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Default SNOW TRAC WHEELS - help me find parts

As a new owner of Snow Trac from North West Greece in a small town Florina, hello everybody in the Forum.
Nikolaos Speaking. I bought a Snow Trac ST4 1503, (1971 year) so i began to rest orate, and i need help and advise. My Snow trac is Running, mechanically is in good condition.
This Snow Trac it belong to an Electricity Company here in Greece, until 1980.

Fist the rear wheel is completely damaged, so i need one new, or used but in good condition Trelleborg 600X 100 6 ply (Tire and tube).
I need also 4 boogie wheels Trelleborg 400X 4 6ply (Tire and Tube).
Can somebody tell me if where can i find the parts.
If i don't find anything, the Aero Classic 400X4,1, (for the small ones) and the Good Year 4,5 X 1,6 NHS 6 ply, or the Alpine 4,5 X16 (For the large Wheel) are the right type of wheels for the SNOW TRAC.
Next step is to replace the 3 section design trac with the large wheel. I need a dimensional drawing pattern- for the crawler tracks.
The elastic belts how many reinforced inserts must have?

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Old 09-28-2011, 11:39 AM
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christer@klovsjo.com is your best bet at http://www.klovsjo.com/snowtrac/
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on the rear tires you can use a street tread motorcycle tire the composit wheels are a motor cycle rim with an aluminum slug installed the little tires are aircraft tail wheel sizes good luck nice looking st that one has the ambulance door in the rear
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Hi Nikos! Welcome to our internet off topic forums.

Good pics. That's a nice looking snow trac you got there.
Do you get much snow?
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HI: Welcome to the Forum. Nice ST4! No one even noticed that it's the AMBULANCE MODEL! CHRISTER, ON THE BIG TIRE AND RIM. You might want to tighten(Tension) that track up a bit or it will de-track. I like the Orange paint too.
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HI: Welcome to the Forum. Nice ST4! No one even noticed that it's the AMBULANCE MODEL! CHRISTER, ON THE BIG TIRE AND RIM. You might want to tighten(Tension) that track up a bit or it will de-track. I like the Orange paint too.
your wrong lyndon look at my post
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Doc, Greece is not only for summer vocation, and fun - dancing in the islands.
In my place the snow fault in the mountains on December, until April.
We have 2 center Ski,and also names for the snow, such as Dry, sugar, salt, hard, cold. The mountains round the area are 2100 m - 2450 meter high.
The temperature in the Winter in Florina city, gets - 5 to -20 C.
Doc the Winter, is part of our life's, i like to feel to see, the changes in every season, the summer, the spring, but the ST4 is the right transform to get saved (Ambulance) inside the winter.
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I noticed the lack of vents in the engine hood .Fist one I've seen .
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good point where is the air comming from to cool the engine
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dds and JimVT Look at the pic. The vents for engine hood for the air to cool the machine, are in the front, in the same place as the others ST4.
The last pics because the sun light, (no shadows) we can,t see the shapes with the different forms of the vents.
The designer has change the way of travel air from the vents.
The way of the air is oposit, in front the windows.
Here is the pic with the machine and the vents from inside.
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Have you repainted the snowtrac in orange or was that how you bought it? I suspect its original colour would have been red.
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Ice Qeen you are right. The original color for the ST4 is RED ok.
The orange was the color for the operate Recognative vehicles in the Electricity company here in Greece. The previous owner had refress the ST4 with the "original " color of the company. Probably he did not know the international simiotic RED color of ST4, and in his mind the orange was the "original".
For me I prefer the RED with the white collor in the top with the graffics ok
But in the forum i did not see any orange ST4.
Only the Tuckers and some 1404 IMP. That makes my ST4 unique.
This hapent because the simiotic colors (RED or ORANGE) have deferents meaning in some countries. Example the White color in Japan has other meaning than in Europe, or U.S.
And also there were so many operative ST4 in many countries ( England, France, Italy, etc ) without the original red color.
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Guys Thanks for the informations. I found the small boogies from an Italian Aircraft Industry. Now i ll try to find the large one.
First lay out the belts and i try to change- replace the track belt.
I think the big problem is there, with the 480 holes per side, and also how many reinforced inserts must have the elastic belt
I send Pics to see some others differences (doors - instruments , lock case e.t.c).
The glass of the Window is in the floor, because the case infront of the door was broken and the door open from inside (open Window).
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I noticed you still have the gas heater. Most of us have scrapped them.
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in this pic we can see the rear flat tire in ST4. The previous owner put on a motorcicle Wheel (no insert and ply reinforced) and thats why the tire was completly damaged.
Can someone tell me about where can i find original Trelleborg 600X100 ?

OR informations How it works (the size between tire- rim) in

a) the Alpine Guide 4,5 X16 6 PLY
b) Goodyear 4,5 X16 NHS 6 PLY
c) Continental T9 SIZE 4.00 -16 AS Front.

Are these types of tires right for the ST4 ? Any address and post?

what about the composit wheel, any informations ?

Guys in U.S.A and Europe do you Know anything about the GREEN REVOLUTION from GREECE TECHNOLOGIE called DEFKALION?
Maybe my ST4 will be the first ST4 with this technology.
Hydrogen + Nicelium. NO GAS ANYMORE.
http://www.defkalion-energy.com/
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to the best of my knowlage none of the 6 bolt wheels were composite you are better off with the steel wheels
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hi Nikos i have st4/1575.had no look finding correct tires.but have fitted two tires at the back. off BMW space saver spare wheel.continental 115/90/16. these are only single ply.but run high psi.cheep at scrap yards maybe better hard foam filled.most of weight is on the front wheels.i fitted puncher proof mobility scooter tires also cheep second hand.ps Iam in England.
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Hi Jim :Great idea
10 points for Englandreally !!!!!!!!! for your suggestion.You are great on.
Look what i find in my garage A BMW continental 115/90/16 Now i have to buy another one for the other rear side, and then i replace the original Trelleborg. Olny to have a back up, if something happent in the Front wheels.
Next step is to foam fill both of the 115/90 continentnal tires.
Thanks again JIM. Your opinion was so appreciable
Jim, if you pleased sent me a pic of yours small boogie tires, (to see the type scooter foam fill tires). I have a close relation with the scooters as you can see.
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What BMW is that wheel out of? It looks like it may be a good one to modify to use on my snowtrac.
I am not sure what pictures you want.
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Jim VT sorry for the misunderstanding, i ask SnowTracJIM from England to send me a pic of his Army ST4 (with the boogie scooter foam fill Wheels). If you read the threads below, you can see the facts. Also the congratulations are for everybody here in this Forum, because the level of the Knowledge and the experience that we share out, is the basic cause of this interactive approach, for the progress - Restoration and presentation of the projects in Snow cats.

But Jim VT the BMW foam fill Wheel is a very good solution, because you can find this product - TIRES everywhere, in any country with BMW cars. I think this tire has 3 ply, and it's run in high speed. Thats why i ask Snowtrack JIM to sent pictures to see the total instalation in his Army ST4 in England.
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