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Ron Paul is a Useful Man for Democrats

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Interesting article. Whether it be a hit piece or not it is interesting:

November 19, 2007
Ron Paul is a Useful Man for Democrats

By Andrew Walden


[FONT=times new roman,times]The Ron Paul story never seems to end -- and yet never seems to quite make it into the mainstream media. That's because, in the political equivalent of a bank shot, Paul's fringe support helps bleach embarrassing stains from the Democrats.[/FONT]


[FONT=times new roman,times]First there is the revelation that [/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times]Jim C Perry, the "Orthodox Jewish" head of "Jews for Paul" also calls himself a gay pagan Unitarian[/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times].[/FONT]


[FONT=times new roman,times]Now it turns out that Perry, Paul's point man in response to questions raised by the Jewish Telegraph Agency, is also [/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times]accused of stealing money[/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times] from the local New Hampshire branch of the Libertarian Party. What a great guy! It's only an accusation. And the "Libertarian" Perry was in 2006 running for New Hampshire [/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times]Legislature as a Democrat[/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times]. [/FONT]


[FONT=times new roman,times]Oh yes: [/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times]Then the[/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times] federal [/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times]raids started[/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times]. [/FONT]


[FONT=times new roman,times]It turns out that some folks actually buy-in to Ron Paul's blither about US dollars being "phony money". [/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times]Here Paul is[/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times] talking about "phony money" at a [/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times]recent Ron Paul[/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times] rally outside the Philadelphia Mint with a large crowd including -- surprise, surprise, -- some more white supremacists. (Who show they [/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times]fully understand[/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times] the [/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times]New Orleans protocol[/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times].)[/FONT]


[FONT=times new roman,times]Some of Paul's gold bug supporters been trying to pass so-called "Liberty Dollars" off as real currency at stores nationwide. Sleepy clerks have given them change in US currency for purchases. Raids have been conducted in the last few days by the FBI and Secret Service at Liberty Dollar HQ in a strip mall office in [/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times]Evansville, Indiana[/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times], (that's not where I would be keeping three pounds of gold, but I digress) as well as Asheville, NC (here the segregationist ‘[/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times]Council of Conservative Citizens'[/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times] is very concerned) and a private mint located [/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times]in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho[/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times]. [/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times]Arrests were also made recently in Wisconsin[/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times] (on their blogsite, these geniuses detail three places where the spent Liberty Dollars as if they were legal tender). [/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times]In 2006[/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times] two arrests had been made [/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times]in Buffalo, NY.[/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times] The Evanston raid netted a huge load of "Ron Paul Dollars" apparently just delivered from Idaho and backed perhaps by the full faith and credit of... Ron Paul?[/FONT]


[FONT=times new roman,times]Ron Paul's Evanston supporters went to Liberty Dollar HQ to protest with Ron Paul-for-president signs. At the Evansville Ron Paul site one of [/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times]their leaders explains the defense strategy:[/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times] [/FONT]

[FONT=times new roman,times]"I sent an email to [/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times]infowars.com[/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times], so with any luck we'll make it on [/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times]prisonplanet.com[/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times] and go viral. If nothing else should come of this, maybe the LD can get a case before the Supreme Court and settle once and for all and maybe Ron Paul's name will be on more people's minds and lips." [/FONT]
[FONT=times new roman,times]And, yes Ron Paul donor 9-11 "troother" [/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times]Alex Jones did[/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times] post it. And it did go ‘viral'. But no that doesn't mean the 9-11 "troothers" are integral to the Ron Paul campaign because ...uh...uh... (insert Paulite rationalization here). [/FONT]


[FONT=times new roman,times]Meanwhile over at Reason Magazine, they seem to have lost all of theirs. Writes Jeff Taylor: [/FONT]

[FONT=times new roman,times]"As such, [/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times]accounts[/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times] of the (Evansville) raid [/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times]focused on[/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times] the Ron Paul angle seem off-base, at least given the available facts." [/FONT]
[FONT=times new roman,times]Sure, just close your eyes and it will all go away. Let yourself get sucked down the toilet with the frauds, and scammers. Reason wants us to believe that Ron Paul has absolutely nothing to do with Ron Paul dollars. But Paul's "troother" supporters believe that George Bush and ‘the Jooos' personally crawled through the ductwork at the World Trade Center to wire the explosives for controlled detonation. [/FONT]


[FONT=times new roman,times]Apparently they didn't [/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times]get the message at the Daily Paul[/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times]. Their response to the raid: [/FONT]

[FONT=times new roman,times]"This is pretty scary stuff and reminiscent of a time in Germany...I wonder if the motivation was our wonderful $4.3M day?"[/FONT]
[FONT=times new roman,times]The Street[/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times] writes; [/FONT]

[FONT=times new roman,times]"...if the raid results in the conviction of anyone involved, it is possible that the Paul campaign may have to return a cash donation made by Liberty Dollar....So far, Liberty Dollar has donated $2,300 to the Paul campaign, a fact confirmed by both Paul's [/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times]office[/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times] and Bernard von NotHaus, who runs Liberty Dollar." [/FONT]
[FONT=times new roman,times]No connection there?[/FONT]


