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S-noWonder

New member
Can someone explain to me why there are jokes about the Clintons causing Epstein's "suicide"? How has this become the given and a new normal for our country? The list of dead in the trail of these power people keeps growing and jokes are made. No one is offended, no one seems to notice these asshats are still holding on to their perversion and power.

I am so worried about the well being of the Americans in this country. Slowly lead to slaughter with lifestyles that can't be maintained and laws that aren't followed and respect not given to those that are working tirelessly to keep us safe.

How do we turn it around? How can this be fixed? We are so blessed that Trump is in the oval office, and I can't imagine how F'd up we would be had Hillary won.

This has been generations in the making. Unmaking it will take very drastic measures.

Sorry, I know this isn't an article from a well known source or any kind of update or news. This is from the heart, straight up fear for our way of life. Yeah, a little dramatic I know, but it's how I feel.
 

Jim_S

Gone But Not Forgotten
GOLD Site Supporter
Can someone explain to me why there are jokes about the Clintons causing Epstein's "suicide"?

I think it is a sign of our frustration with the overall lack of progress in resolving many of these situations. :hammer: :hammer: :hammer: :hammer: :hammer:
 

tiredretired

The Old Salt
SUPER Site Supporter
Sorry Sno-Wonder, I do nor intend to take your concerns lightly or disregard them in way.

I despise the Klintons. I despise them with every fiber of my being. They are corrupt, sick, deranged and despicable humans beings and I would never pass up an opportunity to make light of them at every opportunity afforded me.

With that said, I present my latest internet find...............

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Bamby

New member
Can't you see we are the joke and have failed to face reality for a long, long time. I can remember a time maybe even before my parents tried to explain the birds and the bee's about the conversation they had with me about life. Yea they were trying to teach me about crime families and how evil they were and how careful we needed to be about seeing anything and their sentences passed down upon knowing anything. Used to be some pretty grotesque slayings in the area used to keep the people in line.

This was coming from a fine christen women who drug all of us to church every Sunday who was insistent she got the message imposed through my thick skull so I might not fall into trouble with those people somehow.

Those people were above the law then and even more powerful people are in their place now. Just look at the fraud taking place in just the bunch of liberal idiots running for president. Look at the fraud in their background thats out in the open this early in the contest and it's not even slowing them down. I just can't imagine what's being held back to insure they continue doing their work.

Anyway we had true equal law in this country we'd have a whole raft of riffraff in DC facing criminal charges and indictments and a whole lot of us realize the fact. As it is all we can do poke at our keyboards and bitch about it...:hammer:
 

Bamby

New member
Here is another reality in which you question. How about a for real investigation into all these instances below...

Here It Is… Complete List of Clinton Associates Who Allegedly Died Mysteriously or Committed Suicide Before Testimony, Including Jeffrey Epstein

On Saturday multimillionaire Jeffrey Epstein, the highest profile prisoner in US custody, was found dead in his prison cell in Manhattan. This occurred the day after two thousand previously sealed court documents involving the Jeffrey Epstein child sex abuse case were released to the public.

The documents described how Bill Clinton held a private party on Jeffrey Epstein’s pedophile island.

Clinton made at least 27 times trips on Jeffrey Epstein’s private plane. Most of those flights were with underage girls.

Despite a previous attempt on his life just three weeks ago the prison guards skipped the 30 minute required checks on Epstein’s cell last night.

Early this morning they found him dead.

Jeffrey Epstein is the latest in a long list of Clinton family associates and acquaintances who died mysteriously or committed suicide before their public testimony.

In 2016 CBS Las Vegas posted a list of Bill and Hillary Clinton associates alleged to have died under mysterious circumstances.


Here is that list.

1- James McDougal – Clintons convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr’s investigation.

2 – Mary Mahoney – A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown .. The murder …happened just after she was to go public w:th her story of sexual harassment in the White House.

3 – Vince Foster – Former White House counselor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock’s Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.

4 – Ron Brown – Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown’s skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors. The rest of the people on the plane also died. A few days later the Air Traffic controller commited suicide.

5 – C. Victor Raiser, II – Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.

6 – Paul Tulley – Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock , September 1992. Described by Clinton as a “dear friend and trusted advisor”.

7 – Ed Willey – Clinton fundraiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.

8 – Jerry Parks – Head of Clinton’s gubernatorial security team in Little Rock .. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock Park’s son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.

9 – James Bunch – Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a “Black Book” of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas

10 – James Wilson – Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater..

