Im glad folks didn't think that way in 1776 or we would still have a queenUnbelievable
For the good of the country right now, Trump just needs to step down, admit defeat, and quit stirring up shit. Maybe then the violent protesters will stand down too. All we need right now is for more deaths in this country, whether political or covid related, we just do not need that.
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Chaos In The Capitol
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I don't know what YOU'RE talking about there relating to my quote.Now this a bold faced lie.
Classic example of a mind that was gullible enough to twist the truth right here is the proof. Trump supporters have never rioted, on the left has rioted for months. See how the MSM's twist your mind around and change the truth?
Every time they accuse you of their crimes. Doesn't work with SOOOOOO MANY PEOPLE... More are catching on.
Today was the first day of Trump rioting. And the second day in this election cycle another election was stolen in Georgia.
Better get used to it. We are not going any were.
I was speaking of Trump supporters going to places like Sturgis.
Their mere presence alone brought about peace, there was no violence.
Stop being so freaking angry.
Christ you act like your hair caught fire.
Not all Trump supporters are down with the coup or the voter fraud allegations. This was read on Rochester’s conservative radio show Monday, I expected more pushback from the listeners. He’s on before Rush and was all in on Trump, I didn’t think he’d step away to be honest
Trump broke the Republican Party on his way out
bob lonsberry dot com
www.boblonsberry.com
Trump broke the Republican Party on his way out
It was one thing for Trump supporters to end riots months ago and bring about peace..... YOUR words
Sturgis? You have to be kidding. BLM and ANTIFA was there, and there was not a riot. In fact it would not be that way today, I guarantee that.
You are implying Trump supporters are rioters when in fact we have not been until today. And yes it is about time to send a message heard by the entire nation. It was sent. Now to see if anyone replies. Biden is a sh1thead CCP sell out, and every body knows it. Kamala was raised by parents who were strong proponents of Lenin's doctrine. If you do not understand who is going into office by a fraudulent election, you do not see the whole picture. It is not all that much about Trump, as much as it is for the election of two criminal Democrats in to the highest office of the land.
And an angry minority man who claims to be a preacher, and beats his wife... and harms kids at his so called "camp". Wins in the corrupt shit hole of Atlanta.....
Just bury your head in the sand.
Regards, Kirk
And your going to witness how broken and fractured the Dems are in the coming months.
Are you going to turn over your guns when they demand you do?
I KNOW THERE WASN'T A RIOT!!!
You aren't listening to what I'm trying to convey!
From your link.
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Resistance to constitutional process is a repudiation of the principles of conservatism and the Republican Party. Worse, it is a betrayal of the very premise of the American Republic. It breaks the compact of citizenship first envisioned on the decks of the Mayflower, and hammered out in Philadelphia in 1787.
The duty of Americans is to America first. All Americans should realize that, and so should all American leaders.
And any leader who goes counter to that, who puts his own interests above the interests of the country and the stability of its Constitution, is wrong.
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Thank you for that.
By the way, to put all your minds at ease.
I did not vote for Trump.
I did not vote for Biden.
I DID vote for Jo Jorgensen.
I think that should happen, there is a far left progressive wing that doesn’t align with the centrist type of government I prefer, be it left center or right center.
I haven’t had anyone come for my guns, I’m not real concerned that would happen under Biden/Harris. There’s an election in two years and again in four. People aren’t thinking Biden will be a savior, he’s just not Trump more than anything. I’d say it is probably better to try to fix the broken stuff, not make more.
Well said.
Thank you.
I respectfully disagree. Just one look at his cabinet picks, and kiss your gun rights good bye. First it will be ammunition and a gun tax. Then it will be all of them. You can not run a totalitarian Government for 2 years that will not do anything and everything to insure it is never removed from power. Radical Dems now have all the strings they need to radically change the United States of America. Hell are you deaf? Chuck Schumer even said so repeated on TV thousands of times in Trump adds. I saw it live..
Your fools if you think they will let this opportunity that cost hundreds of millions of dollars to artificially create. Dems always say never let an opportunity go to waste. Pack SCOTUS, remove Conservative thought, conversation, and ideology from the airwaves, our schools, brain wash our kids with principle race theory (court case on that already) and ruin another generation of our youth with their mindless rott.
Do away with the electoral college making rural American meaningless in any election in our future. Make mail in voting the new normal..
You people have no idea who your dealing with. China.
This is what they must ram through ASAP
Your fools if you think they will let this opportunity that cost hundreds of millions of dollars to artificially create. Dems always say never let an opportunity go to waste. Pack SCOTUS, remove Conservative thought, conversation, and ideology from the airwaves, our schools, brain wash our kids with principle race theory (court case on that already) and ruin another generation of our youth with their mindless rott.
