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CA Gov. Newsom signs executive order banning sale of new gas and diesel vehicles by

Jim_S

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CA Gov. Newsom signs executive order banning sale of new gas and diesel vehicles by 2035
Posted by Leslie Eastman Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 9:00pm

Sure to feed the exodus from California.

https://legalinsurrection.com/2020/...of-new-gas-and-diesel-vehicles-by-2035//#more

California’s businesses are struggling to recover for prolonged pandemic shutdowns. Its citizens are battling the effects of wildfires and power outages.

Sensible state political leaders would take these extreme emergencies as an opportunity to look how other similarly sized states (e.g., Florida and Texas) are handling public health and land use issues, and revise their plans to include policies and procedures that actually work.

However, nobody who has followed California politics for any length of time will claim Governor Gavin Newsom is sensible about anything not involving the obtaining and retaining of power. He has just signed an executive order on Monday that aims to ban the sale of new internal combustion engine cars in the state by 2035.

The order directs the California Air Resources Board to develop a phase-out plan that would require 100 percent zero-emissions personal use and dryage vehicles by 2035 and as many medium-duty and heavy-duty vehicle applications deemed feasible by 2045.

“Pull away from the gas pumps,” Newsom said. “Let us no longer be victims of geopolitical dictators that manipulate global supply chains and global markets.”

California is both the largest new car market in the U.S., with 1.8 million vehicle sales in 2019, and also accounts for the most electric car purchases of any state.

Newsom’s order does not ban people from owning gas-powered cars or selling them on the used car market. It simply ends the sales of all new gasoline-powered passenger cars and trucks in the state of nearly 40 million people (at least that’s the current number).

The automotive industry had been working to increase the market share of electric cars, and had not anticipated this doubling down on green justice policies from Newsom.

Jessica Caldwell, executive director of insights at the Edmunds.com auto pricing site, said Newsom’s announcement “does seem like this is a significant shot fired against” the internal combustion engine.

She expects the California announcement to trigger high-level meetings at all the auto companies which were moving toward electric vehicles but didn’t expect a zero-emissions mandate in 15 years. Automakers may have to rethink manufacturing and capital spending plans because of the mandate, she said.

Many Californians are pointing out both the poor timing and the poor policy.

Lynn VP 62
@LynnVP621
I so wish I could touch Loser Newsom just to feel what stupid feels like. He wants to ban gas car by 2035. Our grid can't handle the loads now, imagine adding electric cars to it!! #RecallGavin2020
4:52 PM · Sep 23, 2020

Andrew
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I have a cheaper and more reasonable plan . lets just ban all democrats and socialist in calif. it will be cheaper and less headaches. Ban the governor now.why wait .California Gov. Newsom executive order bans gas, diesel cars by 2035

Louie (fiery but mostly peaceful) Huey
@reallouiehuey
Gavin Newsom signed an EO to ban gas powered cars by 2035.

They are already turning off the electricity to their own citizens now.

What do you think is going to happen when all cars are electric?

?*♂️
3:52 PM · Sep 23, 2020

Many Californians aren’t going to wait until 2035 to respond to the Governor’s latest decree.

A poll conducted late 2019 by the University of California at Berkeley found more than half of California voters have given ‘serious’ or ‘some’ consideration to leaving due to the high cost of housing, heavy taxation, or political culture.

According to Census data in 2018 more than 86,000 people left California for Texas, nearly 70,000 left for Arizona and about 55,000 left for Washington, according to NBC.

For those who don’t wish to move, perhaps the Recall Gavin Newsom effort might be their best hope.

A statewide campaign that’s underway to remove Gov. Gavin Newsom from office has an enthusiastic presence in Shasta and Siskiyou counties.

Two previous recall efforts weren’t successful but the regional manager in charge of collecting signatures in nine Northern California counties says the organization has better experience this time around.
 

FrancSevin

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While he is at such foolishness, why not sign an executive order than green energy must be plentiful and free.

Windmills, solar panels and unicorn farts are all free right?
 

Doc

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Seems like a political move for temporary gain of support for him by the progressives out there. An easy way around that is to buy a car from a neighboring state, plus cars on sold and delivered to your door step via the internet now. Who knows how that will be in 2035. Plus there is plenty of time for whoever is in power in the 2030's to repeal or change this law if they want.
 

FrancSevin

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Seems like a political move for temporary gain of support for him by the progressives out there. An easy way around that is to buy a car from a neighboring state, plus cars on sold and delivered to your door step via the internet now. Who knows how that will be in 2035. Plus there is plenty of time for whoever is in power in the 2030's to repeal or change this law if they want.


A governor's EO expires at the end of his term. But those Kalifornica fools will re-elect him or someone just as lefty and just as shifty.

But I repeat myself.
 

waybomb

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Back in the 90s I lived in California. The power lines were so overloaded then, they were drooping to within feet of the ground. I do not believe any major power generation has been installed other than some solar. Probably need at least 20 nukes to make all the power to recharge millions of cars.
 

m1west

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I live in Ca. Newsome has put more Co2 into the atmosphere with the wild fires caused by banning deforestation and not cleaning the forests of under growth than 10 years of emissions. I don't want to hear any more of his bullshit on the environment. Between Newsome in ca., Oregon and Washington all Dim states they have a carbon footprint this year from the fires that it would take 100 years for cars and trucks to accomplish. Hell the fu<king fires in Portland and Seattle from the rioters are not carbon free either and you can't even light you're fireplace legally 2/3 of the time. Fu<k Newsom, Fu<k the Dims and Fu<k political correctness! ( correct for who? sure as hell not me.)
 

Snowtrac Nome

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so on a very real note what will happen to the gazillion gas station owners both the company opps and independent dealers. I suppose if you spend a lifetime building a business to sell off for retirement you are just f--ked. secondly their grid cant support the electrical load now how the h-ll do they plan to run all them car chargers. That guy must have thought god said trains when standing line for brains, and said I will take a box car.
 

FrancSevin

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so on a very real note what will happen to the gazillion gas station owners both the company opps and independent dealers. I suppose if you spend a lifetime building a business to sell off for retirement you are just f--ked. secondly their grid cant support the electrical load now how the h-ll do they plan to run all them car chargers. That guy must have thought god said trains when standing line for brains, and said I will take a box car.

Ask sleepy Joe Biden,,,;
They can all get training to be computer programmers and compete with out of work Virginia miners for those jobs.
 

XeVfTEUtaAqJHTqq

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That state needs to be split up (along with Oregon and Washington). Let the Democrats ruin their cities. I would vote for splitting them up right out of the union - they can go be their own country.
 
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