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UNIONS stop pretending, clearly show support for Communism

Doc

Bottoms Up
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DuPont for the most part is Union Doc. This has been going on for years but like I said they pay 100% of the medical as well as back pay to employees injured at least when I worked for them through '79. Now I don't know if this was an agreement with the union or not but either way they are a Union plant at least in the US. Oh and their safety record is their choice of proving they are a great US company. I might add here to satisfy the right wing among us that they really are a pretty good company to work for and are really fair with their employees though others aren't.


At my brothers plant the workers have voted quite a few times and it has remained a non union shop. This was the choice of the workers.

Back to the topic Bob posted though (sorry to derail it Bob) .... Unions do indeed have socialist tendencies in that all that matters is your time in for seniority; the quality of your work is of no consequence.
 

Melensdad

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.... Unions do indeed have socialist tendencies in that all that matters is your time in for seniority; the quality of your work is of no consequence.
Well things are getting worse for Free Enterprise and America, now the unions and community organizers in Washington DC are demanding a laundry list of extortion from Wal Mart before allowing Wal Mart to open a store in the city.

The list of demands from Respect D.C. in their “Respect D.C. Agreement” is as follows:

• Pay every employee the D.C. living wage, currently $12.50 per hour.
Provide $50 a month in public transportation subsidy to every employee.
• Employ at least 65 percent of its D.C. employees on a full-time basis.
Not ask job applicants about previous criminal convictions.
• Use project labor agreements to construct its stores.
• Fund all infrastructure improvements made necessary by its stores.
Provide free shuttle transportation to and from the nearest Metro station to each D.C. store every 10 minutes.
• Commit to traffic alleviation studies.
• Provide up to 2.5 free or low-priced parking spaces per 1,000 square feet of building space.
• Provide secure, accessible bicycle parking, car sharing and bike sharing for workers and shoppers.
Not sell firearms or ammunition.
• Employ no less than two off-duty D.C. police officers on its premises at all times.
• Abide by a “code of conduct with regard to its employees’ freedom to choose a voice on the job without interference.”
Fund workforce training programs for D.C. residents, and use training programs as its primary avenue for hiring D.C. residents.
• Hire at least 40 percent of its employees at each store from the ward in which the store is located.
Make “ongoing contributions to a fund managed by a council of community stakeholders” that will provide incentives and support to local small businesses.
• Make ongoing payments for community funds controlled by “community advisory councils” for education and faith-based programs.




Read more at NetRightDaily.com: http://netrightdaily.com/2011/05/th...-dislike-the-big-jobs-provider/#ixzz1LrQTtdOB
 

SShepherd

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Well things are getting worse for Free Enterprise and America, now the unions and community organizers in Washington DC are demanding a laundry list of extortion from Wal Mart before allowing Wal Mart to open a store in the city.


that's complete bullstuff

walmart should tell them to pound sand, and set up a store on the outskirts
 

SShepherd

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aside from doing nothing for me personally ( I also worked in a non union shop), They tried to tell me how I should vote regardless if I agreed with it or not. They handed me a pamphlet with a polotician that "supported the best interest of the union". This candidate was clearly anti 2nd amendment and I handed it back saying no thankyou. Shortly after that I was visited my a few upper union reps, telling me if I didn't vote for the guy that the shop would close and I'd be out of a job...yadda yadda.
Now, I laughed at that, but there were a large number of people there who were unemployable anywhere else. No highschool diploma or GED, pretty "unskilled" and needed to work desperatly. I can see how those tactics would scare those people into voting the way the union wanted.
thats one of many incidents that soured me to unions.
 

Danang Sailor

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When unions first came about, business owners could do whatever they wanted, and workers had no choice but to go along or be fired ... or worse. Unions gave the workers a voice, some needed political clout, and helped make things much better for everyone. That was good.

Then, the pendulum swung so far in the other direction that unions had all the power, and could dictate whatever terms they wanted, even if it was to the detriment of the business. This got so bad in some cases the intractability of striking unions actually caused businesses to close, to the detriment of all.

Now, the pendulum appears to be swinging back toward the middle, where there is a balance between businesses and workers. This, of course, is not happy-making for the unions, who must lose a great deal of their power, and likely have to make concessions regarding compensation issues. However, it is a necessary step on the road to economic recovery.

And now, something entirely different ... A Modest Proposal to Shorten Labor Strikes:
When a union decides it is necessary to do a work stoppage/walkout (ie, a "strike"), those people who perform no actual work in the business should not be exempt from the consequences of the strike. Specifically, those people employed exclusively to do union business should stop receiving their salary and benefits at the same time as those they are supposed to represent! It has been my personal experience that as long as these folks are comfortable they will continue a strike well beyond the point where the union members can never gain back what they have lost during the strike. If THEY had to live on no money, as those they represent must, I firmly believe that many strikes would be settled much sooner, with results more equitable for all concerned.

Okay, off my :soapbox: now.
 

Randy Scheffer

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I think DS hit the nail on the head.

The fact is that unions came to be due to the mentality of management that they (management) could do anything they want, and usually get away with it, even if the government had to send in paid "troops" on behalf of management to keep control of the situation.
 

Av8r3400

Gone Flyin'
The world will be such a better place once all unions are busted and have gone extinct.

Unions do nothing for the workers but promote mediocrity, reward attendance rather than merit and steal the money of their ignorant, gullible rank and file to fund their liberal-socialist political agenda and make the union leadership rich and powerful.
 

Lia

Banned
aside from doing nothing for me personally ( I also worked in a non union shop), They tried to tell me how I should vote regardless if I agreed with it or not. They handed me a pamphlet with a polotician that "supported the best interest of the union". This candidate was clearly anti 2nd amendment and I handed it back saying no thankyou. Shortly after that I was visited my a few upper union reps, telling me if I didn't vote for the guy that the shop would close and I'd be out of a job...yadda yadda.
Now, I laughed at that, but there were a large number of people there who were unemployable anywhere else. No highschool diploma or GED, pretty "unskilled" and needed to work desperatly. I can see how those tactics would scare those people into voting the way the union wanted.
thats one of many incidents that soured me to unions.

Thats absolutely outrageous! They sound more like the Mafia, than a working mans champion.
 

jimbo

Bronze Member
GOLD Site Supporter
When unions first came about, business owners could do whatever they wanted, and workers had no choice but to go along or be fired ... or worse. Unions gave the workers a voice, some needed political clout, and helped make things much better for everyone. That was good.

Then, the pendulum swung so far in the other direction that unions had all the power, and could dictate whatever terms they wanted, even if it was to the detriment of the business. This got so bad in some cases the intractability of striking unions actually caused businesses to close, to the detriment of all.

Now, the pendulum appears to be swinging back toward the middle, where there is a balance between businesses and workers. This, of course, is not happy-making for the unions, who must lose a great deal of their power, and likely have to make concessions regarding compensation issues. However, it is a necessary step on the road to economic recovery.

And now, something entirely different ... A Modest Proposal to Shorten Labor Strikes:
When a union decides it is necessary to do a work stoppage/walkout (ie, a "strike"), those people who perform no actual work in the business should not be exempt from the consequences of the strike. Specifically, those people employed exclusively to do union business should stop receiving their salary and benefits at the same time as those they are supposed to represent! It has been my personal experience that as long as these folks are comfortable they will continue a strike well beyond the point where the union members can never gain back what they have lost during the strike. If THEY had to live on no money, as those they represent must, I firmly believe that many strikes would be settled much sooner, with results more equitable for all concerned.

Okay, off my :soapbox: now.
That same rule should apply to congress and the rest of Washington. Any law passed must equally apply to themselves.
 
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