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World war 3 started years ago.

muleman

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When WWIII (3) Started - 1979

This is not very long, but very informative
You have to read the catalogue of events in this brief piece. Then, ask yourself how anyone can take the position that all we have to do is bring our troops home from Iraq, reset the snooze alarm, go back to sleep, and no one will ever bother us again. In case you missed it, World War III began in November 1979...










US Navy Captain Ouimette is the Executive Officer at Naval Air Station, Pensacola , Florida . Here is a copy of the speech he gave last month. It is an accurate account of why we are in so much trouble today and why this action is so necessary.

AMERICA NEEDS TO WAKE UP!

That's what we think we heard on the 11th of September 2001 (When more than 3,000 Americans were killed) and maybe it was, but I think it should have been 'Get Out of Bed!' In fact, the alarm clock has been buzzing since 1979 and we have continued to hit the snooze button and roll over for a few more minutes of peaceful sleep since then.

It was a cool fall day in November 1979 in a country going through a religious and political upheaval when a group of Iranian students attacked and seized the American Embassy in Tehran . This seizure was an outright attack on American soil; it was an attack that held the world's most powerful country hostage and paralyzed a Presidency The attack on this sovereign U. S. Embassy set the stage for events to follow for the next 25 years.

America was still reeling from the aftermath of the Vietnam experience and had a serious threat from the Soviet Union when then, President Carter, had to do something. He chose to conduct a clandestine raid in the desert. The ill-fated mission ended in ruin, but stood as a symbol of America's inability to deal with terrorism

America 's military had been decimated and down sized since the end of the Vietnam War. A poorly trained, poorly equipped and poorly organized military was called on to execute a complex mission that was doomed from the start.

Shortly after the Tehran experience, Americans began to be kidnapped and killed throughout the Middle East . America could do little to protect her citizens living and working abroad. The attacks against US soil continued.

In April of 1983 a large vehicle packed with high explosives was driven into the US Embassy compound in Beirut When it explodes, it kills 63 people. The alarm went off again and America hit the Snooze Button once more.

Then just six short months later in 1983 a large truck heavily laden down with over 25 00 pounds of TNT smashed through the main gate of the US Marine Corps headquarters in Beirut and 241 US servicemen are killed. America mourns her dead and hit the Snooze Button once more.

Two months later in December 1983, another truck loaded with explosives is driven into the US Embassy in Kuwait , and America continues her slumber.

The following year, in September 1984, another van was driven into the gate of the US Embassy in Beirut and America slept.

Soon the terrorism spreads to Europe . In April 1985 a bomb explodes in a restaurant frequented by US soldiers in Madrid

Then in August 1985 a Volkswagen loaded with explosives is driven into the main gate of the US Air Force Base at Rheine-Main, 22 are killed and the snooze alarm is buzzing louder and louder as US interests are continually attacked.

Fifty-nine days later in 1985 a cruise ship, the Achille Lauro is hijacked and we watched as an American in a wheelchair is singled out of the passenger list and executed.

The terrorists then shift their tactics to bombing civilian airliners when they bomb TWA Flight 840 in April of 1986 that killed 4 and the most tragic bombing, Pan Am Flight 103 over Lockerbie , Scotland in 1988, killing 259.

The wake up alarm is getting louder and louder.

The terrorists decide to bring the fight to America . In January
1993, two CIA agents are shot and killed as they enter CIA headquarters in Langley , Virginia

The following month, February
1993 , a group of terrorists are arrested after a rented van packed with explosives is driven into the underground parking garage of the World Trade Center in New York City . Six people are killed and over 1000 are injured. Still this is a crime and not an act of war? The Snooze alarm is depressed again.

Then in November
1995 a car bomb explodes at a US military complex in RiyadhSaudi Arabiakilling seven service men and women.

A few months later in June of
1996, another truck bomb explodes only 35 yards from the US military compound in Dhahran , Saudi Arabia . It destroys the Khobar Towers , a US Air Force barracks, killing 19 and injuring over 500. The terrorists are getting braver and smarter as they see that America does not respond decisively.

They move to coordinate their attacks in a simultaneous attack on two US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania . These attacks were planned with precision. They kill 224. America responds with cruise missile attacks and goes back to sleep.

The USS Cole was docked in the port of Aden, Yemen for refueling on 12 October
2000 , when a small craft pulled along side the ship and exploded killing 17 US Navy Sailors. Attacking a US War Ship is an act of war, but we sent the FBI to investigate the crime and went back to sleep.

And of course you know the events of
11 September 2001. Most Americans think this was the first attack against US soil or in America . How wrong they are. America has been under a constant attack since 1979 and we chose to hit the snooze alarm and roll over and go back to sleep.

In the news lately we have seen lots of finger pointing from every high official in government over what they knew and what they didn't know. But if you've read the papers and paid a little attention I think you can see exactly what they knew. You don't have to be in the FBI or CIA or on the National Security Council to see
the pattern that has been developing since 1979.

I think we have been in a war for the past 25 years and it will continue until we as a people decide enough is enough. America needs to 'Get out of Bed' and act decisively now. America has been changed forever. We have to be ready to pay the price and make the sacrifice to ensure our way of life continues. We cannot afford to keep hitting the snooze button again and again and roll over and go back to sleep.

After the attack on Pearl Harbor , Admiral Yamamoto said '... it seems all we have done is awakened a sleeping giant.' This is the message we need to disseminate to terrorists around the world.

This is not a political thing to be hashed over in an election year, this is an AMERICAN thing. This is about our Freedom and the Freedom of our children in years to come.

If you believe in this please forward it to as many people as you can especially to the young people and all those who dozed off in history class and who seem so quick to protest such a necessary military action.
If you don't believe it, just delete it and go back to sleep.