Do away with the electoral college making rural American meaningless in any election in our future. Make mail in voting the new normal..
You people have no idea who your dealing with. China.
This is what they must ram through ASAP
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"This is how election results are disputed in a banana republic – not our democratic republic. I am appalled by the reckless behavior of some political leaders since the election and by the lack of respect shown today for our institutions, our traditions, and our law enforcement," said Bush, who has generally avoided the spotlight since leaving the White House.
Bush said that the "violent assault on the Capitol – and disruption of a Constitutionally-mandated meeting of Congress – was undertaken by people whose passions have been inflamed by falsehoods and false hopes."
The former Republican president warned that the siege could do "grave damage" to the country and its reputation.
- George W. Bush
Bush said that the "violent assault on the Capitol – and disruption of a Constitutionally-mandated meeting of Congress – was undertaken by people whose passions have been inflamed by falsehoods and false hopes."
The former Republican president warned that the siege could do "grave damage" to the country and its reputation.
- George W. Bush
The woman who was shot in the neck died.
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Anyone that is upset about the damage to the capitol but never made a statement against the damage to small business and private property during all the Antifa/BLM riots in the last year can go to hell.
Politicians only care about themselves. F'in hypocrites.
Politicians only care about themselves. F'in hypocrites.
After all this:
We will never give up
We will not accept this
We will stop this,
Trump finally came out and said that there will be an orderly transition of power. After loss of life, multiple injuries, destruction of property, that statement came a little too late in my book.
We will never give up
We will not accept this
We will stop this,
Trump finally came out and said that there will be an orderly transition of power. After loss of life, multiple injuries, destruction of property, that statement came a little too late in my book.
I was watching several news outlets last night.
I cannot recall which host or guest said this, but the gist of it was -
What if many of those who entered The Capitol building had stormed it carrying automatic weapons, instead of Trump, Gadsden and American flags.
Never again.
I’ll post today’s column that Bob Lonsberry wrote and read on the conservative talk radio show here in Western NY today. He’s a good writer and having been a fervent Trump supporter, I feel his perspective is worth sharing
THEY WEREN'T PATRIOTS, THEY WERE TRAITORS
God damn them all.
Every single one of them.
And God damn the one who sent them, who led them on with lies, who promised them messianic deliverance and who ginned them up with an hour-long harangue and sent them down the avenue and up the Hill of freedom.
Where they desecrated the temple of the American people, where they displaced rule of law with rule of mob, where a constitutional process involving the duly elected representatives of the American people was broken up and chased away.
Where the compact of citizenship and the pretense of order were shattered by savages pretending to be patriots.
Savages who have done what no foreign enemy dared try. Savages who have shamed us before the world and in the face of our heritage.
Never in American history has any such thing happened. That’s because never in American history has any such group of people been so craven and disrespectful of our country’s institutions, Capitol or elected representatives.
This isn’t Philadelphia in 1776, this is the Reichstag in 1933.
This is not the work of patriots, it is the work of traitors and insurrectionists. We are a Republic, we believe in rule of law, we follow the Constitution.
And the Constitution says the Electoral College is to report to the Senate and present its tally of presidential electors, in order to officially declare the next president of the United States. It is a sacred juncture in the governance of a free people. It is a touchstone of liberty.
And these bastards stopped it. They, through force of numbers and in violation of law, sent the people’s representatives scurrying to safety, in gas masks, while Capitol police with guns drawn ran to their defense.
That is a coup.
That is a violation of the rights of every single American. In the person of those congressmen and senators were represented all the people of the United States. White, black, Democrat, Republican, young, old. Every language, every opinion, every person.
And they were put to rout by a mob of thousands who didn’t even respect the seat and home of their own government. The people on Flight 93 gave their lives to protect the Capitol; these Neanderthals spat on their memory by making that same Capitol a mockery, a desecrated ground.
Never in American history has any aggrieved group of people stormed the Capitol. Never in American history has any president so clearly incited people to reject and overturn an election. Never in American history has any president, other than Jefferson Davis, so promoted insurrection.
And that is exactly what Donald Trump did.
And he, and those who heeded his call and stained those sacred halls with their trespassing feet, are traitors. Yes, they marched under an American flag, but so did Benedict Arnold.
There is no defense for this action, and there can be no acceptance of it.
And those who are so blinded by their own tribalism as to impulsively defend this attack need to check themselves, and understand what it means to be America. Those who would point to BLM protests and riots in city streets and find some moral equivalence or justification are evil and wrong.
