As for the flu we take 1,000mg of vitamin C daily year round and seldom ever get it. Also we have never used hand sanitizers or any of that sort which my theory on it is that it helps keep our immune systems strong. It probably also helps that we live in a small town which to most others in the country is isolated.
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Corona Virus spreading ... US official says no need to worry
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Approximately 2.7% of the US population qualifies for the 3rd dose of a vaccine.
Cancer patients, organ transplant patients, some Rheumatoid Arthritis/Crones/etc patients (depends upon the drugs used to control the RA), and some other unnamed conditions. No specific guidelines seem to have been released yet. There are more meetings scheduled to release specific information to doctors, so I'd expect to hear more sometime mid-late next week.
There are several articles, here is just part of one of them. Follow the link for the full article. None seem to provide a comprehensive list of who would qualify or which drug therapies make you more immunosuppressed. https://www.reuters.com/world/middl...mDeYITUrTxgJkhzoP1vPS9YdIXMoLeORP-eLJmlhRTi-0
Cancer patients, organ transplant patients, some Rheumatoid Arthritis/Crones/etc patients (depends upon the drugs used to control the RA), and some other unnamed conditions. No specific guidelines seem to have been released yet. There are more meetings scheduled to release specific information to doctors, so I'd expect to hear more sometime mid-late next week.
There are several articles, here is just part of one of them. Follow the link for the full article. None seem to provide a comprehensive list of who would qualify or which drug therapies make you more immunosuppressed. https://www.reuters.com/world/middl...mDeYITUrTxgJkhzoP1vPS9YdIXMoLeORP-eLJmlhRTi-0
U.S. FDA authorizes COVID-19 vaccine boosters for the immunocompromised
Aug 13 (Reuters) - The U.S. Food and Drug Administration authorized a third dose of COVID-19 vaccines from Pfizer Inc (PFE.N) and Moderna Inc (MRNA.O) for people with compromised immune systems.
The amended emergency use authorization paves the way for people who have had an organ transplant, or those with a similar level of weakened immune system, to get an extra dose.
"After a thorough review of the available data, the FDA determined that this small, vulnerable group may benefit from a third dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna vaccines," Janet Woodcock, U.S. FDA's acting commissioner, said in a tweet on Thursday.
"Others who are fully vaccinated are adequately protected & do not need an additional dose of COVID-19 vaccine at this time."
The vulnerable group of patients make up less than 3% of U.S. adults, Rochelle Walensky, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), had said before the authorization.
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Public gatherings are bad.
Unless you are a member of the political elite?
Uh.
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Unless you are a member of the political elite?
Uh.
Martha's Vineyard Hit with Coronavirus Spike After Obama Party
The island of Martha's Vineyard experienced a spike in coronavirus cases this week after President Barack Obama's 60th birthday party.
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Obama Variant: Martha’s Vineyard Hit with Coronavirus Spike After Superspreader Birthday Party
Charlie Spiering13 Aug 2021
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The island of Martha’s Vineyard experienced a spike in coronavirus cases this week after President Barack Obama’s 60th birthday party last Saturday.
The Daily Mail reports that 63 people on Martha’s Vineyard have tested positive for the virus — the highest number of cases in a week on the island since April.
Hundreds of people attended the former President’s 60th birthday party at the Obama mansion on Martha’s Vineyard, including a swarm of A-list celebrities. The guest list included Beyoncé, Jay-Z, Tom Hanks, H.E.R., John Legend, and Alicia Keys.
Photos of the party showed many of the guests without masks, mingling, drinking, and dancing in close quarters.
The Tisbury boards of health spokesperson Maura Valley told the Daily Mail it was “a little too early” to know whether the boost in cases was a direct result of Obama’s birthday party, but cases continue to rise following the event.
Prior to the party, Obama and his staff tried to claim the event would be “scaled back” with just close family and friends as a result of the spread of the Delta variant of the coronavirus, but it was still a big party, with 300-400 people attending.
The Daily Mail also reported that six staffers tested positive at the Harbor view Hotel, where some of the celebrities attending the party stayed.
