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I'm just suggesting that the NNHS and WHO and our own government manipulated the data from the beginning. To cast doubt on a site source as a defense is not an argument. And, it certainly isn't an answer to the question asked.As Trump would say, this is fake news
The NHS traced all those deaths, there are a handful that might be attributed the the vaccine. The other 99.9% had nothing to do with vaccinations.
FWIW the Moderna and the Pfizer mRNA vaccines are reported by multiple reputable sources to not contain any components from any of abortive tissue nor were they used in the development of those vaccines.Two) I have a moral reason that includes the use of "T" cells from aborted babies to generate the original vaccine. My survival will not be made as a result of the sacrifice of an unborn.
I'll have to find it but, there has been a recent court case settled in favor of the Plaintiff who was denied attendance at a Ivy League university. She won on the religious ground of which I spoke. Specific to your point, no distinction was made as to which vaccine was non fetal derived.FWIW the Moderna and the Pfizer mRNA vaccines are reported by multiple reputable sources to not contain any components from any of abortive tissue nor were they used in the development of those vaccines.
When it comes to the COVID-19 vaccines currently approved for emergency use, neither the Pfizer nor Moderna vaccines used fetal cell lines during the development or production phases. (So, no fetal cell lines were used to manufacture the vaccine, and they are not inside the injection you receive from your doctor.)
The Johnson & Johnson vaccine did use fetal cells in the development of their vaccine. It should be noted they are not a component in the vaccine.
And for Catholics, like myself, the Vatican has issued a statement saying that, in absence of an alternative it would be OK to use a vaccine derived from fetal tissue. So only if you can't get the Moderna or Pfizer, then you can get the J&J.
IF and a big if, that was the only reasoning, I would have to concede the argument. I believe I gave others any of which should be sufficient case to deny taking the vaccine. If they are not sufficient, sorry. I still stand on them.The Pfizer and the Moderna are NOT derived from fetal tissue.
“Researchers estimate that 25 deaths in a population of some 12 million children in England gives a broad, overall mortality rate of 2 per million children.”
I don't know how the media gets away with this. :Logic dictates the opposite. After all, the vaccines are here as a result of President Trump. Not Joe Biden.Huh? So it’s not the Pro-Trumpers and Bible thumpers after all. Who knew? Well I did, because I study facts. Posted them earlier in this tread for all to read. But the media and the politicians keep blaming the bitter clingers because it fits their narrative.
CNN had to bury this pretty deep in the story, far past after most people stop reading, but they admit the truth.
While Covid-19 cases in the United States have been rising in almost every state over the past week, a handful have been driving the bulk of the nationwide surge.www.cnn.com
Vaccinations are the strongest tool to fight the virus, he said, but rates are still too low and "with many communities -- particularly communities of color -- at risk for yet another devastating wave of cases, hospitalizations and deaths, masks are the next best tool that officials have in places where vaccination levels remain low despite covid cases rapidly rising."
Some people believe there is a stigma related to the disease. I have several students in a minority community and one of the family had several family members catch Covid. The family shared the information with me but swore me to secrecy for the safety of their child (my student). Apparently the stigma runs pretty deep with some folks. I don't know why. I know several others who had it, recovered, and never really cared about people knowing or not knowing. So maybe it is a cultural or sub-cultural thing?A Republican congressman from Louisiana who has criticized mask mandates and public health restrictions says he and his wife and son are now sick with the coronavirusabcnews.go.com
Go to about 2:30 on the video. I don't get why some people want to remain anonymous when getting the vaccine. This video sounds like another case of...wish I would have.
No Bob but he was scheduled to get the Sinovac vaccine. I think that Dubai was using Sinovac because, at that time, it was all that they could get. Unfortunately, the big lug caught Covid-19 in what was supposed to be one of the safest places in the world at that time. By the time that he finished his 2 weeks quarantine he was not allowed to take a vaccine shot for 3 months and by that time Dubai was administering the Pfizer shots.I believe EastTxFrank's son got the Sinovac while working in the middleast?
Apparently the stigma runs pretty deep
I had to think about that one for a while. I sure don't know either, but if that's what's happening, that sounds like a lose-lose situation to me. You're stigmatized for contracting covid and stigmatized for receiving the vaccine.So maybe it is a cultural or sub-cultural thing?