1957 tucker snow kitten

sledhead Ed

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Pontoons all apart and greased all cleaned out. Little bit of welding and straighten. Can these be converted to adjustable style?
 

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DAVENET

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Maybe? Sno-drifter & Glacierparkbus would have the definitive answer, but since you can get inside I would guess yes. Blackfin has several of the adjusters for the 442 pontoons. They would have to be reshaped, but it may be possible to make them work?
 

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You would have to do all the fabrication yourself as I do not think the factory made adjustable tracks an option for Kittens. That said, they could have done it for a customer who requested them. The reality of doing the modification is that it will be far easier to do than on a normal steel Tucker pontoon because of the access to the inside of the pontoon to install the four cap screws per side that need to have their heads on the inside. I would make up a 1/8 plate that the four fasteners are tack weld to and tack it to the inside to prevent cracks from metal fatigue. Be sure to put the adjustable end on the end of the pontoon (front) that does not have the drive sprocket. Good luck with it, and I am sure all the Kitten owners will watch your progress with great interest.
 

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I have some adjusters close by if you want to see if they will fit. Put up some pics of the front and back pontoons from the side.
 

DAVENET

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Ed's is the white one. Shape is totally different, but should be able to re-bend to work. As Scott mentioned, having access to the interior is key for putting in the anchor studs and adjuster nut. Inner & outer adjusters (two each) would be needed to attempt it. You would also have to watch for the spring mounts.
 

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DAVENET

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Thinking about this further, if the 442 adjusters are reshaped, the adjuster 'guides' would no longer be horizontal to allow adjustment. But, if the front part of the existing rail was CAREFULLY cut free w/ a plasma cutter, adjusting tabs similar to the 442 could be welded on to allow for adjustment.

It is not a straight cut- it's almost a stretched 's' so the rollers are always making contact as they go around.
 

sno-drifter

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Here you go. The adjustable nose from a 400 machine has a very close fit and would need to be section at the top and bottom of the nose due to the 180 degree radius of a Kitten. The other issue is you will have a hard time finding a 3/4" nose as I don't think they were ever mass produced. And I would not suggest going to one inch rails- mucho problems there.
 

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sledhead Ed

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Thanks for the pictures. Also the kitten pontoons aren't recessed where the adjusters sit to stay inline for the wheels. At least that's what it looks like from looking at pictures of older Tuckers with pontoons.
 

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Looks like some fab to make that work. Make a bending tool and adjust old school!

You would need rails around the whole pontoon or you will have a speed bump.
 

DAVENET

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Thanks for the pictures. Also the kitten pontoons aren't recessed where the adjusters sit to stay inline for the wheels. At least that's what it looks like from looking at pictures of older Tuckers with pontoons.

The 400 series pontoons don't have a recessed area either. The rail that the rollers ride on are one piece on your kitten. On the 4 series, that rail is cut in the front and rear (in effect four pieces; top, bottom, front, back). If you look closely in the picture above, the mounting plate (where fingertips are) is at the very edge of the rail. The existing rail on your pontoons would need to be cut out so the adjuster rail above would have a place to 'recess' or mount flush. But it's not a straight or angle cut. If Blackfin has one nearby, he can click a pic of the top looking down. That will clarify how it works on the 4 series and make much more sense.

David
 

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Here is the alternative that GYPSY is referring to.
 

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sledhead Ed

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Thanks everyone for the pictures and help. Gypsy I tried searching last night and this morning for thread and picture of #22 post, but couldn't find it. So if you could post a picture that would be awesome. My frame is bent up front on right side where the springs sit from a track being thrown at one time So I'm going to straighten it and replace a bunch of links because they been bent down to more of a u shape to take up slack. So I'ld like to be able to have an adjuster and able to bend links if I have too. I'm lucky my biggest damage on my pontoons are are brake shoes and brake bands and drums where the rivets from brake band ground into them. Very little welding and straightening . Only major thing on the kitten is the frame and is could be acceptible if the kitten was in tough shape. Overall this unit is in great shape especially for the age. The frame is bent up about an 1/2-3/4". Here's a picture of frame damage. It's a little hard to see
 

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sledhead Ed

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Blackfin4 bluefin that would be great. If I have to do the running around to save you the time and make it easier it's no problem at all. Thanks for the help.
 

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I need to check my archives as well. He brought it to my house once and I traced it out but where did i put it?? Send him an email. Stay tuned....
 
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