• Please be sure to read the rules and adhere to them. Some banned members have complained that they are not spammers. But they spammed us. Some even tried to redirect our members to other forums. Duh. Be smart. Read the rules and adhere to them and we will all get along just fine. Cheers. :beer: Link to the rules: https://www.forumsforums.com/threads/forum-rules-info.2974/

BREAKING: ACLJ, Members of Congress File in Court Over Biden’s Massive Tax Overreach

300 H and H

Bronze Member
GOLD Site Supporter


OfficialACLJ


Today on Sekulow, we discuss the breaking announcement that the ACLJ is filing a critical amicus brief in court to challenge President Biden’s power grab to control state taxes. It isn’t just our members we’re filing on behalf of; we’re representing 74 Members of Congress on this brief in federal court to dispute this unconstitutional provision of the latest “COVID relief” bill. We are also joined by ACLJ Senior Advisor for National Security and Foreign Policy Ric Grenell.

F'ing Democraps are trying to kill the power of the States over election laws they want at the Federal level. F@#k them. :furious:
 
Last edited:

300 H and H

Bronze Member
GOLD Site Supporter
Biden administration is trying to stop States from lowering taxes. Red States are the target. If they lower taxes he want to with hold federal funds from those States. Ever heard of such bull sh1t?
 

Roofgardener

Active member
Hmm.. I've read a LITTLE bit about this since making my last post. It seems that this simply means that a state can't use the Covid State Recovery Payments to reduce taxes. This seems fair enough; it means the money must be spent on Covid recovery issues, not put into the general fund ?

Presumably this means that a state CAN reduce tax, but it must be able to demonstrate that it didn't use the Recovery Fund payments to do it ?

 

300 H and H

Bronze Member
GOLD Site Supporter
Presumably this means that a state CAN reduce tax, but it must be able to demonstrate that it didn't use the Recovery Fund payments to do it ?
California is using Covid funds for their general fund. They are using it for all the problems left wing leadership has caused the state for decades.

Dems hate my State cause the pissed away a shit ton of $$$ on a bid to unseat Joni Ernst. Iowa handed the Dems their asses in every way possible except for Cindy Axeny. She has a target on her back.
Hell Pelosi was set to over turn an Iowa election. Iowa has told her to f$#@ off,
 

Roofgardener

Active member
California is using Covid funds for their general fund. They are using it for all the problems left wing leadership has caused the state for decades.

Dems hate my State cause the pissed away a shit ton of $$$ on a bid to unseat Joni Ernst. Iowa handed the Dems their asses in every way possible except for Cindy Axeny. She has a target on her back.
Hell Pelosi was set to over turn an Iowa election. Iowa has told her to f$#@ off,
Well, isn't California - in effect - using the Covid Recovery Fund in exactly the way that Biden intended it ? To help relief its citizens from incompetent governers Covid-19 ?
 

300 H and H

Bronze Member
GOLD Site Supporter
Just ask a small business owner in California.
Just ask all those Californian's who have left the State, or are going to.
When you see the successful people of a State bail out for greener pastures, anyone with common sense should know there is some thing wrong.
Of course this can be said about so many cities and States that have been under Democratic control for a generation or more.
Prove me wrong.....
 

300 H and H

Bronze Member
GOLD Site Supporter
And it is loosing ground daily.
In a few years silicon valley will be all that is left.
Then eventually it will be like Detroit. Ben there lately? LOL don't.. Tesla is about done with the State. Elon is looking for a way out lol....

The tax base California is loosing is getting their attention. I hear they are tracking down those who left and going after them for California taxes.
They claim the money made in California has taxes that must be paid in California.
New Yorker's are fleeing to Florida, and Californian's to Texas, Nevada, and Montana for the more adventurist.
And the locals were they move to don't like them much. They bring their failed politics with them.
 

Roofgardener

Active member
....New Yorker's are fleeing to Florida, and Californian's to Texas, Nevada, and Montana for the more adventurist.
And the locals were they move to don't like them much. They bring their failed politics with them....
That's.. not good. You'd have think they would have learned ?
 

300 H and H

Bronze Member
GOLD Site Supporter
That's.. not good. You'd have think they would have learned ?
The reason there is a Democratic party is they never learn. Communist countries don't seem to learn either.
The best way to live is to live free. To many people around the globe have never experienced that.
They have little to know idea.
 

300 H and H

Bronze Member
GOLD Site Supporter
A few years ago I entertained a couple of young German men on my farm. They had been in the States for a month or so...
We really had fun when I took them out on my shooting range.. We started with rimfire target rifles and worked out way up to shot guns and clay targets. But the real hit was when I brought out an AR 15 and we shot it. Those men deleted other video on their phones so they would have room to record them each firing a 20 round clip as fast as they could... This is what freedom looks like. I carry a side arm every day, because I can. Again this is what freedom looks like...
Freedom means your Government trusts you with such things. It also means they understand we are armed, and we have the right to use this to oust a tyrannical Government. Do you think Democrats trust us to have guns we could use against them? Do you now understand why our capitoal is fenced in with national guard troops surrounding it? For over 200 years of our liberty every Government here has. Do you think we can trust the Democrats? Would you trust a Government that does not trust you?
I can honestly say from what I know about the UK apparently your Government does not trust you at all. But you trust them. This my friend is a fundamental difference between our nations.... I hope you understand and take that red pill.... ;) :):thumbup:
 

Melensdad

Jerk in a Hawaiian Shirt & SNOWCAT Moderator
Staff member
GOLD Site Supporter
Hmm.. I've read a LITTLE bit about this since making my last post. It seems that this simply means that a state can't use the Covid State Recovery Payments to reduce taxes. This seems fair enough; it means the money must be spent on Covid recovery issues, not put into the general fund ?