[FONT=times new roman,times]No tough questions for Paul, but plenty of fluff. [/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times]Rolling Stone writes:[/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times] "Republican takes the lead against the war." This comes after [/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times]Bill Maher physically[/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times] chased "troothers" from his studio audience October 19 shouting "out, out, out" and [/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times]Bill Clinton stared down troother hecklers[/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times] October 24 with: "An inside job? How dare you?" [/FONT]


[FONT=times new roman,times]The Democrats and their media are using the Paul campaign to scrape six years of accumulated "toother" scum off the Democrat Party, deposit it into the Libertarian movement make a little mess for the GOP. [/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times]With Obama, Hillary and Edwards all refusing to promise to withdraw troops from Iraq by 2013[/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times] Democrats dream of losing the "surrender monkey" tag. [/FONT]
[FONT=times new roman,times]Here is a Chicago Tribune fluff piece[/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times] with this gem of verbal judo: [/FONT]

[FONT=times new roman,times]"to a growing, Internet-based pool of supporters, the silver-haired obstetrician turned politician is the sanest man at the Republican debates and perhaps in all of Congress. Paul attracts an unusual political potpourri of people of all ages and viewpoints, including a sprinkling of conspiracy theorists and other extremists whose views Paul's campaign disavows." [/FONT]
[FONT=times new roman,times]No anti-Semites, KKKers, or FBI raids in sight anywhere -- just ‘conspiracy theorists'--but all neatly "disavowed." Really? [/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times]Was that when Jesse Benton[/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times] -- Ron Paul's national communications director -- said "I cannot say that we will be rejecting Mr. Black's (Stormfront) contribution?" [/FONT]


[FONT=times new roman,times]Well actually Ron Paul appears to be disavowing some contributions: [/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times]those given by bankers and Wall Streeters[/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times]. Corporate money is too dirty for Ron Paul to accept but KKK money is not? [/FONT]


[FONT=times new roman,times]The Chicago Tribune also offers this nugget: [/FONT]

[FONT=times new roman,times]"Paul appears financially comfortable but not exceedingly wealthy, according to filings with the Federal Election Commission. Most of his holdings are in about two dozen gold and silver firms, many valued at less than $15,000 and none valued at more than $250,000." [/FONT]
[FONT=times new roman,times]Do those firms benefit from the sale of Ron Paul Dollars? Of course they do; someone has to bring in the wrong way crowd to buy gold and silver at the top of the commodities cycle. [/FONT]
[FONT=times new roman,times]Meanwhile the mainstream media is mostly ignoring the cesspool of neo-Nazis, Klanners, Holocaust deniers, and gold-bugs-with-the-FBI-pounding-on-their-door, surrounding Paul. Why? The Democrats can unload some of their whack-job fringe to the GOP via Ron Paul and in their dreams, hang these nut jobs around the GOP's neck like a dead albatross. At the same time they assist Hillary or Obama in trying to move to the center for the general election. [/FONT]


[FONT=times new roman,times]Timing is everything. Paul has staked $1.1 million on the NH primary. His big fundraising push November 5 and now December 16 come conveniently before the Jan 1 reporting deadline. That deadline is too close to the Iowa and NH votes for evidence about Paul's supporters to make a difference. [/FONT]


[FONT=times new roman,times]The hard work is done. The information about Paul is on line neatly organized for even the laziest reporter in America to confirm, write up and look like a genius. [/FONT]


[FONT=times new roman,times]Writes WaPo[/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times]: [/FONT]

[FONT=times new roman,times]"As if Ron Paul's supporters needed any more motivation to storm the battlements and wreak havoc on the Republican presidential primary, now comes this: the feds are trying to take away their money." [/FONT]
[FONT=times new roman,times]Antonio Gramsci[/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times] would be very proud.

[FONT=times new roman,times]Andrew Walden is e[/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times]ditor of H[/FONT][FONT=times new roman,times]awai`i Free Press in Hilo.[/FONT]
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Here's some details on the Ron Paul dollars thing he refers to:

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2007/11/16/post_203.html?hpid=topnews

In Ron Paul Coins, Federal Agents Don't Trust

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Rep. Ron Paul, candidate and currency.

