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Ethanol could fuel food riots

muleman

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Clinton: Too much ethanol could spark food riots

By MARY CLARE JALONICK Associated Press
Posted: 02/25/2011 04:40:42 AM EST


WASHINGTON—With global food prices rising and more corn being diverted to the production of ethanol fuel, Bill Clinton is warning of food riots in poor nations. The former president told farmers and Agriculture Department employees on Thursday that while producing biofuels is important for reducing America's dependence on foreign oil, farmers should also look beyond domestic production and consider the needs of developing countries.
"I think the best thing to say is we have to become energy independent, but we don't want to do it at the cost of food riots," Clinton said.
Clinton's foundation has worked to develop agribusiness in African countries such as Malawi and Rwanda. He said the United States needs to look at the long term, global effects of its farm policy.
"We know that the way we produce and consume energy has to change, yet for farmers there are no simple answers," he said. "There is a way for us to do this and to do it right."
At the department's annual Agricultural Outlook Forum, chief economist Joseph Glauber said food prices are expected to rise this year and corn use for ethanol will continue to grow. He said 37 percent of all U.S. corn production could be used for ethanol by 2012.
The ethanol industry long has said that its production does not significantly drive up food prices and that the price of corn contributes to a tiny percentage of every food dollar.
"The driver behind rising food prices has been
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and remains oil," said Matt Hartwig of the ethanol industry group Renewable Fuels Association. "Rising oil prices, even before the unrest in the Middle East and Northern Africa, have made everything we buy from food to clothes to oil more expensive." Other industries have contended that ethanol contributes to food price spikes, affecting their bottom lines and consumers, too.
After years of subsidizing ethanol production, Congress has taken an increasingly skeptical look at the fuel as food prices have fluctuated and cutting spending has become a legislative priority.
More than $5 billion in ethanol tax credits were extended at the end of last year as a part of an end-of-session tax deal. But the new Republican House passed two amendments to a spending bill last weekend that would attempt to slow ethanol use.
Even longtime supporters of ethanol in Congress have acknowledged that the country's mood may mean less support for the ethanol industry.
Glauber said that corn-based ethanol production is currently running at more than 13 billion gallons a year. Congress has required refiners to blend 36 billion gallons of biofuels, much of it ethanol, into auto fuel by 2022.
 

rugerman

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Now you know that all politicians are only there to help us and they have great long term vision. What they are really trying to do with the ethanol is stimulate the economy. You see they knew long ago that if you mix ethanol and gas that it will eventually eat up the seals in motors of stuff like lawn mowers, weedeaters, chain saws, etc. This will lead to people having to buy new stuff to replace the old at a faster rate thus stimulating the economy. Now don't you feel foolish. Look at how well the cash for clunkers worked and all those gun buy backs. Yep those boys in Washington DC are all working to help us out, now we just have to learn to blindly follow and not question their brilliance
 

Danang Sailor

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Ethanol is a GREAT fuel idea, but making it from food is idiotic! It can be made more cheaply (read: no subsidies) and without disturbing any food chains if it is made from saw grass. This stuff is not only cheaper to process into ethanol, growing it is nearly cost free. Throw a couple of handfuls of seed on the side of a field and then get out of the way! Any farmer that has had to deal with a saw grass infestation can verify how quickly it can take over acreage.

It is the correct answer to the problem. And incidentally, one that G. W. Bush recommended in a State of the Union address! Maybe he isn't as dumb as some folks think.

 

muleman

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DS, I don't think the sawgrass will catch on until ADM or Monsanto or some other major player figures out how to corner the market on seed!:whistling:
 

XeVfTEUtaAqJHTqq

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DS, I don't think the sawgrass will catch on until ADM or Monsanto or some other major player figures out how to corner the market on seed!:whistling:

And then they will buy there way into the market through D.C. lobbyists that force this shit on the lowly consumer.

What a bunch of morons. Hey farmers, don't sell your crop for the most amount of money possible, you farmers should "think beyond profit" and do what's "right". Of course, the fucking sole sucking politicians that created the market for ethanol in the first place share no blame. Especially, politicians like Clinton's ole butt buddy Gore.

Fucking useless morons.

I feel a little better now but it won't last long.
 

Cowboy

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And then they will buy there way into the market through D.C. lobbyists that force this shit on the lowly consumer.

What a bunch of morons. Hey farmers, don't sell your crop for the most amount of money possible, you farmers should "think beyond profit" and do what's "right". Of course, the fucking sole sucking politicians that created the market for ethanol in the first place share no blame. Especially, politicians like Clinton's ole butt buddy Gore.

Fucking useless morons.

I feel a little better now but it won't last long.


But how do you really feel PB . :yum:
 

muleman

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Sawgrass could be grown on the millions of acres in the crep program and other land the government pays folks not to farm. We piss away more money trying to manipulate the commodity markets and all it does is enrichen the speculators and corporate farms. let the market run free and prices and supply will adjust as they naturally should. Fluctuations are a normal part of trade. Subsidizing an industry is unnatural and screws the taxpayer numerous times.
 
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