11 – Kathy Ferguson – Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.

12 – Bill Shelton – Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancee.

13 – Gandy Baugh – Attorney for Clinton’s friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.

14 – Florence Martin – Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal, Mena, Arkansas, airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.

15 – Suzanne Coleman – Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.

16 – Paula Grober – Clinton’s speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.

17 – Danny Casolaro – Investigative reporter, investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.

18 – Paul Wilcher – Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 “October Surprise” was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993, in his Washington DC apartment had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.

19 – Jon Parnell Walker – Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington ,Virginia apartment balcony August 15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guaranty scandal.

20 – Barbara Wise – Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death: Unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised, naked body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.

21 – Charles Meissner – Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.

22 – Dr. Stanley Heard – Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton ‘s advisory council personally treated Clinton’s mother, stepfather and brother.

23 – Barry Seal – Drug running TWA pilot out of Mena Arkansas, death was no accident.

24 – Johnny Lawhorn, Jr. – Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.

25 – Stanley Huggins – Investigated Madison Guaranty. His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released.

26 – Hershell Friday – Attorney and Clinton fundraiser died March 1, 1994, when his plane exploded.

27 – Kevin Ives & Don Henry – Known as “The boys on the track” case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.

THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:

28 – Keith Coney – Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, 7/88.

29 – Keith McMaskle – Died, stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988

30 – Gregory Collins – Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.

31 – Jeff Rhodes – He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.

32 – James Milan – Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to natural causes”.

34 – Richard Winters – A suspect in the Ives/Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.

THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE ALSO DEAD
35 – Major William S. Barkley, Jr.
36 – Captain Scott J . Reynolds
37 – Sgt. Brian Hanley
38 – Sgt. Tim Sabel
39 – Major General William Robertson
40 – Col. William Densberger
41 – Col. Robert Kelly
42 – Spec. Gary Rhodes
43 – Steve Willis
44 – Robert Williams
45 – Conway LeBleu
46 – Todd McKeehan

And the most recent, Seth Rich, the DC staffer murdered and “robbed” (of nothing) on July 10. Wikileaks found Assange claims he had info on the DNC email scandal.

Not Included in this list are the 4 heroes killed in Benghazi.

And today you can add multi-millionaire Jeffrey Epstein to the list.
 

Doc

Bottoms Up
Staff member
GOLD Site Supporter
I think it is frustration at the lack of accountability for all the crimes the Clinton's have got away with. Does anyone think the list that Bamby posted above is all by coincidence? Does anyone believe that the Clinton's were innocent of having the Steele dossier created in an effort to bring down Trump? Does anyone believe Clinton's were innocent of literally stealing the democratic nomination from Bernie Sanders? etc etc etc etc :angry:
 

Bamby

New member
Epstein’s killer has already gotten away with murder

The minute I read Trey Gowdy’s quote concerning Jeffrey Epstein’s suicide I knew that we will never get to the bottom of the irresponsible and unforgiveable actions of our government concerning the suicide of Epstein.

Gowdy, who never gets to the bottom of anything before retiring and cashing big checks, said, “I am heartbroken for the victims.”

Gowdy might as well have said, “Well that’s that, we will never know the truth. Too bad for all of those underage women, I am sorry but the secrets die with the man.”

No further curiosity needed; too bad for those girls.

Gowdy knows how things work around here.

According to Morgan Krakow, Hannah Knowles, and Marisa Lati at MSN, “Epstein was placed on suicide watch last month but then taken off within about a week, a person familiar with the matter who spoke on the condition of anonymity told the Washington Post.”

We should know right this minute who took Epstein off suicide watch.

But we don’t.

And I doubt we will ever know.

Whoever gave that order is the traitor in our midst.

So we begin another round of “investigation” that will lead to nowhere because pertinent questions will never be asked.

The Jeffrey Epstein suicide case begins with the person who ordered Epstein off suicide watch. This person pulled the trigger, whether Epstein actually committed the act or someone else shoved Epstein’s neck into the noose.

Who lifted the suicide watch and pushed Jeffrey Epstein’s button?

It’s just one more thing we will never get to the bottom of.

And that’s more than a little heartbreaking.
 

S-noWonder

New member
With all the dead at their feet, and not one clue on who did it. With all our knowledge and science, I know the answer is out there, yet no one can point the finger. This is more than just the Killtons, this is way bigger than that. Yet no one lives long enough to take a stand.
 
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