And here we go again in Texas:
www.texastribune.org
""This surge is by far the fastest and most aggressive that we've seen," said the health authority for Austin and Travis County, who urged eligible Texans to get vaccinated."
"Dozens of Texas hospitals have run out of intensive care unit beds as COVID-19 surges faster than any other time during the pandemic, propelled by the new delta variant."
"At least 53 Texas hospitals have no available ICU capacity, according to numbers reported to the federal government during the week ending Aug. 5."
Texas hospitals running out of ICU beds as COVID-19 cases overwhelm them
"This surge is by far the fastest and most aggressive that we've seen," said the health authority for Austin and Travis County, who urged eligible Texans to get vaccinated.
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""This surge is by far the fastest and most aggressive that we've seen," said the health authority for Austin and Travis County, who urged eligible Texans to get vaccinated."
"Dozens of Texas hospitals have run out of intensive care unit beds as COVID-19 surges faster than any other time during the pandemic, propelled by the new delta variant."
"At least 53 Texas hospitals have no available ICU capacity, according to numbers reported to the federal government during the week ending Aug. 5."
Not just Texas. But the federal governments release of Covid + illegals is certainly hurting Texas. Now Laredo cut a deal to pass the Covid + illegals to the major cities, which increases the spread of this variant.And here we go again in Texas:
Texas hospitals running out of ICU beds as COVID-19 cases overwhelm them
"This surge is by far the fastest and most aggressive that we've seen," said the health authority for Austin and Travis County, who urged eligible Texans to get vaccinated.
""This surge is by far the fastest and most aggressive that we've seen," said the health authority for Austin and Travis County, who urged eligible Texans to get vaccinated."
"Dozens of Texas hospitals have run out of intensive care unit beds as COVID-19 surges faster than any other time during the pandemic, propelled by the new delta variant."
"At least 53 Texas hospitals have no available ICU capacity, according to numbers reported to the federal government during the week ending Aug. 5."
We know the media is UNDERreporting the breakthrough cases of Covid in fully vaccinated people. Fortunately fully vaxxed people are still pretty well protected against Delta even if they test positive. Only a tiny fraction of vaxxed people end up seriously ill. Unvaccinated people have a bit more to worry about because, while Delta/Indian variant is no more deadly, it is infecting a lot of people and therefore we are seeing hospital cases climbing rapidly in some areas.
Delta seems to infect 70-ish percent of the people who come into close contact with it. Regular Covid transmission is far lower, roughly 20%. Just for reference Chicken Pox is roughly 90%. Seasonal flu varies but 10-20% is reasonable.
As I understand it the hospitals are out of "ICU beds" because they don't have the staff for those beds. Not due to capacity or facility availability.
Words have meaning and they are easily manipulated to promote a narrative.
Words have meaning and they are easily manipulated to promote a narrative.
Locally, I don't find that to be true from my insiders in the hospital system.
That may be true in other areas? Honestly I don't know. I would love to see the data.
Yes, and I think that is the major problem in Texas and probably some of the other southern states that are experiencing this same problem.
That may well be part of the problem, but, from what I've read, I still think a big part of the problem is facility capacity. Once again, they're looking around their facilities and thinking about where they can add some beds. From what I understand, some of the drugs to treat covid patients are in low supply.
Lots of stores, not much actual information. All basically say the same thing.
BOOSTER shots for Covid will be recommended for EVERYONE.
Originally news stores were out saying the shots would be for about 3% of the population that is seriously immunocompromised. As of last evening sources, all traced back to a single Associated Press story, are saying that the FDA/CDC will be authorizing booster shots for anyone who has been double vaccinated.
The timing of the Booster shot is reported to be 8 months after the person's 2nd shot. I received my 2nd shot in February, so if the story is accurate, I will have the option of taking shot 3 during October.
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BOOSTER shots for Covid will be recommended for EVERYONE.
Originally news stores were out saying the shots would be for about 3% of the population that is seriously immunocompromised. As of last evening sources, all traced back to a single Associated Press story, are saying that the FDA/CDC will be authorizing booster shots for anyone who has been double vaccinated.