Life is about moral choices which reflect our character. Those who use force to push past police officers and stream onto the grounds and into the halls and chambers of the Capitol, putting to rout the vice president and the speaker of the House, showed their true character. And it wasn’t red, white and blue.
It was yellow.
A patriot would lay down his life to defend the U.S. Capitol. A traitor would treat it like an enemy citadel.
This is the end of Trump. He has disqualified himself. If January 20th didn’t get him, an impeachment would. The accomplishments of the first 46 months of his term do not outweigh the outrages of the last two weeks or 24 hours.
He needs to go.
And the conservative movement and Republican Party need to look in their hearts and examine who they are and what they stand for going forward. They need to weed out the seeds of taint which recent times have planted. And all Americans need to step back from the hate which has come to define and motivate our politics, and find common cause in the Constitution and country we all share.
The storming of the temple of our democracy was a vile act which must never be repeated. We must now reconsecrate that Capitol through a renewed commitment to the constitutional process that has always guided our Republic aright.
We must be Americans first and partisans second.
Today, tomorrow, and always.
- by Bob Lonsberry © 2021
THEY WEREN'T PATRIOTS, THEY WERE TRAITORS
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Every single one of them.
And God damn the one who sent them, who led them on with lies, who promised them messianic deliverance and who ginned them up with an hour-long harangue and sent them down the avenue and up the Hill of freedom.
Where they desecrated the temple of the American people, where they displaced rule of law with rule of mob, where a constitutional process involving the duly elected representatives of the American people was broken up and chased away.
Where the compact of citizenship and the pretense of order were shattered by savages pretending to be patriots.
Savages who have done what no foreign enemy dared try. Savages who have shamed us before the world and in the face of our heritage.
Never in American history has any such thing happened. That’s because never in American history has any such group of people been so craven and disrespectful of our country’s institutions, Capitol or elected representatives.
This isn’t Philadelphia in 1776, this is the Reichstag in 1933.
This is not the work of patriots, it is the work of traitors and insurrectionists. We are a Republic, we believe in rule of law, we follow the Constitution.
And the Constitution says the Electoral College is to report to the Senate and present its tally of presidential electors, in order to officially declare the next president of the United States. It is a sacred juncture in the governance of a free people. It is a touchstone of liberty.
And these bastards stopped it. They, through force of numbers and in violation of law, sent the people’s representatives scurrying to safety, in gas masks, while Capitol police with guns drawn ran to their defense.
That is a coup.
That is a violation of the rights of every single American. In the person of those congressmen and senators were represented all the people of the United States. White, black, Democrat, Republican, young, old. Every language, every opinion, every person.
And they were put to rout by a mob of thousands who didn’t even respect the seat and home of their own government. The people on Flight 93 gave their lives to protect the Capitol; these Neanderthals spat on their memory by making that same Capitol a mockery, a desecrated ground.
Never in American history has any aggrieved group of people stormed the Capitol. Never in American history has any president so clearly incited people to reject and overturn an election. Never in American history has any president, other than Jefferson Davis, so promoted insurrection.
And that is exactly what Donald Trump did.
And he, and those who heeded his call and stained those sacred halls with their trespassing feet, are traitors. Yes, they marched under an American flag, but so did Benedict Arnold.
There is no defense for this action, and there can be no acceptance of it.
And those who are so blinded by their own tribalism as to impulsively defend this attack need to check themselves, and understand what it means to be America. Those who would point to BLM protests and riots in city streets and find some moral equivalence or justification are evil and wrong.
Life is about moral choices which reflect our character. Those who use force to push past police officers and stream onto the grounds and into the halls and chambers of the Capitol, putting to rout the vice president and the speaker of the House, showed their true character. And it wasn’t red, white and blue.
It was yellow.
A patriot would lay down his life to defend the U.S. Capitol. A traitor would treat it like an enemy citadel.
This is the end of Trump. He has disqualified himself. If January 20th didn’t get him, an impeachment would. The accomplishments of the first 46 months of his term do not outweigh the outrages of the last two weeks or 24 hours.
He needs to go.
And the conservative movement and Republican Party need to look in their hearts and examine who they are and what they stand for going forward. They need to weed out the seeds of taint which recent times have planted. And all Americans need to step back from the hate which has come to define and motivate our politics, and find common cause in the Constitution and country we all share.
The storming of the temple of our democracy was a vile act which must never be repeated. We must now reconsecrate that Capitol through a renewed commitment to the constitutional process that has always guided our Republic aright.
We must be Americans first and partisans second.
Today, tomorrow, and always.
- by Bob Lonsberry © 2021
Elaine Chao has put in her resignation.
