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'New California' campaign aims to separate rural counties from coastal cities

Catavenger

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I think you have all read about California wanting to leave the USA. Now part of California wants to leave the rest of it.
https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/New-California-campaign-aims-to-separate-rural-12501812.php

'New California' campaign aims to separate rural counties from coastal cities

By Alyssa Pereira, SFGATE Updated 2:51 pm, Tuesday, January 16, 2018

Two men frustrated with what they call an "ungovernable" California have launched a new campaign to divide the rural areas of the state from its coastal cities.

Founders of the "New California" movement, Robert Paul Preston and Tom Reed, write on the campaign's website that California is "a failed state" and that "citizens of California are living under a tyrannical form of government that does not follow the California and U.S. Constitutions."

The campaign cites high taxes, and a decline in housing, health care, prisons, state parks, education, and "business climate," among other things, in both high-density and rural areas as reasons for a division.

"There's something wrong when you have a rural county such as this one, and you go down to Orange County which is mostly urban, and it has the same set of problems, and it happens because of how the state is being governed and taxed," Preston told CBS Sacramento.
Unlike other, similar campaigns, this is not a secession; rather, proponents of New California want to create a brand new economy with a new constitution via Article IV, Section 3 of the United States Constitution.

That section, which is related to statehood, dictates that no new state within an existing one already in the union may be created "without the consent of the legislatures of the states concerned as well as of the Congress."

The New California campaign most resembles the "Six Californias" initiative, which aimed to divide California into six regional states. That movement did not garner enough signatures to make it onto the 2016 ballot.

New California has little chance of succeeding, comparable to other campaigns to alter the makeup of California, but the group is nevertheless pushing forward and organizing meetings around the cause. On Monday, the group released a "Declaration of Independence" calling for "a free and Independent State" with "full power to establish and maintain law and order, to promote general prosperity."
According to CBS Sacramento, representatives for New California say it will be 10 to 18 months before they'll be ready to work with the current state's legislature.
By the way West Virginia did secede from Virginia at the beginning of the Civil War:
http://www.history.com/news/8-things-you-may-not-know-about-west-virginia
 

S-noWonder

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This movement has already started with the "state of Jefferson". This new movement is to separate those that want to split the state. We have some wanting 3 different states, the coast and the north and south. The state of Jefferson just wants the rural north and central part of the state. Seems they are trying to add so many options just to ruin the movement. The conservatives of California don't want to leave the country. We just want to take the water and farm land and leave the rest of these "new age progressives" to themselves.
 

rugerman

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Ain’t going to happen! The liberals need the conservatives to continue to work to support their welfare way of life, the only way that the welfare state exists is on the backs of the folks who work and pay taxes so the welfare folks can continue to have kids, get food stamps, free medical, obama phones, etc. the free stuff crowd can’t exist on its own, it is a parasite that feeds off the efforts of the working class to maintain their way of life.
 

tiredretired

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Ain’t going to happen! The liberals need the conservatives to continue to work to support their welfare way of life, the only way that the welfare state exists is on the backs of the folks who work and pay taxes so the welfare folks can continue to have kids, get food stamps, free medical, obama phones, etc. the free stuff crowd can’t exist on its own, it is a parasite that feeds off the efforts of the working class to maintain their way of life.

Exactly. Regardless of what they say, liberals need the hard working tax paying conservatives. But, they need them at 49% so they remain a minority they despise, yet in large enough numbers to finance the wacky liberal pet project of the day, such as the high speed train to nowhere.

In contrast, we do not need liberals at all and would be much the better for it if they all just dried up and blew away in the wind. So, which one is the parasite and which one is the nuisance. LOL.
 
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