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It appears that a wolf or pack of wolves killed a female teacher in an Alaskan Bush town..
http://www.adn.com/2010/03/09/117572...-villager.html
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Just curious, but is the Wolf considered a pest in Alaska? I know in some states they are a 'protected' species and cannot be hunted. We don't have them (and don't want them) here. We do have coyotes and its year round open season on shooting those things! I'd be really curious to see follow ups to this story about what happens to the wolves and if PETA or some other group shows up to protect them from the townspeople.
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all the animal rights people are trying to start a tourist boycott of alaska for the summer over a ruling the other day..they wanted the wolves that live in denali park protected when they travel outside the park.....now how the hell are we gonna know where they came from?they tried the same thing with our states arial wolf kill program.if they are not regulated,they kill all the cows and calf moose.they are NOT dogs..one of my neighbors loves wolves and will no longer come to my house because i have nine of them hanging in my entryway getting ready to send off to be tanned..this pack killed two of their dogs last year and they still don't want them trapped.can't please em all i guess...Bill w
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As far a a "People Pest", they aren't in most cases, but a healthy wolf population will lay waste to a Moose or Caribou population. Bright side is they will track down and eat Coyotes, as well as house cats and dogs that are outside. Some dog musher's have gone out to feed "Fido" and found a head on the chain with no body... never heard a sound..
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Seems that the locals are out hunting wolves today...
http://www.adn.com/2010/03/10/117802...y-pack-of.html
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Good to see some common sense action by the towns people going out and culling back the wolf population.
I found this article and thought it interesting, apparently pro-Wolf animal groups are claiming the wolf population is lower than it really is in an effort to expand protection of the wolves. Now I don't advocate slaughter of the wolves, but it strikes me there must be a balance of all animals in the eco-system. Elk Foundation Calls Out Motives of Wolf Groups
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Appears the autopsy shows she was killed by an animal.... which wasn't supprising by the locals who called it right up front.
http://www.adn.com/2010/03/11/117938...al-killed.html
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The wolf situation is way out of hand in Wyoming. Packs of 16-22 wolves. Kinda makes you wonder about the old 6 shot 44 doesnt it.
Was very fortunate to have drawed and harvested a decent bull moose last year. Waited 15 yrs to draw and was probably the hardest I'd ever hunted and seen two moose the whole time. Outfitters, moose biologist and taxidermist said the same. A few more years with the wolves and the moose will be listed as endangered! Lots of good info following wolves www.pinedaleonline.com Wolf Watch Cletis |
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Well it appears the State is going to go after the wolves, seems that the locals are already on the trail.. But here is a news update...
http://www.adn.com/2010/03/11/117936...by-wolves.html
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Wow, a state doing something that makes sense. Good for Alaska!!!
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Not to worry, they have their moments...
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its funny how things go.people used to shoot every wolf they seen and for good reason.when the population was under control the tree huggers put a spin on the cute little critters.making them out to be sweet little animals that run through the forest.well guess what,they are predators that will kill and eat pretty much anything.
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Heard an amusing story about wolves and Yellowstone...
It seems the ranchers around the park were quite upset because some of the park's wolves had ventured onto several ranches and killed a number of sheep. A Park Service biologist had come up with a plan to solve the problem and made a presentation outlining it to a group of area ranchers. The biologist explained that they proposed to capture and castrate quite a number of the male wolves. The presentation then explained how they intended to to this and why it was going to work, etc. Finally a rancher raised his hand and when called on said "I don't think you understand the problem. The problem isn't that the wolves are **cking our sheep. The problem is they're killing them." |
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I've noticed a rise in the number of wolves and Fox around here. It also means a decline in the amount of Moose, Rabbit, Grouse etc.. I have noticed a large amount of wolf tracks while out on the trails and less and less moose tracks. Wolves will travel a good distance too so relocating them is not the answer. Last year, I was out on a 97km run with the snowcat(one way) I followed a lone set of wolf tracks almost the entire run. The tracks never left the groomed/packed the entire time.
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I love how you gun carrying, don't regulate me, don't tax me all bitch and complain about government and biologists. Yet, you fail to realize that the only reason YOU still can go hunt Moose, Elk, Caribou, Wolves, Cougars...etc is the very government that has put in programs to regulate and maintain these species against the worst predator of all, YOU! The only reason we still have buffalo is directly due to government intervention. Government is good when it benefits your interests, but you protest when it benefits anyone elses.
Alaska is wilderness, which is what we all love about it in the lower 48. If you are so concerned about Wolves go talk to a Native Alaskan and ask their opinion. Apparently, they harmoniously lived with Wolves for several thousand years. A bit longer, but you creationists would argue that. You choose to live in the wilderness you choose to accept the risk. If you are a rancher and ranch on public land then too f$%king bad. No one gets 100% return on their investment and neither should you living off the public trust. If Wolves are on YOUR property that blow the snot out of them. You don't like regulation, go live in a country that has no regulations and it doesn't take long to appreciate the United States/Canada for what we have verses the inconvience for you. Sorry, to hear about the teacher, but come on. How many people die each year from drunk drivers. Natural selection...get used it. Coming to a forest near you. I'm not tree hugger, but I do like trees. let the bashing begin...
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actually,if the govt hadn't caved into pressure from the fur haters we would still have a bounty on wolves up here.our moose population would be way up compared to now.they also(under the term manage)have had so many cow moose hunts that there are areas that the moose population in almost gone.i now have to drive almost 100 miles,then use my 4 wheeler for another 50 miles to get into an area that still has big bulls.the biggest predator is NOT humans...it is wolves and their "regulations" i know lots of natives...to say they lived in harmony with the wolves is totally wrong....they WORE them..and still do...just my 2 cents worth.Bill w
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State has killed two of the suspect Wolves that /attacked/killed the young lady...
http://www.adn.com/2010/03/15/118482...sponsible.html They will be doing extensive tests on the animals to see if there is any DNA of the gal in the Wolves. Or that the Wolf DNA on her body matches. In either event, the fact that wolves attacked her is a good example of maybe too many wolves for the food supply and that is what caused the attack, so thinning the population will help keep them out of town looking for food/victims. In the off chance that they do get the wrong wolves, there will be more attacks on people because the wolves have found a new food source... and it was easy to take down. They learn very fast....
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the state of alaska has been pretty good about erecting their middle finger at the tree huggers lately on preditor control all species need control even humans game management is a balance most humans follow the laws so you can legislate their management other preditors must be culled to prevent ofer pouplation which will cause a decrease in bothe the population of the food sourcs and the preditors in anchorage you have a large population of wild animals roaming through town preditors like bears wolf and fox should not live around humans they carry raibees anditddosent take long for them to figure out humans dont have fur large teeth or claws just jucy flesh.
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