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Corona Virus spreading ... US official says no need to worry

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And now Moderna will have a booster. Not unexpected.

FULL STORY AT LINK: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-vaccine-booster-shots-moderna/#app


Moderna plans to have third vaccine booster shot ready by fall​

April 18, 2021 / 8:38 AM
By Megan Cerullo
COVID-19 vaccine maker Moderna will make a third booster shot for its two-dose vaccine available to Americans by the fall, CEO Stéphane Bancel said this week.

Moderna's vaccine is more than 90% effective against the coronavirus six months after the second shot, studies show. What remains unclear is how long immunity from the virus lasts.

The same is true of Pfizer's two-dose COVID-19 vaccine.
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A third booster shot against the virus is not yet required, but health experts say it could provide additional immunity against COVID-19 variants that are beginning to spread to the U.S. from Brazil, South Africa and the United Kingdom.....
 

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The UK are just starting a study of a thousand (?) students who have received their two vaccinations. They are going to be deliberately exposed to COVID-19 again, including the Brazilian and South African strains, to see how well the vaccines work. :)

Apparantly they are liberal arts students, so no matter how it goes, it's a win-win situation :D
 

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This 2nd shot gives you enough immunity to greatly reduce risk of even getting the virus at all. Give it a couple weeks build the immunity in your system. Let's all go out and enjoy life again.
That's sure what I'm hoping. I had my second vaccine Monday, felt puny Tuesday for a little while, slept for 10 hours last night, and feeling pretty good today.
 

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One year after the Indianapolis 500 was held without a single fan in attendance for the first time ever, the Indianapolis Motor Speedway plans to host up to 135,000 fans for the May 30 Indianapolis 500, or 40% of the track's unofficial capacity, Penske Entertainment Corp. officials announced Wednesday. That number of fans, as well as the track's health and safety plan, have been approved by the Marion County Public Health Department.

At that capacity limit, race day at IMS stands to be the highest-attended sporting event in the U.S., and potentially the largest enclosed gathering of people, since the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic early last year.
 

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Just wanted to post this graphic.

Notice the AGE GROUPS that are reluctant to get the Covid vaccine.

The media tends to report on the POLITICAL DIVIDE between the people who get the vaccine and those who don't but there seems to be a lot more to the story than politics as younger people tend to be far more liberal than older people and also tend to be more afraid of the side effects of the vaccine than they are of the covid-19. Even the age group 40-49 is pretty close to evenly divided on the risks but that is the first group to rate the disease as more of a risk than the vaccine.

It should be noted that the US has just surpassed 50% vaccination rate (1 dose) for adults. The FULLY (2 dose) vaccinated rate and has just hit 25% of the adult population.

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One other think I want to point out is that Chile has a very high vaccination rate, higher than the USA. They also have a high rate of covid infections occurring in VACCINATED people. Chile used the SinoVac vaccine, which was developed in China, has a claimed efficacy rate of approximately 50%, their test data has not been subjected to peer review, and most media sources are NOT pointing out the facts about the nation's choice of vaccine. So much of the news reported about the South American nation seems to be scare tactics. I see it used to scare people into getting vaccinations. I also see it used by anti-Vax sources to prove that vaccines don't work. Don't buy either story. Just understand that the SinoVac Vaccine is NOT used by any modern Western civilized nation for a very good reason!
 

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Just understand that the SinoVac Vaccine is NOT used by any modern Western civilized nation for a very good reason!

My son caught COVID while working in Dubai. It was a relatively mild case. He did his 14-day isolation and is just fine. He can't take a vaccine shot until 3-months after his recovery date but that suits him just fine as they are using the SinoVac vaccine at present. By the time that he is eligible to take the shot they will have switched 100% to the Pfizer vaccine. From all that I have heard and read about the SinoVac vaccine I'm not sure that I would be in a rush to take that stuff myself.
 

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Just understand that the SinoVac Vaccine is NOT used by any modern Western civilized nation for a very good reason!

My son caught COVID while working in Dubai. It was a relatively mild case. He did his 14-day isolation and is just fine. He can't take a vaccine shot until 3-months after his recovery date but that suits him just fine as they are using the SinoVac vaccine at present. By the time that he is eligible to take the shot they will have switched 100% to the Pfizer vaccine. From all that I have heard and read about the SinoVac vaccine I'm not sure that I would be in a rush to take that stuff myself.
I think I'd do a slow walk to try to avoid that vaccine.

From what I can tell the Sputnik V from Russia looks to be very good. In fact it might be better than either of the J&J or the AstraZenica vaccines. At least I see no blood clotting reports from the Sputnik V vaccine.
 

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Both the Indiana House & Senate passed a Bill banning so called vaccine passports. It does not stop private businesses from requiring proof of health but bans any government entity from requiring or issuing such a thing.

Several state governors have issued similar orders, but those can be overturned by legislative action or reversed by a future governor. Legislative actions like today’s actions in Indiana are more difficult to overturn.
 

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I will be traveling through Illinois, Indiana, Ohio and Pennsylvania next week. Indiana will be fine but, Do any of these other states have the draconian vaccine passports?
 

