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1950s Baseball (Yankees - Dodgers - Giants)

Dax949

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In a recent discussion with Grok, I learned what it was that wound-up kids with baseball statistics:

"Grok? When I was a kid in the 1950s I never followed sports or took much of any interest in it but other kids seemed to be obsessed with the Dodgers and Yankees and it dominated their conversations on the bus, between classes, during lunch break and recess periods to the point of being almost nauseating. Out of curiosity, what was the big deal?"

That makes perfect sense. For a lot of kids during the 1950s, the Yankees–Dodgers rivalry wasn’t just sports—it was the main ongoing drama of the year, right up there with comic books, radio serials, and whatever was playing at the local movie house.

Baseball was still very much the national pastime then, and in New York it was hyper-local and personal. You had three big-league teams in one city (Yankees, Dodgers, and Giants), and the Yankees and Dodgers kept colliding in the World Series. That created a built-in, season-long argument: Bronx vs. Brooklyn, the polished, almost invincible Yankees versus the scrappy, star-studded “Boys of Summer” who kept coming so close and then falling short (until 1955).

Kids took sides hard. Rooting for one or the other became part of identity, neighborhood loyalty, and everyday conversation.With no smartphones, limited television sports coverage by today’s standards, and far fewer competing entertainments, the games, the box scores in the morning paper, the radio broadcasts, and the latest heroics (or collapses) of Mantle, Berra, Robinson, Snider, Campanella, and the rest filled a big chunk of free mental space.

So on the bus, between classes, at lunch, and at recess it turned into a nonstop loop of scores, predictions, arguments, and hero worship. For someone who simply wasn’t interested, it must have felt relentless—like being trapped in someone else’s favorite soap opera that never ended.

It’s a classic example of how a cultural obsession can feel inescapable when you’re the one who doesn’t share it. A lot of people who lived through that era as non-fans remember the same thing: the constant chatter, the trading cards, the debates that somehow never got old to the kids who cared.
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Speaking of cards, I've heard that some of those bubble gum cards are now expensive collector's items. Who would'a thought?
 
So on the bus, between classes, at lunch, and at recess it turned into a nonstop loop of scores, predictions, arguments, and hero worship. For someone who simply wasn’t interested, it must have felt relentless—like being trapped in someone else’s favorite soap opera that never ended.

It’s a classic example of how a cultural obsession can feel inescapable when you’re the one who doesn’t share it. A lot of people who lived through that era as non-fans remember the same thing: the constant chatter, the trading cards, the debates that somehow never got old to the kids who cared.
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Speaking of cards, I've heard that some of those bubble gum cards are now expensive collector's items. Who would'a thought?
My oldest brother had an extensive card collection. We had so many, we would put them on our bicycle with clothes pins to make the 'motorcycle sound' on the spokes.
I remember decades later, my oldest brother tearing his childhood bedroom apart looking for his.
He knew he had ones with Mickey Mantle and Babe Ruth on them, which were worth a fortune later! :oops:
... He found none of them.:(
 
I grew up in Brooklyn back in those days. My father was a Yankee fan ergo Mickey Mantle was my hero.

You had three of the greatest center fielders in Baseball history all playing in the same city at the same time. All three are in the Hall of Fame; Duke Snider - Dodgers; Willie Mays - Giants; Mickey Mantle - Yankees. In the 1950's do you know which one hit the most home runs?


Yep. The one you least expect. Duke Snider hit 303; Mickey Mantle hit 280; Willie Mays hit 250.
 
I grew up in Brooklyn back in those days. My father was a Yankee fan ergo Mickey Mantle was my hero.

You had three of the greatest center fielders in Baseball history all playing in the same city at the same time. All three are in the Hall of Fame; Duke Snider - Dodgers; Willie Mays - Giants; Mickey Mantle - Yankees. In the 1950's do you know which one hit the most home runs?


