California Bans single use Propane tanks for camping stoves, heaters, etc

[Melensdad]

I have multiple camp stoves and camp lights that use propane cylinders. They are not my favorites, but they are a lot easier to carry in/carry out than taking in bottles of 'white gas' and certain fuels work better in certain situations. So this hits me near my core as a long time long distance backpacker.

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Newsom Signs Bill Banning Single-use Propane Cylinders for Camping

California Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) signed a bill this week to ban one-pound, single-use propane cylinders, popular with campers.

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Newsom Signs Bill Banning Single-use Propane Cylinders for Camping​

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California Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) signed a bill this week to ban one-pound, single-use propane cylinders, meaning that only more expensive reusable cylinders will be available in the state.​

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The San Francisco Chronicle reported:​

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Disposable propane canisters like the dark green ones used with camping stoves will soon be phased out in California, after Gov. Gavin Newsom signed legislation Sunday requiring all one-pound cylinders sold in the state to be reusable or refillable starting in 2028.​

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Between 4 million and 7 million of the single-use cylinders are sold in California each year, according to an estimate from the California Product Stewardship Council, a nonprofit local government coalition that sponsored the bill.​

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In 2022, Newsom vetoed a near-identical bill, SB 1256. In his veto letter, Newsom raised concerns about prohibiting sales of disposable cylinders “without a plan for collection and refill infrastructure.” The governor also urged the legislature to consider “market-based solutions” over an outright ban.​

Democrats say that negotiations with manufacturers failed, and therefore Newsom decided to ban the cylinders.​

 

[waybomb]

Dicktator Newsom.

 

[bczoom]

The stupidity of that State still baffles me.
My wife and daughter are vacationing in CA right now. I told them I'll never go back.

 

[FrancSevin]

I do not agree with the California ban. This means campers will go back to white gas stoves. Very dangerous for back packing.
That said, I have often lamented that these single use cylinders are not refillable.
They are a problem for the landfills.
So why not a private enterprise solution?

 

[NorthernRedneck]

We use the naphtha 2 burner coleman stoves on camping fuel with the scouts. I have 5 of them out in the garage and 2 in the fifth wheel. Is propane quick and easy compared to naphtha? Yes. But I'll take a good working naphtha stove any day over propane. For a comparison test, take a cast iron pot, fill it with oil and try deep frying fish. The oil just doesn't get hot enough on propane and the fish comes out soggy. Now try the same thing with a naphtha stove. Fish comes out nice and crispy.

 

[Melensdad]

We use the naphtha 2 burner coleman stoves on camping fuel with the scouts. I have 5 of them out in the garage and 2 in the fifth wheel. Is propane quick and easy compared to naphtha? Yes. But I'll take a good working naphtha stove any day over propane. For a comparison test, take a cast iron pot, fill it with oil and try deep frying fish. The oil just doesn't get hot enough on propane and the fish comes out soggy. Now try the same thing with a naphtha stove. Fish comes out nice and crispy.

I think the thing is for backpackers the tiny propane canisters are light, they can easily boil water to rehydrate a freeze dried meal, for backpacking I carry titanium or aluminum pots/plates. Shaving ounces so I am not carrying pounds. Water is the heaviest thing I carry.

 

[XeVfTEUtaAqJHTqq]

I never liked those things but they are convenient. Technically they are refillable but most people are too lazy to do it.

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=propane+canister+refill+adapter

 

[EastTexFrank]

I never liked those things but they are convenient. Technically they are refillable but most people are too lazy to do it.

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=propane+canister+refill+adapter

Yup, I have all the fittings to refill them but have only done it once just to check it out. Put me down as too lazy to refill them.

 

[Melensdad]

Yup, I have all the fittings to refill them but have only done it once just to check it out. Put me down as too lazy to refill them.

Pretty much me too!

But pro-tip, when you do it, put the 1# canister in the refrigerator for an hour and set your 20# tank in the sun.

Then hook them together, you will get a better fill.

 

[bczoom]

Like others, I too have the refill setup. I just wait until I have about 10 empties before I do the refill.
Oh, and turn your 20# tank upside down before you do the transfer.

 

[Cidertom]

I never liked those things but they are convenient. Technically they are refillable but most people are too lazy to do it.

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=propane+canister+refill+adapter

"technically refillable" yes, but current DOT regulations prohibit transportation of them on public roads. They don't have many of the safety features refillable ones have. Also the tire valve is prone to leak. They are not designed for refilling. I think you will see more makers of legal ones such as https://flamekingproducts.com/produ...nable-1lb-refillable-propane-tank-lp-cylinder being manufactured in the near future.

 

[m1west]

Also doing away with plastic bags from the store, the only option going forward is paper or bring your own bag.

 

[Kevlar]

Also doing away with plastic bags from the store, the only option going forward is paper or bring your own bag.

We’ve been like that for a couple years now in Manitoba, it’s not terrible but seems to be hard as hell to remember to take a bag with you when you leave home. The plastic bags were really handy, that’s what I miss the most.

 

[tommu56]

Don't forget the ban on plastic straws now the paper ones are in a plastic sleeve

 

[Cidertom]

. The plastic bags were really handy, that’s what I miss the most.

Same here. now I'm buying plastic bags . After Oregon State University did culture samples on re-usable shopping bags I'm not a fan of those either. So it's paper for me. even though it costs me $0.10 ea.