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Corona Virus spreading ... US official says no need to worry
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Bad news in our County.
There's a nursing home with about 450 residents + 300 staff. They're now presuming and working under the assumption that all residents and staff now have the virus.
450???
My God.
This isn't the first I've heard about the importance of the deep breathing and keeping the airway open.
https://www.chonday.com/40022/docto...-lifesaving-corona-virus-breathing-technique/
Video here.
https://www.chonday.com/40022/docto...-lifesaving-corona-virus-breathing-technique/
After my accident I had a large amount of fluid on my lungs. They had me doing the deep breathing exercises but I couldn't lay on my stomach due to it being cut open from the ribs to the pelvic area and stapled shut.
I like the idea of the paper towels in the coffee canister but it won't work. The towels will dry out because there is nothing over the top of it. Capillary action.
Probably better to just pop the lid completely and pull a towel out of the center of the roll.
Probably....
Some of my nurse pals and I are going to start sipping the Schwepp's and upping our nutritional supps.
I already take a good one, but am going to add a C, zinc and D combo.
Some of my nurse pals and I are going to start sipping the Schwepp's and upping our nutritional supps.
I already take a good one, but am going to add a C, zinc and D combo.
My wife put us on a Zinc supplement called ZMA about 3 weeks ago. Vitamin B6, Magnesium and 200% of Zinc each day.
Works great, I guess, but my complexion has changed to this galvanized metal like look. Not sure if this is normal or not. :th_lmao:
I don't understand the director of the CDC.
On Monday, he said the numbers are going to be much lower re: deaths.
Prior to that, way before that we were getting very high number predictions.
From the FDA commissioner too.
Is this how it's played?
Start high, then say see what we did there, we worked on getting those numbers lowered by golly!
I don't trust them one bit!
There's been a manipulation in stats from the get-go.
Just my opinion.
On Monday, he said the numbers are going to be much lower re: deaths.
Prior to that, way before that we were getting very high number predictions.
From the FDA commissioner too.
Is this how it's played?
Start high, then say see what we did there, we worked on getting those numbers lowered by golly!
I don't trust them one bit!
There's been a manipulation in stats from the get-go.
Just my opinion.
Our local chain supermarket, Chief.. is now saying any shopping customers must be wearing a mask before entering the store.
The store is going to be watched by reps throughout to make sure shoppers walk in one direction, 6 feet apart, limited time in the store too.
I'm all up for that.
The store is going to be watched by reps throughout to make sure shoppers walk in one direction, 6 feet apart, limited time in the store too.
I'm all up for that.
Bannedjoe
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I don't trust anything or anybody anymore, and haven't for a long time, and I don't even watch the news.
I just find it so surprising that we live in the information age, and so much of it can't be trusted.
Seriously, what's the point?
I think that your opinion is exactly right.
I may be a born sceptic but I don't take any of these so called "experts" at face value. The gnome of all knowledge, Dr. Fauci, has been so wrong on a lot of this shit that it's reached the point that I don't know if he is worth listening to or not. I think that it's probably "NOT". Anyone who spends his life in the hollowed halls of research probably isn't a reliable source for dealing with real life problems, knowledge perhaps but solutions NO. That's just my skeptical opinion.
Mathematical models are fun but, at best, they just give you general trends. Anyone who is willing to bet their life on one is an idiot. Now, 5 years from now, when the data has been gathered, refined, massaged and interpolated, they might get close to what actually happened on the ground but that's a little late for use as an analytical tool.
PG, when I saw that the data they were putting in to their model was coming from China and Iran among other places, the first thing that went through my mind was that this is going to be fucked up. Okay, I've already said that I'm a sceptic.
I used to do the same thing in business. If I said that a particular project was going to cost $20M and I brought it in for $17M, I was a hero. You couldn't do that too often or it became obvious but on occasion it worked wonderfully. It's all bullshit.
Jeez, I really am a sceptic, am I not?
Clearly manipulation. All major media sources played the same game. Obviously the N95 mask directions in February, basically saying only health professionals need those, was a lie. Even saying that wearing the basics cloth masks was unnecessary was a lie, largely because if people knew those were almost worthless then they would hoard the N95 masks.
So many other lies, all spread by the major media sources.
In Germany they allow 2 people per aisle in the grocery store where my cousin shops. Masks everywhere. Lines outside. Limits of people going inside. 1 comes out, a new customer goes in. Sneeze shields and marks on the floor to protect cashiers and shoppers.
My oldest son is calling this the plannedemic.
I've noticed that word appearing here and there. What ETF said about mathematical models reminds me of all the controversy over climate models.
Mike
Plannedemic, yes that sums it up nicely.
The proof is in the pudding. Just look at the media "Jihad" to discredit HCQ just because Trump mentioned it. A cheap, readily available drug comes to light that shows promise to help alleviate or eliminate ones COVID symptoms and immediately the media attacks both the drug and Trump. The media wants a lot of us to die and does not want Trump to get any credit for alleviating people's suffering. The media and the leftists want us to die and want this country to die. There can be no doubt about that.
NBC, Universal and Comcast, which is run by communist leftists, have a huge financial stake in China. Look it up. They side with China against the American people for money.
Read my sig line. It says it all.
