snow trac steering belt

Snowtrac Nome · Feb 10, 2010

just ordered a 2926v646 from motion industries in washington will cost me $105.00 plus us mail shipping the advantage with them over ak rubber will be a bid freight savings

Melensdad · Feb 10, 2010

Is that the GATES brand belt?

I know I have a spare, didn't realize it was worth so much!!!

300 H and H · Feb 10, 2010

A heavy variable speed belt costs this much now days. A good snowmobile belt is $95 I know as I just bought two. :glare:

Got to pay to play....

Regards, Kirk

Melensdad · Feb 10, 2010

By the way, for whatever it is worth, the 'steering' belt on a Snow Trac is actually called a VARIATOR Belt. If anyone needs to know any technical information about the Variator or the Variator Belt, do a couple of searches using those terms. Lyndon, the undisputed walking encyclopedia of Snow Trac knowledge has written up a thread about the Variator.

Snowtrac Nome · Feb 10, 2010

B_Skurka said:
By the way, for whatever it is worth, the 'steering' belt on a Snow Trac is actually called a VARIATOR Belt. If anyone needs to know any technical information about the Variator or the Variator Belt, do a couple of searches using those terms. Lyndon, the undisputed walking encyclopedia of Snow Trac knowledge has written up a thread about the Variator.

yes he is and yes it's a gates belt

stevefromcac · Feb 11, 2010

I just got My Variator back together last night. It's a confusing little mousetrap, but I think I got everything where it belongs. I am planning on doing the final belt tension(center spring adjustment) after I have a power plant back in it. If nothing else everything turns a lot easier now.

Arno Ortlieb · Feb 11, 2010

someone has the exact dimensions of the belt ? :brows:

ect length wide ect

my belt is very loose and I can not adjust it any more (see picture)

by the way the SnowTrac runs only 15 km/h how fast are normal ? we have an second one this runs 25 km/h

best regards

Arno

couchloafer · Feb 11, 2010

What motor do you have in there?
Can you determine how many teeth are on both the front and rear gears on the chain drives in both Snow Tracs? That could be the difference in the speed

JSX · Feb 11, 2010

Looks like a watercooled VW rabbit motor?

Arno Ortlieb · Feb 11, 2010

it is in AUDI 80 engine with 51 KW
in front I have 42 in the back (on the gearbox) 11 teeth (in the SnowMaster)

but any how - how fast is normal ?

Arno

Melensdad · Feb 11, 2010

Arno Ortlieb said:
but any how - how fast is normal ?

Arno

About 20mph give or take, that would be roughly 25kph plus or minus.

There were different sprockets used, and the sprocket determines the top speed, so depending on the sprocket used in your Snow Trac you should find that about 25kph would be in the 'normal' range.

Snowtrac Nome · Feb 11, 2010

i'm sold if i ever do a liquid cooled conversion it will be one of those 1.6 motors don't even have to alter the hood

couchloafer · Feb 11, 2010

Cant believe I missed this the first go around..........what is up with those side windows????????? Is it just me? Never seen 4 little windows before.....

300 H and H · Feb 11, 2010

The roof too,

I noticed the windows right away...and the roof. Wonder if it is an open top model that some one has rather tastefully enclosed. That is my guess anyway.

Kirk

Snowtrac Nome · Feb 12, 2010

the windows look like they are off of a 2 man cab butthe back half looks fabricated.

Arno Ortlieb · Feb 12, 2010

Hello thanks for the reply, there's another snow trac in black forest with such a cabin, so I think it is original. With the speed - thanks for the information - (with out original motor) it made me just interesiert how fast go in original Snowtrac as jusual. 1 maschine ist a bad reverenz - so we will start to chance the sprocket to make it faster / the mashine is now only for fun, he donth have to work (pull) any mor
The hood is chanced

/ in the end I'm sad that the mashine not original any more - in the case of a Snowtrac are no better than a VW air cooled engine (in my opinen)

we will restorations the Snow Tac the next 12 months but live the engin in

have some body the datas from the belt (variomatic belt) ????

enclose picture from the hood an the cabine

Melensdad · Feb 12, 2010

The cabin IS AN ORIGINAL CABIN. I've seen photos of several of those and each owner claimed the cabin was original. From what I can tell after digging through as much history of the company as my brain will hold, they were a very frugal company and used what parts they had on hand in the best way they could. So if they had that size window then they made a cabin up to utilize those windows. If they had the larger windows then they made up cabins with the larger windows. They did the same type of thing with their electrical systems and lights. Running and tail lights changed as they ran out of one style of light they switched to another.

