• Please be sure to read the rules and adhere to them. Some banned members have complained that they are not spammers. But they spammed us. Some even tried to redirect our members to other forums. Duh. Be smart. Read the rules and adhere to them and we will all get along just fine. Cheers. :beer: Link to the rules: https://www.forumsforums.com/threads/forum-rules-info.2974/

First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out--

California

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First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out--
because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out--
because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out--
because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out--
because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me--
and there was no one left to speak out for me. -
Martin Niemoeller, Christian leader in pre-war Germany, imprisoned by Hitler. Link

Annoying someone via the Internet is now a federal crime.

"It's no joke. Last Thursday, President Bush signed into law a prohibition on posting annoying Web messages or sending annoying e-mail messages without disclosing your true identity.

"Here's the relevant language. "Whoever...utilizes any device or software that can be used to originate telecommunications or other types of communications that are transmitted, in whole or in part, by the Internet... without disclosing his identity and with intent to annoy, abuse, threaten, or harass any person...who receives the communications...shall be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than two years, or both."

""The use of the word 'annoy' is particularly problematic," says Marv Johnson, legislative counsel for the American Civil Liberties Union. "What's annoying to one person may not be annoying to someone else.""

Widely reprinted. I think this is the original article. Source.

So long as this law stands, political debate is muzzled in America. Calling someone 'annoying' is all it will take to silence any critic of the Administration if he has not fully identified himself.

What do we do next, here? Everyone here is annoying to a degree. Do we need to publish our identities, home addresses, etc before resuming posting?
 
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Melensdad

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I may be wrong, but it is my understanding that this is aimed at people using annonymous servers to send emails, or otherwise communicate without any ability to have the communication tracked backwards, and with the intent to harrass people. One of the things this addesses are those folks or spammers who will clone your email identity to send out thousands of emails that cannot be responded to but appear to come from your email.

I'm sure that there is plenty that I would object to in the bill, but generally I'm not worried about it infringing on my ability to annoy people.
 

Melensdad

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B_Skurka said:
generally I'm not worried about it infringing on my ability to annoy people.


Especially Bonehead!
 

humor_me

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California said:
Annoying someone via the Internet is now a federal crime.

"It's no joke. Last Thursday, President Bush signed into law a prohibition on posting annoying Web messages or sending annoying e-mail messages without disclosing your true identity.


I hope it brings us closer to solving the bs about spam.
Now, if we could just quit getting :14_6_20: "you've been PREAPPROVED!" :flame1: crap in the mail! :finger1: :2gunsfiri

I truly believe that all those bank card companies are the sole reason people are buying paper shredders for home use!
 

thcri

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humor_me said:
Now, if we could just quit getting :14_6_20: "you've been PREAPPROVED!" :flame1: crap in the mail! :finger1: :2gunsfiri


The pre-approved crap has been hitting me for a long time, but the one that pissed me off is the "enlarge your penis is just days". I don't know who put me on that list and my wife claims she didn't:confused:
 

OkeeDon

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You can get rid of the pre-approved stuff in snail mail, and perhaps more. Click this link and look for the toll-free number. It's an automated line; you can get off the pre-approved list for 5 years with the responses on the phone; if you want to make it permanent, they will send you a form which has to e returned. You can remove a spouse at the same time; just be sure to have all SS#'s ready.
 

OkeeDon

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thcri said:
The pre-approved crap has been hitting me for a long time, but the one that pissed me off is the "enlarge your penis is just days". I don't know who put me on that list and my wife claims she didn't:confused:
Don't worry aout it. My wife, my daughter and my female dog are also on the list. I'm also on the list for breast enlargement. I get rid of that stuff with email filters.
 

Dargo

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OkeeDon said:
Don't worry aout it. My wife, my daughter and my female dog are also on the list. I'm also on the list for breast enlargement. I get rid of that stuff with email filters.

Several years ago I had a couple of hours to kill at an airport between flights. I went to one of the book/magazine stores there and proceeded to fill out every flier from all of the smut magazines (complete with email address) for my attorney. :yum:

You wanna talk about a hoot. He was just telling me the other day that his daughter told him that in the mail he received the "pocket pussy" sample unit he had ordered, and then asked him "Dad, what's a pocket pussy?" :eek: He pretty well knows that I did the deed, but I've never admitted to being the one. You ought to hear some of the stories he tells about what he has received in the mail and in emails. He said that his mailman now always gives him strange looks. I'd bet in that 2 hours I had to waste at the airport I probably got over a hundred of the things filled out for him! Could you imagine getting all the stuff he gets and trying to explain it to your wife?! :yum:
 

OregonAlex

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Dargo said:
He was just telling me the other day that his daughter told him that in the mail he received the "pocket pussy" sample unit he had ordered, and then asked him "Dad, what's a pocket pussy?"

:wave::wave::wave::wave::wave::wave:
oh oh.. I know.. thats kind of like a lap dog. right?
 
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