The proof is in the pudding. Just look at the media "Jihad" to discredit HCQ just because Trump mentioned it. A cheap, readily available drug comes to light that shows promise to help alleviate or eliminate ones COVID symptoms and immediately the media attacks both the drug and Trump. The media wants a lot of us to die and does not want Trump to get any credit for alleviating people's suffering. The media and the leftists want us to die and want this country to die. There can be no doubt about that.
NBC, Universal and Comcast, which is run by communist leftists, have a huge financial stake in China. Look it up. They side with China against the American people for money.
Read my sig line. It says it all.
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TR, we disagree on a lot of stuff but we are on the same page on this one.
I've said a lot on here about HCQ and it's side effects, some of which can be ugly but the rabid media frenzy against it is shocking. They say that it is unproven, the sample size was too small to mean anything, the evidence in anecdotal. Well, let me put it like this. It is a well proven and approved drug, just not for this purpose. Most of the side effects come on with extended use which would not be the case here. If you have a hundred people in your test study and one shows improvement by it's use, isn't that a good thing? Isn't helping one person survive a lot better than sitting around doing nothing, with your thumb up your butt. I don't understand the opposition to using it.
Your advice to follow the money is also correct. I read an article yesterday about Universal Studios building a billion dollar theme park in China in partnership with the Chinese Government. They can't criticize the Chinese Government through their media outlets or the Chinese might shut down the building of the park. That's a lot of money to lose.
All of that is true.
But it shows promise. A large study should have already been started because there is plenty of anecdotal evidence to show its promise. We need to know a lot more. Clearly it appears to work for many.
We know that 80% of the people who get Covid require little more than Tylenol.
We know that roughly 16% need medical help, and now its looking like 8% need hospitalization.
But what we don't know is how many of the 80% got HCQ and actually never needed it.
We also don't know of the roughly 8% who need hospitalization have gotten it and recovered, probably because of it.
We need to figure out if this is a cure!
I started wondering why NBC/Universal/Comca$t was acting like a special kind of stupid. Different than CNN, but still stupid. Then I came across that theme park you mentioned and the final pieces of the puzzle started to fall into place. I mentioned it to my wife and she said yes, Trump mentioned it yesterday in his presser. Aha, so now Donald has a hold of it and talking about it. Given his penchant for hanging on to something like a dog with a rat by the neck, it will get mentioned over and over.
Yup, many folks over the years have disagreed with old TR. Many times they were proven right, many times not. At any rate, it is what makes life so grand, else we all dress the same and drive the same vehicles and all vote the same.
Not much fun in that now is there?
Pennsylvania has joined Kansas and Virginia in closing all K-12 schools for the remainder of the school year. My son who's a senior is jubilant. I did tell him he'll be dumb as a box of rocks when he starts at Penn State in the fall. He said "I know but so will everyone else."
So in essence these times are desperate enough to inflict all these draconian measures upon the American people, costing them their jobs, businesses, depleted their retirement accounts, farmers are plowing fruit and vegetables into the ground because their market has been destroyed, yet the situation is not critical enough to give folks HCQ, a drug that has been around since 1955. The agenda is ruling the day.
You're not being pessimistic. You are being a realist. This whole thing is agenda driven. They knew from the beginning the toll would not be as bad as they were conveying. The models were flawed from the beginning and they know it.
Now the "experts" say the models are only as good as the info being put into them. Well, hell, the experts were the ones feeding the bullshit into them from the beginning. Now they come up with some half baked phony excuse why they are wrong.
Mark my words well. If the Dems win in November all this goes away. If Trump wins, which is likely, the misery continues throughout the winter into next year. This is the agenda.
Here is a website with a moving chart showing average daily causes of death in the US vs Covid 19
https://public.flourish.studio/visu...amStgNesvBMl3RmOW-g6kd-ulxFQYWdf75WUH5D19rvqY
https://public.flourish.studio/visu...amStgNesvBMl3RmOW-g6kd-ulxFQYWdf75WUH5D19rvqY
So I got thinking about that graph. The "average" Covid number at the end is one of the higher death toll days. It's not really an average like the other numbers are. Won't be able to have an "average" until it's over or at least been a while so the numbers could be broken into months or weeks or something that makes the Covid numbers more related to the other numbers.
I read that the other, older numbers come from "our world in data". which if I remember is a CIA site.
I read that the other, older numbers come from "our world in data". which if I remember is a CIA site.
So onto some grim news. This has been mentioned but now seems to be getting some scientific study by the South Korean medical system. We have mostly heard about reinfection in China, but we know that China has zero credibility when it comes to reporting disease data. South Korea, on the other hand, has been very transparent about their Covid situation and their medical system has shared information freely with other developed nations so we will get good data.
The question is, are these REINFECTIONS of people who fully recovered or are they RELAPSES of people who have not fully recovered?
The question is, are these REINFECTIONS of people who fully recovered or are they RELAPSES of people who have not fully recovered?
My daughter, who teaches high school in Va, tells me that out of her assigned home school class of 50, only 6 are participating.
Sadly, come next September, these six will be so far ahead of the remainder that they will need to be dumbed down to keep the class somewhat level, and all will be graded as if they had been in school for the past fee months.