 

joec

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I've seen this before and facts are the dates and events are accurate. I saw first hand the results in the early 80's. Not a pretty sight to say the least but hard to find someone to retaliate against for it.
 

HarryG

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Just wait, soon enough we'll be playing cowboys and Muslims right here on our own soil. :brows:
 

muleman

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Well, I will be on Cowboys side! If they bring it here it will get interesting to see how the bleeding hearts react when they wage jihad against their loved ones. I can hear the anti-gunners crying now for somebody to save their sorry asses.
 

muleman

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Towelheads ain't much different than a hunk of firewood at 300 yds. Might have to get the 7mm mag. out this week and try a few rounds. It is getting on 2 months since my surgery so it should be good to go.:unsure:
 

Cowboy

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Well, I will be on Cowboys side! If they bring it here it will get interesting to see how the bleeding hearts react when they wage jihad against their loved ones. I can hear the anti-gunners crying now for somebody to save their sorry asses.


There aint a doubt in my mind your right Bill , that would be the only good thing about it happening . :wink:
 

Danang Sailor

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Just wait, soon enough we'll be playing cowboys and Muslims right here on our own soil. :brows:

We just have to be careful who we're shooting; not all Muslims support the current jihad against the infidels. I prefer the less generic "Islamic Supremacists"; these are the ones who have decided that The Prophet was right about everything and the rest of us have to be converted or destroyed. You remember The Prophet -- the guy who married a six-year-old girl, decided that it takes a minimum of two women testifying in court to equal the testimony of one man, told men that it was their Holy Duty to beat their wives, and to kill any female relatives who had been raped in order to "cleanse the family's honor". We must remember the Islam is not a religion as we think of religion; to Supremacists it is a religion, a code of law (Sharia), and a form of government, all wrapped up in one neat albeit fundamentally warped package.

But before we start shooting we should see if fixing some other things might not help a whole lot. We can start by demanding (NOT asking!!) our elected servants to stop playing PC games and quit kissing the Supremacists' backsides. We can demand that the FBI actually do something about all the Islamic Supremacist terror cells in this country that they already know about. We can demand equal footing for ALL minority groups and special treatment for none. [Example: In the Kansas City International Airport there are signs saying "Welcome to Kansas City!" in two languages - English, and Arabic. Nothing in Spanish, French, or German, even though people using the airport and speaking those languages outnumber those speaking Arabic by an estimated 100-to-1!!] And everyone reading this can go to www.actforamerica.org and sign up for their email newsletters or, at the very least, read up about what the Supremacists are doing, and what they plan for you and your children.

If taking these steps, and others that are obvious to those living outside the DC Beltway, does not work, we had best be ready to take up arms, and take to the hills as Freedom Fighters or, to borrow from the language of WWII, form the American Resistance. And the shooting will begin for real.

 

NorthernRedneck

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I can't dispute any of the facts in that article other than the title. How do attacks against americans mean that it is WWIII. My understanding of what a world war is is when there is upheaval all over the world with different conflicts going on around the world. I'm not downplaying the attacks against the USA. I just don't see how attacks against the USA means the whole world is at war. After all, that is what a world war is all about, isn't it? When the whole world is at war.
 

bczoom

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Haven't other countries been attacked by these extremists as well? If all the countries whom have been attacked stand up, I believe it would be a world war.

Although not recently, Canada hasn't been immune.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_Canada

It does start by saying "Terrorism in Canada primarily consists of fundraising for terrorist attacks outside of the country" so it's not truly isolated.
 

NorthernRedneck

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Haven't other countries been attacked by these extremists as well? If all the countries whom have been attacked stand up, I believe it would be a world war.

Although not recently, Canada hasn't been immune.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_Canada

It does start by saying "Terrorism in Canada primarily consists of fundraising for terrorist attacks outside of the country" so it's not truly isolated.

I'm sure you can look up any country and there will be acts of terrorism in and against that country. That doesn't necessarily mean that the country is involved in a world war however. I just don't see how random incidents of terrorism by isolated groups from another country can be called WWIII. Now, if say...the country of Afghanistan or Iraq or any other muslim country attacked another country and several countries became involved in an all out battle against those countries then other countries joined in on their side and all hell broke loose, then we could call it a world war. I'm not downplaying any attacks made by individual muslim groups against any other nation here. Just trying to point out that it isn't a world war in my books....not yet anyways.

Now, if the scenerio I described did happen, then we could look at calling it a world war. Just my opinion though.....Canadians are allowed to have those...right????:whistling:
 

Galvatron

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Yes we are in a world war.....just exists in different ways but will still harm people every day.

Trading sanctions is the new war.....and it's joe public that suffers not the idiots that are running the country.....i bet even in North Korea there are people like you and me with the right mind of thinking being screwed over by tyrants running the show....just one example and sad really.....yes we need to clamp down but its a shame the people at the bottom suffer.

sorry blame my wife she left me home alone and i started thinking.
 

muleman

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If the extremists are not brought under control it will spread like a plague and unfortunately Europe will be one of the most likely to suffer it's consequences. They are hell bent on taking over the entire world not just the U.S.
 

Galvatron

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If the extremists are not brought under control it will spread like a plague and unfortunately Europe will be one of the most likely to suffer it's consequences. They are hell bent on taking over the entire world not just the U.S.

I fully agree Bill....lets take out the scum tyrants and let joe public not suffer more than need be.....we all know why they act the way they do....and it is to get what they want to live a life of comfy why the people starve and die slowly of disease thats easily cured if they just wanted to treat them......sick fookers and the worlds top nations need to put a stop to it....here on this earth only once....why make it hard for people.....pisses me off.
 
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