Chuck Schumer is calling for swift impeachment.
There weren't many happy people this morning.
Chuck Schumer is calling for swift impeachment.
There weren't many happy people this morning.
See my post above. This butthole can go to hell.I’ll post today’s column that Bob Lonsberry wrote and read on the conservative talk radio show here in Western NY today. He’s a good writer and having been a fervent Trump supporter, I feel his perspective is worth sharing
THEY WEREN'T PATRIOTS, THEY WERE TRAITORS
God damn them all.
Every single one of them.
And God damn the one who sent them, who led them on with lies, who promised them messianic deliverance and who ginned them up with an hour-long harangue and sent them down the avenue and up the Hill of freedom.
Where they desecrated the temple of the American people, where they displaced rule of law with rule of mob, where a constitutional process involving the duly elected representatives of the American people was broken up and chased away.
Where the compact of citizenship and the pretense of order were shattered by savages pretending to be patriots.
Savages who have done what no foreign enemy dared try. Savages who have shamed us before the world and in the face of our heritage.
Never in American history has any such thing happened. That’s because never in American history has any such group of people been so craven and disrespectful of our country’s institutions, Capitol or elected representatives.
This isn’t Philadelphia in 1776, this is the Reichstag in 1933.
This is not the work of patriots, it is the work of traitors and insurrectionists. We are a Republic, we believe in rule of law, we follow the Constitution.
And the Constitution says the Electoral College is to report to the Senate and present its tally of presidential electors, in order to officially declare the next president of the United States. It is a sacred juncture in the governance of a free people. It is a touchstone of liberty.
And these bastards stopped it. They, through force of numbers and in violation of law, sent the people’s representatives scurrying to safety, in gas masks, while Capitol police with guns drawn ran to their defense.
That is a coup.
That is a violation of the rights of every single American. In the person of those congressmen and senators were represented all the people of the United States. White, black, Democrat, Republican, young, old. Every language, every opinion, every person.
And they were put to rout by a mob of thousands who didn’t even respect the seat and home of their own government. The people on Flight 93 gave their lives to protect the Capitol; these Neanderthals spat on their memory by making that same Capitol a mockery, a desecrated ground.
Never in American history has any aggrieved group of people stormed the Capitol. Never in American history has any president so clearly incited people to reject and overturn an election. Never in American history has any president, other than Jefferson Davis, so promoted insurrection.
And that is exactly what Donald Trump did.
And he, and those who heeded his call and stained those sacred halls with their trespassing feet, are traitors. Yes, they marched under an American flag, but so did Benedict Arnold.
There is no defense for this action, and there can be no acceptance of it.
And those who are so blinded by their own tribalism as to impulsively defend this attack need to check themselves, and understand what it means to be America. Those who would point to BLM protests and riots in city streets and find some moral equivalence or justification are evil and wrong.
Life is about moral choices which reflect our character. Those who use force to push past police officers and stream onto the grounds and into the halls and chambers of the Capitol, putting to rout the vice president and the speaker of the House, showed their true character. And it wasn’t red, white and blue.
It was yellow.
A patriot would lay down his life to defend the U.S. Capitol. A traitor would treat it like an enemy citadel.
This is the end of Trump. He has disqualified himself. If January 20th didn’t get him, an impeachment would. The accomplishments of the first 46 months of his term do not outweigh the outrages of the last two weeks or 24 hours.
He needs to go.
And the conservative movement and Republican Party need to look in their hearts and examine who they are and what they stand for going forward. They need to weed out the seeds of taint which recent times have planted. And all Americans need to step back from the hate which has come to define and motivate our politics, and find common cause in the Constitution and country we all share.
The storming of the temple of our democracy was a vile act which must never be repeated. We must now reconsecrate that Capitol through a renewed commitment to the constitutional process that has always guided our Republic aright.
We must be Americans first and partisans second.
Today, tomorrow, and always.
- by Bob Lonsberry © 2021
I agree with your post above, so does the writer.
I’m not sure my feelings are quite as strong as his on this matter but wanted to share his view, he was all in for 5 years until all of the legal remedies failed. Many of his listeners feel the same way as you, many agree with him. I listen for perspective
Zuckerberg or Kirk or Jimbo can donate any amount they like to any candidate. Nor is there anything illegal about it. A few billion or so is donated each election cycle. What we need to focus on is illegal votes cast or simply made up.Notice the lack of looting and burning. lol
There is a mountain of great evidence that this election was rigged. I will start with FB Jeff Zuckerberg donating to one political party $400 million to buy the election. I have right here provided hours of evidence put on there by experts in the fields of politics and statistics. Not one has ever testified in a court of law. Not even one.