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I will be traveling through Illinois, Indiana, Ohio and Pennsylvania next week. Indiana will be fine but, Do any of these other states have the draconian vaccine passports?
Currently I believe only one state issues Vaccine Passports. That state is NY. Their system has already failed.

But I'm not even sure what the vaccine passports are going to be used for in the states that are looking to issue them. Probably airline and Amtrak travel. Possibly to attend college. Possibly to get into a major sporting event?

For now, especially if traveling by car and staying in a hotel there is no need to worry about a vaccine passport. I travel into Illinois and Ohio on a regular basis, by car, no issues. Illinois has a theoretical self quarantine procedure but there is no mechanism to enforce it. So when I visit my daughter I am supposed to stay in a hotel for 10 (?) days in isolation before I visit her or go anywhere. Huh??? I go to Columbus OH about every 3rd week, give or take. Stay at hotels. Eat at restaurants. Not an issue.
 

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Some good news being reported out of Israel.

Israel has roughly 80% of their population vaccinated.

They just reported ZERO deaths from Covid.


Israel records ZERO daily Covid deaths for first time in ten months

Israel has recorded no new daily Covid death for the first time in ten months as it continues to lead the world in its vaccination drive.​
Figures show the country's coronavirus death tolls remained unchanged at 6,346 on Thursday.​
The last time Israel recorded zero Covid death was at the end of June last year. Hospitals have now started closing its specialist coronavirus wards after daily death toll plunged in recent weeks.​
Israel continues to lead the world in its vaccination drive, with more than 80 per cent of its adult population vaccinated.​
For the first time in 10 months, Israel have not recorded a single death related to Covid-19. it comes after the Israeli government dropped rules requiring people to wear face coverings when outside
For the first time in 10 months, Israel have not recorded a single death related to Covid-19. it comes after the Israeli government dropped rules requiring people to wear face coverings when outside​
Israel continues to lead the world in its vaccination drive, with the country having recently hit the landmark or having 80 per cent of its adult population vaccinated
Israel continues to lead the world in its vaccination drive, with the country having recently hit the landmark or having 80 per cent of its adult population vaccinated​
With only one death having been recorded the day before, it appears as though the rate at which people are dying from the virus in Israel is slowing.​
Israeli columnist Nadav Eyal Tweeted about the landmark achievement yesterday.​
In the Tweet he said: 'For the first time in 10 months, no Israeli died of Covid-19 in the last 24 hours.​
'Special Corona wards have closed in all hospitals and share of positive cases stands now on 0.4% with dozens of thousands of tests per day, in a 9M population. #Covid_EndGame.'​
The last time that Israel managed to record zero coronavirus deaths was 299 days ago on June 29, 2020, following a series of lockdown restrictions which helped contain the first wave of the virus.​
STORY CONTINUES AT THE LINK ABOVE​
 

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Couple of interesting graphs, first shows that the "DEFINITELY NOT" has pretty much remained constant as far as getting vaccinated, the next group, "ONLY IF REQUIRED" seems to have also remained fairly stable. The 2 groups combined equal approximately 20% to 22% of the population. These groups are not really fluctuating much.

The WAIT AND SEE group is clearly shrinking as time progresses and those people are shifting toward getting vaccinated.

The second graph breaks down the groups by demographic data, race/religion/politics/age/etc

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Long Haul complications are one of the scary parts of this disease. Lots of anecdotal evidence that Ivermectin treats long haul very effectively but as it is a generic drug and covid is off-label it is very rarely used in the USA. Vaccines are said to help Long Haul Covid, but I've not actually found a scientific study to prove that.
 

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I read a report somewhere a while back which said the Ivermectin had no effect on Covid-19.

I don't know if that is true or not but I was in the feed store a while back and I asked the owner, who I've known for 20 years, if he was going to get the vaccine shot. He told me that he wasn't but was going to keep self treating with Ivermectin. He's never worn a mask and he never caught COVID-19 and as an added bonus, flies don't bother him either.
 

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I read a report somewhere a while back which said the Ivermectin had no effect on Covid-19.

I don't know if that is true or not but I was in the feed store a while back and I asked the owner, who I've known for 20 years, if he was going to get the vaccine shot. He told me that he wasn't but was going to keep self treating with Ivermectin. He's never worn a mask and he never caught COVID-19 and as an added bonus, flies don't bother him either.
Ivermectin is showing great results according to lots of doctors, including at some very high level research & teaching hospitals. Look up Dr Pierre Kory's testimony to the US Senate. Plenty of evidence to back his claims.

In the US the drug is used primarily in topical ointments for on animals so buying it at the local farm supply is not the Ivermectin needed. Its an anti paracidic with anti inflammatory properties. Humans want the pill form.

Dr Campbell, a UK based teaching PHD, has several video interviews on YouTube, including a 2 parter with Dr Kory. But he has probably done about 8 total discussing Ivermectin, starting at a position of a skeptic and now as an advocate.
 

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USA gives Pfizer shots 3 weeks apart.

UK gives Pfizer shots 3 months apart. Canada is looking to follow the UK path because they have a massive vaccine shortage.