The timing of the Booster shot is reported to be 8 months after the person's 2nd shot. I received my 2nd shot in February, so if the story is accurate, I will have the option of taking shot 3 during October.
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Correct the record: outlets walk back heightened Covid-19 death figures in Texas
The Delta variant is surging in Texas, but not to the degree that some outlets are reporting
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Correct the record: outlets walk back heightened Covid-19 death figures in Texas
The Delta variant is surging in Texas, but not to the degree that some outlets are reporting
A story claiming that the Covid-19 death rate in Texas hit a high not seen since March 2020 has been corrected.
Axios had claimed that the Lone Star state's "seven-day coronavirus death rate reaches its highest levels since March 2020," a claim that was walked back on Monday. . .
The Delta variant is currently surging in American southern states, including Texas. But, this is at least the second time in recent days that an outlet has been forced to correct false information presented about pandemic figures in Texas.
A significant error was published in the Texas Tribune last week, claiming that more than 5,800 children in the state were hospitalized during a single week of August. The piece was later corrected and now reads, "That number correctly referred to children hospitalized with COVID-19 since the pandemic began. In actuality, 783 children were admitted to Texas hospitals with COVID-19 between July 1 and Aug. 9 of this year." . . .
I heard that on a Fox News podcast, but they quickly back tracked and said only the immune compromised people.
That's a pretty darn big mistake. I'm not sure if it was just truly a mistake made by some rookie reporter, or if was a scare tactic used to encourage people to get the vaccine. Either way, I don't like huge mistakes in reporting nor do I like scare tactics.
Earlier in the disease cycle there were serious problems with the testing. The higher the cycle count on the test the more sensitive it is, and some of the testing was done at very very high cycle counting which was giving a lot of false positives. The testing procedures have been standardized for at least 6+ months and accuracy is far better.
This time it is personal. We lost a good employee to Covid-19. Not the disease but the damn shot.
Under pressure from friends and family, she got the Moderna version. Two weeks later she suffered a stroke from a blood clot in her brain.
Paralyzed on the right side. A scan indicated she had more than one and so she is now on blood thinners.
She is also in daily physical therapy.
The woman is about 45 years old, in excellent health with no underlying issues. A working mom with several kids to raise, and one of our best operators. Not only can she now not run a machine, they took away her drivers license.
Blood clots are one of the side effects of the Disease. They are also known effects of the vaccine. But it is unlikely you will see that in the news reports. Or from the government who insists we all get a shot or we cannot work, associated freely, or travel by air.
Think carefully before you swallow the Kool-aid. It should be a choice of what you are willing to risk.
Under pressure from friends and family, she got the Moderna version. Two weeks later she suffered a stroke from a blood clot in her brain.
Paralyzed on the right side. A scan indicated she had more than one and so she is now on blood thinners.
She is also in daily physical therapy.
The woman is about 45 years old, in excellent health with no underlying issues. A working mom with several kids to raise, and one of our best operators. Not only can she now not run a machine, they took away her drivers license.
Blood clots are one of the side effects of the Disease. They are also known effects of the vaccine. But it is unlikely you will see that in the news reports. Or from the government who insists we all get a shot or we cannot work, associated freely, or travel by air.
Think carefully before you swallow the Kool-aid. It should be a choice of what you are willing to risk.
Got the CORONA. When I was at the cabin last week with one son, the other one came over Friday, and started feeling ill, he left at that point but when he went to work the next morning feeling poorly ( sheriffs office ) he took a test then went home. The wife by Sunday was feeling it and me by Monday. The wife went and got tested yesterday as a formality, she gets the results tomorrow. Last night I had a headache and chills with no temperature. This morning I felt poorly but took some ibuprofen and now don't feel too bad. The wife has a cough and some phlegm with a low grade fever. Still able to do chores and play with the Caterpillar.
Note that it says "with COVID-19", not DUE TO Covid-19.
They still play with numbers to fit the narrative.
The website reporting it is a right wing website. They often refer to it as the China Virus too. So my guess is that it is just the bias of the website in how they worded the article.
