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Catholic leaders call for Gov. Cuomo to be excommunicated for ‘flagrant celebration of pro-abortion bill’
By Caleb Parke | Fox News

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NY bishop slams Gov. Cuomo for citing Catholic faith but supporting abortion legislation
New York Governor Andrew Cuomo celebrated the passage of an abortion bill that legalizes abortion up until the point of birth in many cases to the applause of progressives, but angered many religious leaders, especially in the Democratic governor's own professed Catholic faith.

Now, some Catholic leaders are calling for him to be excommunicated from the church.

Cuomo held a public signing of the bill minutes after the "Reproductive Health Act" passed, moving abortion from the state criminal statute to the health code. The new law allows non-doctors to perform the procedure and allows for abortions up to the point of birth if the life or health of the mother is deemed at risk or the baby is not viable. The governor especially angered opponents when he ordered that landmarks in the state, including One World Trade Center, be lit pink in celebration.

NEW YORK 'CELEBRATES' LEGALIZING ABORTION UNTIL BIRTH AS CATHOLIC BISHOPS QUESTION CUOMO'S FAITH

"It goes way beyond Roe v. Wade in so many ways, so I don't see it as something to celebrate," Albany Bishop Edward Scharfenberger told "Fox & Friends" Saturday. "The kind of procedures that are now available in New York state, we wouldn't even do to a dog or a cat...It's torture."

New York state bishops have been asked to consider ex-communication, which Scharfenberger says is a "last resort" that may come about if Cuomo continues to distance himself from the church.

Scharfenberger said Cuomo, who has touted his Roman Catholic faith and the fact that he was a former altar boy in his State of the State address earlier this month, should not be receiving communion because of his flagrant celebration of the pro-abortion bill, a "very radical separation from the Catholic communion" and "light years away" from Pope Francis on abortion.

Tennesee Bishop Rick Stika of Knoxville tweeted on Thursday that if it were up to him, he’d excommunicate Cuomo.

“This vote is so hideous and vile that it warrants the act,” Stika wrote.

Other Catholics, including bishops, agreed on social media, but it is unlikely to happen.

Cardinal Timothy Dolan, the Archbishop of New York, told "Fox & Friends" Monday morning it would just be "ammunition" for pro-abortion opponents who would dismiss the issue as a Catholic one and not a human rights issue. He said he gets "wheelbarrows" full of letters a day asking about it.

"He's not going to be moved by this, so what's the use?" Dolan remarked.

The New York archbishop did note that excommunication for anyone who performed abortions or supported the practice was the norm until the last 50 years or so when the church focused more on mercy.

Cuomo’s father, the late three-term governor Mario Cuomo, was threatened with excommunication for his views on abortion.

Caleb Parke is an associate editor for FoxNews.com. You can follow him on Twitter @calebparke
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The New York archbishop did note that excommunication for anyone who performed abortions or supported the practice was the norm until the last 50 years or so when the church focused more on mercy.

Mercy my ass. it's called the church being nothing but a hot bed of liberalism, progressivism and communism. I left that place in 1972 when during a mass the priest wailed on and on about Nixon bombing North Viet Nam. I got up and walked out. Except for weddings or funerals I have never darkened their doorstep and never will.

There is NO mercy toward baby murderers. God will judge them and then lets see what kind of cocky face Governor Homo has then.
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I think the archbishop has it wrong.
The church had only become radicalized via liberal thought something like 30 years ago.
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Excommunicate him???? Can't we just hang the worthless SOB?????

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Excommunicate him???? Can't we just hang the worthless SOB?????

If Homeland Security is monitoring this thread … I'm only joking!!!!
Hahahahahaha, good one Frank. That SOB has no soul and is a murdering bastard and I am way too old to give a shit what DHS thinks of my opinion.

As a side note, I see some Cardinal yapping on TV last night about giving Gov. Homo his walking papers. I laughed and told the wife that is all they do, go on TV and yap, yap, yap about it and then do nothing. Nothing will come of this. I have respect for the Church's lay leadership, but their ordained leadership ain't worth a pinch of shit. IMHO.
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I think the left's new strategy is to pass laws and see how much blowback results. If they get away with it then pass even more dangerous, IMO, laws to see what happens. It's just the communist/socialist way of doing business!! You just keep stepping across lines to see if someone will push you back. If that doesn't happen then step across the next line.
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The USA is one of only four nations that allow ( legally) post viability and even post term abortions. Right up there with the likes of North Korea and China.




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America is joined only by Canada, North Korea, and China.
It’s easy to become inured to the state of abortion in the United States, but every so often someone sends a shock to the system.
In a new book about the history of Roe, Abuse of Discretion"><font color=Abuse of Discretion" />Abuse of Discretion , lawyer Clarke Forsythe combs through the historical record of the Supreme Court’s decision, from case files to personal papers, to show exactly how pell-mell the verdict was. And in the course of all this he highlights how out-of-the-norm America’s abortion regime is.
Here’s Forsythe:
The United States is an outlier when it comes to the scope of the abortion “right.” The United States is one of approximately ten nations (of 195) that allow abortion after fourteen weeks of gestation. The others are: Canada, China, Great Britain, North Korea, the Netherlands, Singapore, Sweden, Western Australia, and Vietnam. When it comes to allowing abortion for any reason after viability, however, the United States is joined only by Canada, North Korea, and China. The United States got into this situation because after the second round of arguments in Roe and Doe, the Justices abruptly decided to expand the abortion right they were creating to fetal viability—and then beyond. For forty years, this abrupt decision has had profound implications for late-term abortions, live-birth abortions, and women’s health.
To be sure, many nations disapprove of abortion de jure, yet allow it de facto. But this is a distinction with a difference because it shows that the culture still has moral bearings, even if it frequently sets them aside in the name of expediency


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Virginia's Governor admits in his state post birth abortion is legal.
https://godfatherpolitics.com/virgin...n-after-birth/

“If a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen. The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother.”