Presumably this means that a state CAN reduce tax, but it must be able to demonstrate that it didn't use the Recovery Fund payments to do it ?

The way they are portraying it in some of our media is that it prevents the individual states from choosing their own tax paths. More than simply lowering taxes by using "recovery payments" it seems to extend beyond that.

The problem is that if a state has a surplus (like mine) and then the state also gets some of its tax dollars returned to it in the form of a grant via the "recovery payments" the state cannot lower any of its taxes. It prevents states with stronger fiscal balance sheets from helping the actual taxpayers who actually contributed to that state's budget surplus.
 

Melensdad

Jerk in a Hawaiian Shirt & SNOWCAT Moderator
Staff member
GOLD Site Supporter
Actually, most of Europe 'lives free'... well, reasonably free, anyway (though we're not allowed to have guns).
HAHAHAHAhahaha

My cousin in Germany would disagee.

My sister in the suburbs of London is constantly bitching about the regulations.

My friend in Wales got in trouble for putting in a 3' (1 meter) diameter plastic lily pond in her back garden without the approval of her council.

My friends in Hereford tell me horror stories about how the town clamps down on all sorts of things.

I would guess that you have what you believe to be some freedoms but until you see real freedom you don't realize what you are missing. Sort of like healthcare. My English friends love their NHS free services but some of them then pay for private insurance to jump the long queue waiting lists. Others grumble about how many simple things are not treated in a timely manner simply because it can take months to get into see a specialist. Here in the US we pay for our insurance if we can afford it, if we can't we have ObummerCare, which nobody likes, but it's costs are subsidies for lower income folks. But we get into specialists in 6 to 48 hours.
 

Roofgardener

Active member
A few years ago I entertained a couple of young German men on my farm. They had been in the States for a month or so...
We really had fun when I took them out on my shooting range.. We started with rimfire target rifles and worked out way up to shot guns and clay targets. But the real hit was when I brought out an AR 15 and we shot it. Those men deleted other video on their phones so they would have room to record them each firing a 20 round clip as fast as they could... This is what freedom looks like. I carry a side arm every day, because I can. Again this is what freedom looks like...
Freedom means your Government trusts you with such things. It also means they understand we are armed, and we have the right to use this to oust a tyrannical Government. Do you think Democrats trust us to have guns we could use against them? Do you now understand why our capitoal is fenced in with national guard troops surrounding it? For over 200 years of our liberty every Government here has. Do you think we can trust the Democrats? Would you trust a Government that does not trust you?
I can honestly say from what I know about the UK apparently your Government does not trust you at all. But you trust them. This my friend is a fundamental difference between our nations.... I hope you understand and take that red pill.... ;) :):thumbup:
Hmmm.. well.. at least our policemen don't go around shooting (and killing) suspects on a daily basis ?
 

Roofgardener

Active member
HAHAHAHAhahaha

My cousin in Germany would disagee.

My sister in the suburbs of London is constantly bitching about the regulations.

My friend in Wales got in trouble for putting in a 3' (1 meter) diameter plastic lily pond in her back garden without the approval of her council.

My friends in Hereford tell me horror stories about how the town clamps down on all sorts of things.

I would guess that you have what you believe to be some freedoms but until you see real freedom you don't realize what you are missing. Sort of like healthcare. My English friends love their NHS free services but some of them then pay for private insurance to jump the long queue waiting lists. Others grumble about how many simple things are not treated in a timely manner simply because it can take months to get into see a specialist. Here in the US we pay for our insurance if we can afford it, if we can't we have ObummerCare, which nobody likes, but it's costs are subsidies for lower income folks. But we get into specialists in 6 to 48 hours.
Well, I've lived here - in different parts of the country - for 55 years, and I've NEVER heard of councils quibbling over garden ornaments. As for the NHS; I've only occasionally had to use it, and I had no problems ?
 

Melensdad

Jerk in a Hawaiian Shirt & SNOWCAT Moderator
Staff member
GOLD Site Supporter
Well, I've lived here - in different parts of the country - for 55 years, and I've NEVER heard of councils quibbling over garden ornaments. As for the NHS; I've only occasionally had to use it, and I had no problems ?
Lucky you. Doesn’t mean your experiences are common.
 

Roofgardener

Active member
Neither do ours. If you look at actual data. But if you believe the news sources then there is also a bridge in London I’d like to sell you.
There where over 1000 fatal police shootings in 2019. That's around 3 per day ?
 

300 H and H

Bronze Member
GOLD Site Supporter
There where over 1000 fatal police shootings in 2019. That's around 3 per day ?
You live in a nation that is not even as big as most States here. Our population is many times larger than yours.
You point is moot. Statistically like the big media here, you are trying with numbers to make this situation look worse than it is.
Numbers do not lie, but liars love numbers.
The web site your pulling these numbers from is questionable as well.
Some people are weak minded and very gullible.
Some are not.
 

Melensdad

Jerk in a Hawaiian Shirt & SNOWCAT Moderator
Staff member
GOLD Site Supporter
Top