Arno Ortlieb · Feb 12, 2010

it's me again ..... the belt is on the picture right?

it is nice to know bevore i am put the variator in parts (and order the belt)

(the picture im taken 2 years ago i donth have this belt in hand)

best thanks in advance

Arno

couchloafer · Feb 12, 2010

I am not familiar with this belt.....the number of the replacement belt I am familiar with is 2926V646. The general consensus is that the Gates multi speed belts are the best replacement but I have used several off brands that seem to work just fine.
If you want a new Snow Trac Variator belt try to contact Christer Morlind at christer@klovsjo.com his website is http://www.klovsjo.com/snowtrac/

here are some links to the US. Don't know if they will ship to you or not..
http://www.plccenter.com/BasicSearchGrid.aspx?SearchType=1&SearchDepartment=4&SearchString=2926V646

http://www.royalsupply.com/store/pc/GPT-2926V646-1113p39070.htm

thanks for the great pictures and video !!

Arno Ortlieb · Feb 12, 2010

hello together, many thanks for your help - a great forum
arno

teledawg · Feb 16, 2010

Arno Ortlieb said:
someone has the exact dimensions of the belt ?
ect length wide ect ...

It looks like the 2926V646 is also available in a metric equivelent:

V-Belt....Top Width....Outside Length.... Metric
Number...(Inches)......(inches)............. Number
2926V646 1-13/16..... 65.4.................46V1640A26
Maybe the 46V1640A26 will be eaiser to find in the Black Forest. :w00t2:

Explanitation of imperial belt part numbers: xxyyVzzz

xx := belt width in 1/16 of an inch.
29/16" = 1-13/16"

yy:= intended pully angle in degrees
26 degrees

V := variable speed belt

zzz := belt length in 1/10 of an Inches
646/10 = 64.6"

Explaniation of metric belp part numbers: xxVzzzzAyy
xx := belt top width in mm
46 mm wide

V := variable speed

zzzz := belt length in mm
1640 mm long

A := angle

yy := intended pully angle in degrees
26 degrees

couchloafer · Feb 16, 2010

Thanks Fred!

Arno Ortlieb · Feb 17, 2010

Hello Fred, many thanks you've saved me a lot of money and time - I think the transport of en belt from sweden and usa is expensiver than the belt itself ! best regards from the black forest Arno

Snowtrac Nome · Feb 17, 2010

nice looking snow trac pretty country

Arno Ortlieb · Feb 18, 2010

Hello Done , yes it is a nice in the schwarzwald (black forest) you need to come to visit it, you will surely like it arno

http://www.muenstertal-staufen.de

http://www.freiburg.de/servlet/PB/menu/1140679_l2/index.html

Snowtrac Nome · Feb 18, 2010

i would like to but now with the tsa bs they might not let me back in to this country i was born in japan on an americain instalation and tsa can't understand why i don't have immigration papers. i'm eventualy going to have to get a passport but not looking forward to it as i expect it will be an up hill battle and o yes 20 years of military service means nothing to them A$$holes

couchloafer · Feb 18, 2010

Arno,
Very nice looking Snow trac.......what number is it?
Can you post some detailed pictures of the motor, cab, etc.... we love pictures!

Arno Ortlieb · Feb 19, 2010

Hallo Couchlofaer, you like pictures :wink:

well thats not a problem - enclose the pictures. We have 3 SnowTrac - 2 Snow Master (the are by one) and 1 SnowTrac witch we take care it is not any more in use by the owner, the owner are the Herzogenhorn Sporthotel http://www.herzogenhorn.info/
the keep them for historical reason - and also for safty reason when the KÄSSBOHRER have a down brake have nice day Arno

Arno Ortlieb · Feb 19, 2010

and now the picture from one of the Snow Master (the second I am must take first picture this one are in bad condition (some kids smashed the cabin)

couchloafer · Feb 19, 2010

Thanks for the great pictures!

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