UK's theory is the 1st shot gives a good level of immunity and protection. That seemed to work well with the ORIGINAL strain of Covid. But looks like not working out so great for vatiants.




UK Study Finds Pfizer Vaccine Doesn't Offer "Full Protection" From Mutant COVID Strains

As shortages of COVID-19 vaccine supplies force more countries stretch the time between the first and second vaccine doses to try and vaccinate more people, the latest data out of a UK study of vaccination rates has stumbled on a disturbing finding: the study found that people who have had one dose are still at risk from mutated strains of the virus.
The study, published Friday afternoon in London by Imperial College London and published in the journal Science, examined the immune responses of health-care workers following their first dose of the Pfizer jab.
It found that people who had previously been infected saw significantly enhanced protection against mutant strains of the virus typically referred to as "variants". Those who only received the jab, but weren't previously infected, showed an immune response that was "less strong after a first dose, potentially leaving them at risk from variants." The findings show that those who have received the Pfizer jab aren't "fully protected" from COVID-19 variants.
Professor Rosemary Boyton, Professor of Immunology and Respiratory Medicine at Imperial College London, who led the research, said: “Our findings show that people who have had their first dose of vaccine, and who have not previously been infected with SARS-CoV-2, are not fully protected against the circulating variants of concern. This study highlights the importance of getting second doses of the vaccine rolled out to protect the population.”
Imperial College published the results in full on its website.
Meanwhile, another study released Friday came to a similar conclusion, showing that some patients who have received their first dose still wind up in the hospital with COVID symptoms.
The news appeared to weigh on US stocks, which tumbled to their lows of the session shortly after the news broke. Analysts claimed the study is a problem for the global growth outlook - which has already taken a hit thanks to to the latest data out of China - as countries like Canada aim to stagger doses by months to try and make the most out of limited supplies.
According to the latest data released on Friday, 65% of British adults have already received at least one dose, while 3,736,654 people were vaccinated in the past 7 days. More than 25% of adults in the country, meanwhile, have received both doses. 48,748,962 doses of COVID-19 vaccine have now been administered in the UK, while the US just announced that 100M Americans have now been fully vaccinated.
But the latest study data available suggests that patients who have received only one shot are still vulnerable. Researchers say the findings are reassuring because vaccines are never 100% perfect and failures are expected. But others have said that the most vulnerable patients may be letting their guard down too soon after one vaccine.
The study analyzed a quarter of all hospital patients in England, Scotland and Wales between early December and early April, and is one of the first to look at the impact of vaccinations on the numbers of people subsequently admitted to hospital.
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Meanwhile, Dr. Annemarie Docherty, a study co-author and honorary consultant in critical care, warned that this is just the latest sign that patients are assuming they're "safe" immediately after being vaccinated, rather than weeks later.
"It's entirely possible that elderly people will catch coronavirus again and may die," she said.


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Lots of bad stuff happening with Covid in other parts of the world. New lockdowns in parts of Europe while India, Brazil and Costa Rica have their healthcare systems in collapse. Israel, UK and US are racing to return to normal.

And the CDC and Fauci have become total jokes.


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Lots of bad stuff happening with Covid in other parts of the world. New lockdowns in parts of Europe while India, Brazil and Costa Rica have their healthcare systems in collapse. Israel, UK and US are racing to return to normal.

And the CDC and Fauci have become total jokes.


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Did Fauci or the CDC actually say the above (what's in the attachment), or is that just a joke? Call me gullible because I don't know what to think about that.
 

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Lots of bad stuff happening with Covid in other parts of the world. New lockdowns in parts of Europe while India, Brazil and Costa Rica have their healthcare systems in collapse. Israel, UK and US are racing to return to normal.

And the CDC and Fauci have become total jokes.


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Thank goodness I'm allowed to do missionary again. Doggy style was really getting be so old hat.
 

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Did Fauci or the CDC actually say the above (what's in the attachment), or is that just a joke? Call me gullible because I don't know what to think about that.
The attachment is a joke.

But, Dr Fauci actually said people should wear masks while having casual sex with non-exclusive partners.

Consequently people are making fun of him.

But then, there is actually a lot to make fun of with him. He seemed genuinely concerned in the early stages but was caught lying and changing the story so frequently that he became a joke all by himself. I'm not saying he is not a brilliant doctor, but he is a lousy politician. And sadly, for the American public, he became a politician.

And I people can forgive a doctor who changes their story with new evidence, by admitting that the new science is suggesting different things, but he never did that. Certainly as this disease unfolded, and still unfolds, we've gotten all sorts of new information.

We know that 3 layer cotton masks do not work (actually they may have a positive effect of approximately 1.3% in the reduction of the spread). We also know that masks should be COMPLETELY DRIED between use, that they should not be used 2 days in a row, that "surgical masks" have a total lifespan of approximately 8 hours of use, that N95 masks have an approximately lifespan of approximately 40 hours of use but should not be used 2 days in a row. We know that cotton, linen, denim, etc are totally worthless. We also know that cloth masks can actually increase people's chances of OTHER respiratory diseases if they are not washed. BUT DO WE GET COMMON GUIDANCE FROM THE CDC about any of those things???
 
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