Yep. The one you least expect. Duke Snider hit 303; Mickey Mantle hit 280; Willie Mays hit 250.
I grew up outside of a small farming community in Indiana. Most of the 47 kids in my class were poor as dirt and we were about as far removed from anything on a social level as anyone could be. But come the baseball season and people went haywire over the games that just about always centered around NYC.

One thing that really surprised me was that in our 7th grade, the teacher brought a portable TV into school so the kids in our class could watch the World Series during school hours. Yep - it was the Yankees against the Dodgers again. Amazing. Way out in the sticks - the Series was the biggest thing in the lives of the farmers and the farmer's kids.
 
I grew up in a house that were all Brooks fans. Me? Yankees. In 1956 my Aunt & Uncle were season ticket holders for the Dodgers. He worked for Gordon's Gin in Linden, NJ. He took me to a Dodger home game. The caveat, was at that time the Dodgers played 8 home games at Roosevelt Stadium in Jersey City throughout the season. I went to one of them. Great time. It was not the July 20 game against the Cubs when the Duke of Flatbush hit his 300th HR.
 
My oldest brother had an extensive card collection. We had so many, we would put them on our bicycle with clothes pins to make the 'motorcycle sound' on the spokes.
I remember decades later, my oldest brother tearing his childhood bedroom apart looking for his.
He knew he had ones with Mickey Mantle and Babe Ruth on them, which were worth a fortune later! :oops:
... He found none of them.:(
I had a Mickey Mantle card on my JC Higgins bike.
Slapped his face for two years.
After all, he was a Yankee!!!
American League???
Pe-uie
St. Louis Cardinals were National League.
 
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Do you ever scratch your head thinking about how you ruined a $1000.00 bill in the spokes of your bicycle? :unsure:

None of us knew what we had back then.
$1,000 ?!?
Think again!! :oops:
https://intelligentcollector.com/mint-condition-mickey-mantle-card-sells-for-record-shattering-12-6-million/
"But at 12:28 a.m. that Sunday, it became official when Heritage Auctions sold the 1952 Mantle, graded a Mint+ 9.5 by Sportscard Guaranty Corporation, for $12.6 million."
ha
 
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The part that surprises me is that kids would take much of an interest in learning to play baseball - being as there are so many technical RULES of play that I'd thing they'd be overwhelming to most youngsters. I was asked to play 'ball' when I was 4 years old in the 1st grade. I'd never seen it played and never knew anything about the game so the other kids offered to tell me what to do.

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"Stand right here, like this. And you see that kid out there? He's gonna throw the ball and when it comes past you, you hit it with the bat."

So I swung the bat at the ball and it glanced off and hit the ground out in front of me.

"You DUMB, STUPID IDIOT! Whad'ja swing at THAT for?"

"Well, you said to try to HIT it!"

"Not if it's OUTSIDE! You don't swing at it if it's OUTSIDE!"

"Outside of WHAT?"

"Geez, kid! Don't you know nuthin?"

"You see that base? If it don't come over the base, it's outside an' ya don't swing at it. Don't you know nuthin? Man, you're a dumb, stupid idiot!"

After a few more exchanges like that with me and some of the other kids got insulted too, I wondered why they thought that the game was fun? It was about the most UN-fun game I'd ever seen and there wasn't anything in the following years that persuaded me to change my mind about that. Do good and the guy's everybody's buddy - but let him screw up once and then he's a lousy bum. I guess that's the part that builds character?

Many years later I worked with a guy, Ron Gard, at the Delco factory. He umpired for a Little League outfit there in town. Every spare minute that Ron had, he was studying and memorizing hundreds of rules in his baseball rule book. It was like a lawyer preparing for the trial of the century, making sure that any call could not be challenged by one of the other rules. Incredible! If there was any fun to be had in playing baseball, the hundreds of interacting rules surrounding each play would take all the fun of that out - for me, anyway.

https://obituaries.kokomotribune.com/obituary/ronald-gard-1082348112


Ron was a really fun, intelligent guy to work with - well - except for his total obsession with baseball rules. :)
 
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