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UK plans to decentralize universal health care!

Melensdad

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Obama/Pelosi/Reid must be rolling over in their graves!!! It appears that as we rush blindly into centralizing our healthcare, the UK is getting set to take power away from the centralized system bring it down to local controls.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/25/world/europe/25britain.html?_r=2&hp
Britain Plans to Decentralize National Health Care
By SARAH LYALL
Published: July 24, 2010

LONDON — Perhaps the only consistent thing about Britain’s socialized health care system is that it is in a perpetual state of flux, its structure constantly changing as governments search for the elusive formula that will deliver the best care for the cheapest price while costs and demand escalate.

Even as the new coalition government said it would make enormous cuts in the public sector, it initially promised to leave health care alone. But in one of its most surprising moves so far, it has done the opposite, proposing what would be the most radical reorganization of the National Health Service, as the system is called, since its inception in 1948.

Practical details of the plan are still sketchy. But its aim is clear: to shift control of England’s $160 billion annual health budget from a centralized bureaucracy to doctors at the local level. Under the plan, $100 billion to $125 billion a year would be meted out to general practitioners, who would use the money to buy services from hospitals and other health care providers.

The plan would also shrink the bureaucratic apparatus...

The health secretary, Andrew Lansley, also promised to put more power in the hands of patients...
 

mak2

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No big deal. I threw the F in there because the other day every one was saying FFS. No BFD.
 

Melensdad

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Really, this is no BFD, as they say.

Actually it is a monumental shift in ideology.

There are basically 2 trains of thought in control. Centralized power and non-centralized power. To change from one to the other is a dramatic change.
 

Melensdad

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Oops, looks like there is more bad news on the horizon for ObamaCare.

Germany's Socialized Health-Care System Isn't Working - WSJ.com

The Stressed German Model

It took the Germans 125 years to figure out that their health-care system doesn't work.

Germany's health-care system was brought to life in 1883 by Otto von Bismarck and became the model for virtually every such state-directed national insurance plan since. Alas, the German system is starting to come apart at the financial seams. Germany's system relies on a handful of state-supported health insurers. This week they informed the government that the system was on the brink of a financial shortfall equal to nearly $11 billion.

Pointedly, the insurers made clear that cutbacks alone won't solve the problem. They said the government would have to consider raising premiums on the insured or, you guessed it, raise taxes. Currently, German workers pay a fixed-rate premium into the insurance scheme; that rate is now set at 14.9% of gross pay.

Chancellor Merkel, something of a political acrobat, was previously allied in coalition with leftist Social Democrats. She's now resisting calls from the Free Democrats to get off the state-pulled health-care train. The FDP's spokesman on health, Daniel Bahr, wants a "shift in direction away from state-run medicine." Why? Because "the current financial figures have showed us that the health-care fund doesn't work."

With Congress inching ever closer to passing a greater federal presence in providing health insurance under ObamaCare, let's hope it doesn't take the U.S. until the year 2134 to figure out it isn't working.
 

muleman

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Since Obummer wants us to be like Europe maybe we can back off on our great idea and get some reasonable health reform.
 

mak2

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OK when the UK or Germany calls Palin or the RWers for advice I will pay attention. Until then, carry on.
 

SShepherd

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ah, I see....

so thcurrent group of liberals, who are so in love with europe and their way of doing things (they keep bringing up hoe better te rest of the world is) hear that the grass isn't greener??

oh, wait......"green jobs" and cap and trade didn't work in spain either, but they still tried to ram that down our throats.

amazing how their rose colored glasses have no ability to see reality:glare:
 

Melensdad

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OK when the UK or Germany calls Palin or the RWers for advice I will pay attention. Until then, carry on.

I'm pretty sure they already contacted her, she apparently set them straight, and now they are taking the baby steps to undo their failures. :flowers:
 

mak2

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She is hot, as they say, just not too bright, or she lies. I guess being dumb is more honorable.
 

muleman

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