Better show pictures of Republicans with automatic weapons then. Other wise just more bull sh1t and MSM lies.
The total damage to the Capitol building would not repair one single small business in the Cities the left wing Democrats
known for lying cheating stealing rioting looting burning.... left in ashes in... pick a City ran by Democrats. They have not one damn thing to stand
on regarding their actions. I hope the Democrats in the Capitol were scared shitless. They now know they to can be "gotten to" LMAO!!
Time to fight their fire with a bit of our own.
The woman shot was shot by Capitol Police, and was unwarranted. She was not challenging a any security at all. Maybe charges should be brought on that Cop...
Not trying to justify this, but a message had to be sent one way or another. Mess with us, and there will be repercussions. Count on that.
When these idiots come after us with wealth redistribution, make S.S. needs based, and open the borders, then at any time try and take the guns., there will be streets paved in blood. Then we will see who wins that game.
Regards, Kirk
Ok Kirk.
You're right.
You're right about EVERYTHING!!
You have all the freaking answers to all the world's problems.
I'll shut up and stay out of any political discussions from now on.
No one can ever have their own opinion or disagree with you, Johnny Bravo.
Out
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You're right.
You're right about EVERYTHING!!
You have all the freaking answers to all the world's problems.
I'll shut up and stay out of any political discussions from now on.
No one can ever have their own opinion or disagree with you, Johnny Bravo.
Out
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I ask for proof and you have non to back up your ridiculous statement. Typical there was "no evidence" the election was stolen either was
there? LOL your the one with all the answers. Trouble is you can not back them up.
I do not have all the answers at all. But I do call them as I see them.
there? LOL your the one with all the answers. Trouble is you can not back them up.
I do not have all the answers at all. But I do call them as I see them.
PG’s post didn’t say they had weapons, it said “what if”
I know it’s hard to see but that was a coup attempt. His supporters are pissed about the things he and his minions have been telling them. Listen to the full hour plus of the phone call with Georgia, not a fact spoken. His own words
not the phone call link
I know it’s hard to see but that was a coup attempt. His supporters are pissed about the things he and his minions have been telling them. Listen to the full hour plus of the phone call with Georgia, not a fact spoken. His own words
not the phone call link
I already have. I did so after Trump was taken out of contest in the edited for lefties version. I see nothing wrong here at all. Georgia is a crooked State. Deep water port in the State that imports exports to China.
lots of Chinese money to buy crooked politicians off, including Republicans, who are not immune to this.
In the end it will be proven the election in Georgia and other States were fraudulent. Just give it some time, some thing
Democrats will try and block, like everything else, in this case with crooked Republicans going along for the ride.
An innocent man has nothing to hide, and a guilty one has every thing to hide. So why is Georgia and other States hiding the evidence??
As for PG this projecting of a lie is the same as a lie. The "what if" is not an excuse to surmise the truth. I asked for a pic, and there is none.
No one should predict, nor surmise anything. Facts matter, speculation doesn't.
lots of Chinese money to buy crooked politicians off, including Republicans, who are not immune to this.
In the end it will be proven the election in Georgia and other States were fraudulent. Just give it some time, some thing
Democrats will try and block, like everything else, in this case with crooked Republicans going along for the ride.
An innocent man has nothing to hide, and a guilty one has every thing to hide. So why is Georgia and other States hiding the evidence??
As for PG this projecting of a lie is the same as a lie. The "what if" is not an excuse to surmise the truth. I asked for a pic, and there is none.
No one should predict, nor surmise anything. Facts matter, speculation doesn't.
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I didn’t see projection. I think the point was, if the capitol was so easily breached the rioters could have shot the vp, vp elect, senators, representatives. They all denounced the insurrection.
The beat up cops didn’t think it was cool but they were probably glad there were no rifles inside.
Support is waning, Trump won’t get a consecutive second term. 2024 maybe he could run, but he lost half of his support yesterday
The beat up cops didn’t think it was cool but they were probably glad there were no rifles inside.
Support is waning, Trump won’t get a consecutive second term. 2024 maybe he could run, but he lost half of his support yesterday
Not on YouTube
senators and reps, Republicans that stuck by because of the R.
senators and reps, Republicans that stuck by because of the R.
National support. The only thing that matters. 80+% of Republicans, 30% of independents, and 30% of Democrats believe the election
was fraudulent. The Republicans who did not back Trump are in for a rude awakening come primary time. Many have already ended their political careers. They just do not know it....yet.
Now your talking, that’s how to cure bad governance in a democracy.
*my last post of the evening