As if Ron Paul's supporters needed any more motivation to storm the battlements and wreak havoc on the Republican presidential primary, now comes this: the feds are trying to take away their money.
Federal agents on Wednesday raided the Evansville, Indiana headquarters of the National Organization for the Repeal of the Federal Reserve and Internal Revenue Codes (NORFED), an organization of "sound money" advocates that for the past decade has been selling what it calls Liberty Dollars, a private currency it says is backed by silver and gold stored in Idaho, with a total of more than $20 million in circulation, according to the group.
NORFED officials said yesterday that the raid occurred just as they were preparing to mail out the first batch of about 60,000 "Ron Paul Dollars," copper coins sold for $1 and decorated with the craggy visage of Paul, the libertarian Texas congressman, Iraq war opponent and sound-money advocate who has sparked a surprisingly vigorous insurgent campaign for the GOP nomination. The group says that it in recent months it already shipped out about 10,000 in silver Ron Paul dollars that sold for $20.
Bernard von NotHaus, NORFED's founder and executive director, said in an interview from his home in Miami Friday night that his employees in Evansville had received the copper dollars late last week and managed to mail out only about 3,500 of them so far. After a six-hour raid, he said, the agents left with the rest of the coins, which weighed about two tons total, as well as smaller amounts of silver Ron Paul dollars, gold Ron Paul dollars that sell for $1,000 and platinum Ron Paul dollars that sell for $2,000. There was a separate raid, NotHaus said, of Sunshine Mint in Coer D'Alene, Idaho, a company that prints the organization's coins, where von NotHaus said agents seized the huge pallets of silver and gold worth more than $1 million that the organization says back the paper certificates issued to its customers.
"They took everything, all of the computers, everything but the desks and chairs," said von NotHaus, who says he served 25 years as the mintmaster for the Royal Hawaiian Mint. "The federal government really is afraid."
The Indianapolis branch of the FBI declined to comment on the raid and referred calls to the U.S. Attorney's office for Western North Carolina in Charlotte. That office's spokeswoman, Suellen Pierce, also declined to comment. But bloggers at the libertarian Reason Foundation posted on-line a 35-page copy affidavit for a search warrant filed last week with the Western District in Asheville laying out the government's case against NORFED. Pierce said that the search warrant in the case had been accidentally made public by a court clerk and has since been sealed, under court rules.
In the affidavit, an FBI special agent states that he is investigating NORFED for federal violations including "uttering coins of gold, silver, or other metal," "making or possessing likeness of coins," mail fraud, wire fraud, money laundering and conspiracy. "The goal of NORFED is to undermine the United States government's financial systems by the issuance of a non-governmental competing currency for the purpose of repealing the Federal Reserve and Internal Revenue Code," he states.
The agent states that the investigation started two years ago. And the U.S. Mint a year ago issued a warning against using the Liberty Dollar, prompting a lawsuit by NORFED. But that has not kept Liberty Dollar fans from speculating on-line that the raid was prompted by Paul's strong campaign -- which recently raised more than $4 million in a single day -- or by the precipitous recent decline in the value of the dollar.
A Paul campaign spokeswoman, Kerri Price, said yesterday that while Paul also supports abolishing the Federal Reserve, the campaign "does not have any affiliation with Liberty Dollars at all." von NotHaus confirmed this, saying that he knows Paul because they "move in the same circles" but that he had expressly not talked with Paul about his plans for the special coins so as not to violate federal election rules.
But the coins have been another rallying point for Paul's supporters, who have asked Paul to pose for photographs with the coins on the campaign trail. Jim Forsythe, a Paul organizer in New Hampshire who ordered 150 of the copper Ron Paul dollars, said yesterday that the seizure of the coins would likely fuel more support for Paul, who scores close to double-digits in some New Hampshire polls. "People are pretty upset about this," he said. "The dollar is going down the tubes and this is something that can protect the value of their money and the Federal Reserve is threatened by that. It'll definitely fire people up."
Von NotHaus, meanwhile, is urging Liberty Dollar supporters to express their outrage by donating to Paul, saying on the group's Web site that "in light of this assault on our financial freedom, it is clear that we need Ron Paul to lead this country more than ever." He said that all of his bank accounts have been frozen and that he expects that a federal indictment will soon be in the offing, saying that "once the federal government starts an investigation like this and takes it to a grand jury, they can indict a ham sandwich." Should he be charged, he said, "I'll turn it into my golden opportunity to validate the Liberty Dollar as a legal lawful currency and save the country from a monetary collapse."
What he's most concerned about for now, though, is the thought of all his customers waiting for their Ron Paul dollars. "People aren't going to get their orders, and they aren't going to get them for a while," he said.
That is good news, of course, for those already holding the coins. On eBay, the silver Ron Paul dollars that were purchased for $20 were selling for more than $170 last night.
--Alec MacGillis
Posted at 6:48 PM ET on Nov 16, 2007

It seems like it took about a week after his big fund raising day for the media to start noticing Ron Paul. It seems they have lots of issues with Ron Paul's supporters and not so many with the man himself. I like how they try to make the fact that he has money invested in gold and silver an indicator that he is some how corrupt. To me it just shows that he is investing his own money in what he is advocating the country to do.
 

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A related thought, is Ron Paul basically the "Howard Dean" of the Republican party?

I wonder how many of his supporters were "Deaniacs" in the last election? If he is unable to distance himself from the kooky over-zealous and fringe supporters then he will never gain the mainstream support that he needs to be a credible candidate.

Just a thought.
 
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