That's a horrible situation for that woman to have to endure.
I wish you and your family well too.
Edit to add for m1west: I recall Doc posting what I thought was some really good info from a respiratory therapist when he had a family member contract covid. I can't find it right now, but maybe somebody else can. It might help your family some.
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So far so good, lots of liquids and some ibuprofen. Feels like I have a fever at times, but when checked I don't have a fever. Little bit of a plugged head.
Hopefully it just remains a mild case. Statistically that is what should happen.
Remember, fatality rate is TINY. Hospitalization rate is also reasonably low. Most people who have any complications from the disease have other issues. Typically 2 or more other issues like obesity, hypertension, pulmonary issues, diabetes, compromised immune system, advanced age, etc. Covid poses serious risks to people who have the above issues but almost insignificant risks to normally healthy individuals.
Honestly, unless I have a relapse tonight, I think I am getting a lot better, the worse symptom so far is last night and this morning I had chills and a headache, without a fever. Coffee and ibuprofen and I'm good to go. I think tomorrow I will work on the Cat. The wife I think got it a little worse, she got the symptoms I just described with chest congestion, we are keeping an eye on that. Typhoid Tyler that gave it to us has mild symptoms also.
I've a good friend whose sister just posted this on Facebook.
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Sadly so many people don't see how misleading this is.I've a good friend whose sister just posted this on Facebook.
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Yes, vaccinated can still get Covid. But data shows they get it at a far lower rate, by a high order of magnitude lower.
Yes, vaccinated can still die from Covid. But again, at a monumentally lower rate.
I don't believe in vaccine mandates or telling others they need a vaccine.
But we need to honest about the data. And the data is evolving. What was true about the original Covid was not necessarily true about the Alpha variant. What was true about the Alpha variant is not necessarily true about the Delta variant.
U.S. Sens. King, Wicker and Hickenlooper test positive for COVID-19
King said he was tested a day after he began feeling ill, his office announced. Wicker is in isolation, his spokesperson said Thursday.
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WASHINGTON (AP) — Three senators said Thursday they have tested positive for COVID-19 despite being vaccinated, a high-profile collection of breakthrough cases that comes as the highly infectious delta variant spreads rapidly across the United States.
Why COVID-19 Is Here to Stay, and Why You Shouldn’t Worry About It
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Why COVID-19 Is Here to Stay, and Why You Shouldn’t Worry About It
The pandemic is on its way out, but SARS-CoV-2 is here to stay. Here is why it's not a problem.
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Most people don't actually read the pertinent parts of long articles.Why COVID-19 Is Here to Stay, and Why You Shouldn’t Worry About It
Why COVID-19 Is Here to Stay, and Why You Shouldn’t Worry About It
The pandemic is on its way out, but SARS-CoV-2 is here to stay. Here is why it's not a problem.
As most of the folks on this forum are 50+ years old, and many 2 decades older than 50, I'd cite this quotation from your article:
Elderly people will be the exception because their immune system is compromised, so for them it will make sense to get a vaccine booster on a regular basis and I expect that it’s what most of them will do, as they already do against the flu. Once it has become endemic, which again will take a few years or even decades for the transition to be fully over, SARS-CoV-2 will become just another respiratory virus and will never cause the damages it has just wrought on us again.
I think the important point in the article is that this is no longer a "pandemic" - it is an "endemic" and we have to learn to live with it. Which may include routine vaccines (just like the flu) is you are an old timer.
I guess I thought most people already realized that it is in the process of changing from pandemic to seasonal endemic, even if the media is still calling it a pandemic. But that is essentially the point highlighted by the excerpt that I posted above. Annual boosters for everyone as this transitions.
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My sister & brother-in-law now have covid. Both are healthy, early/mid-50's and neither have any risk factors. Generally mild symptoms. Sister tested positive 7 days ago, her husband 5 days ago. They are generally following the FLCCC covid protocol, temperature and O2 checks daily to try to catch a problem before it turns into an issue. Doing the iodine gargle a couple times a day too. And of course they have been taking vitamin D.