Just a reminder about Virginia, the state encompasses the District of Columbia.

Need I say more?
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The ghoulish, cretin pro aborts have never met a fetus or baby they didn't want to kill. They prefer the only hands to touch a newborn baby (whatever his or her condition) to be those of a rubber-gloved abortion doctor, instead of the loving hands of a mother who carried the child for nine months.

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Cuomo is the Governor of New York State and as such must perform his obligations tot he people without letting his religion interfere. It was the state legislature than passed the law for the people of New York so the "sin" is on them and the population of voters that put them in power.

Excommunication therefore is perhaps an unwise move for the church.

However, he signed it so eagerly into law. And with such glee. Perhaps an Arch bishop should meet him in confession. The two of them enter the sanctuary and perhaps only one comes out.

If it is Cuomo, then the sanctimonious Bishop, who should have kicked Cuomo to the curb years ago, deserved his end.


The Church should neither fear the state nor run it. But Catholics are lame when it comes to abortion. If they cannot get their flocks to stand against it in the safety of the voting booth, that is on the church. A body that has taken the route of pollical expediency. And so, now the innocent die with state, and tacit church, approval.

I am reminded of the cozy symbiotic relationship of European monarchy's with the Church of Rome. Even here in America then, despite our better nature and enlightened self governance, not much has changed

Perhaps new blood is called for. In both organizations.
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Well, I guess I have yapped and piss & moaned enough on this subject, but that never stops me.

Simply put, the Party of Satan does not believe in the Commandment "Thou Shall Not Kill".
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You can't throw him out of the game for that. There's been enough bad calls already. At most it should be a 5 yard penalty to be assessed on the kick-off.
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He was declared an enemy of the state. So, they strapped him down. Then they began removing organs. His genitals first while he was conscious, so he could see his seed would never be again sown. Then his bowels, his hands and feet, then his heart. His head crushed and removed from the body. What was left became cut into quarters and ripped apart.

He was an enemy of the state. And for this his execution needed to be painful, witnessed, and approved by the majority. And those of population who cringed and objected, needed to be silent in their lamenting's, and learn their place.

….He was an enemy of the state....

The 13th century was a brutal time. Barbaric by today's standards. At 35 years of age William Wallace was removed as threat to the kingdom. Perhaps he was. But at 35 weeks, how is a baby, still in the womb, an equal threat to the state.

…...He was an enemy of the State...…

Because in a partial birth, post birth or otherwise abortion a completely viable and alive human fetus can be a threat to the state, or the mother? No? Of course not. Why then do we practice the exact same execution, pain and destruction included, against the will of the people for the convenience of the State?

...And for the profit of the executioners....

For the last 50 years or so, the Catholic church has looked the other way on abortion rights. It fears losing it's congregations. Thus making Catholic Church as complicit in this modern butchery as the State it refuses to resist. I would include most Protestant faiths, and the Jewish community, any and all who tacitly abide by the rules of the State out of fear or complacency.

….He was an enemy of the State....

A nation that eats its young is not long for this world. Even outside of religion, such butchery is in-humane. And any State ,secular or religions, that more than condones the practice but unbelievably promotes it, will suffer for it's lowered value of life.

Insanely, Progressives would have us believe they are always concerned for the children. How does that square with Eugenicist Margaret Sanger's plan? We are cheapening life if we believe it is good for our society to so painfully remove our progeny.

Are they really enemies of the State?

I personally know a Gynecologists who has been practicing for over 40 years. He tells me that he has never, repeat never, seen a late term pregnancy threaten a mother's life that did not have a medical solution with a virtually guaranteed good outcome. There are many ways to save mom AND the child. The choice to murder her child need not ever be one of them.

I ask this,,,; In a nation that agonizes over the execution by putting the heinous criminal painlessly, but forever, to sleep. Done only after 12 of their peers and a series of judges concur, how can the State give one woman the power to do the pronounce the excruciating and painful execution as was done to William Wallace?
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Some may be wondering why the recent spat of pro late term abortion legislation. Why so soon, so fast and so evil.

My take on it is one name.

Justice Brett Kavanaugh

The left wants to put Poe v Wade before him in this test.

There is a second name of importance here; Justice Ruth Ginsberg. The fight over her replacement is gonna be fierce. The left will demand "balance on the court." The President will demand constitutional competence.

I don't believe there is a middle ground.
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Today Fox News asked Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez what she thought of Roe v Wade. She said, she thought it was two ways one could cross a river.
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Nothing AOC says along with some other freshman dims surprises me any more!! The dim presidential candidates seem to be in a mad race to the left except Booker. To me he is the reincarnation of BO. A man with a way with words that sound so soothing yet are not true. It will be interesting to see how he fares against the flaming idiots.
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