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Early HC supporter Mayo Clinic ain't taken Medicare anymore!

Big Dog

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Well ain't this special, great news for the new year! It appears now we won't be able to get the best HC coverage with the new HC reform unless we pay cash. Ain't even law yet and the backlash is starting. I wonder what the Mayo Clinic's opinion is now on HC reform? Could someone tell me why or how this reform bill is a good thing or what it's REALLY gonna cost? Just because they say you have HC doesn't really mean you have good HC. This Congress has to go!

Mayo Clinic in Arizona to Stop Treating Some Medicare Patients

By David Olmos

Dec. 31 (Bloomberg) -- The Mayo Clinic, praised by President Barack Obama as a national model for efficient health care, will stop accepting Medicare patients as of tomorrow at one of its primary-care clinics in Arizona, saying the U.S. government pays too little.

More than 3,000 patients eligible for Medicare, the government’s largest health-insurance program, will be forced to pay cash if they want to continue seeing their doctors at a Mayo family clinic in Glendale, northwest of Phoenix, said Michael Yardley, a Mayo spokesman. The decision, which Yardley called a two-year pilot project, won’t affect other Mayo facilities in Arizona, Florida and Minnesota.

Obama in June cited the nonprofit Rochester, Minnesota-based Mayo Clinic and the Cleveland Clinic in Ohio for offering “the highest quality care at costs well below the national norm.” Mayo’s move to drop Medicare patients may be copied by family doctors, some of whom have stopped accepting new patients from the program, said Lori Heim, president of the American Academy of Family Physicians, in a telephone interview yesterday.

“Many physicians have said, ‘I simply cannot afford to keep taking care of Medicare patients,’” said Heim, a family doctor who practices in Laurinburg, North Carolina. “If you truly know your business costs and you are losing money, it doesn’t make sense to do more of it.”

Medicare Loss

The Mayo organization had 3,700 staff physicians and scientists and treated 526,000 patients in 2008. It lost $840 million last year on Medicare, the government’s health program for the disabled and those 65 and older, Mayo spokeswoman Lynn Closway said.

Mayo’s hospital and four clinics in Arizona, including the Glendale facility, lost $120 million on Medicare patients last year, Yardley said. The program’s payments cover about 50 percent of the cost of treating elderly primary-care patients at the Glendale clinic, he said.

“We firmly believe that Medicare needs to be reformed,” Yardley said in a Dec. 23 e-mail. “It has been true for many years that Medicare payments no longer reflect the increasing cost of providing services for patients.”

Mayo will assess the financial effect of the decision in Glendale to drop Medicare patients “to see if it could have implications beyond Arizona,” he said.

Nationwide, doctors made about 20 percent less for treating Medicare patients than they did caring for privately insured patients in 2007, a payment gap that has remained stable during the last decade, according to a March report by the Medicare Payment Advisory Commission, a panel that advises Congress on Medicare issues. Congress last week postponed for two months a 21.5 percent cut in Medicare reimbursements for doctors.
National Participation

Medicare covered an estimated 45 million Americans at the end of 2008, according to the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services, the agency in charge of the programs. While 92 percent of U.S. family doctors participate in Medicare, only 73 percent of those are accepting new patients under the program, said Heim of the national physicians’ group, citing surveys by the Leawood, Kansas-based organization.

Greater access to primary care is a goal of the broad overhaul supported by Obama that would provide health insurance to about 31 million more Americans. More family doctors are needed to help reduce medical costs by encouraging prevention and early treatment, Obama said in a June 15 speech to the American Medical Association meeting in Chicago.

Reid Cherlin, a White House spokesman for health care, declined comment on Mayo’s decision to drop Medicare primary care patients at its Glendale clinic.

Medicare Costs

Mayo’s Medicare losses in Arizona may be worse than typical for doctors across the U.S., Heim said. Physician costs vary depending on business expenses such as office rent and payroll. “It is very common that we hear that Medicare is below costs or barely covering costs,” Heim said.

Mayo will continue to accept Medicare as payment for laboratory services and specialist care such as cardiology and neurology, Yardley said.

Robert Berenson, a fellow at the Urban Institute’s Health Policy Center in Washington, D.C., said physicians’ claims of inadequate reimbursement are overstated. Rather, the program faces a lack of medical providers because not enough new doctors are becoming family doctors, internists and pediatricians who oversee patients’ primary care.

“Some primary care doctors don’t have to see Medicare patients because there is an unlimited demand for their services,” Berenson said. When patients with private insurance can be treated at 50 percent to 100 percent higher fees, “then Medicare does indeed look like a poor payer,” he said.

Annual Costs

A Medicare patient who chooses to stay at Mayo’s Glendale clinic will pay about $1,500 a year for an annual physical and three other doctor visits, according to an October letter from the facility. Each patient also will be assessed a $250 annual administrative fee, according to the letter.

Medicare patients at the Glendale clinic won’t be allowed to switch to a primary care doctor at another Mayo facility.

A few hundred of the clinic’s Medicare patients have decided to pay cash to continue seeing their primary care doctors, Yardley said. Mayo is helping other patients find new physicians who will accept Medicare.

“We’ve had many patients call us and express their unhappiness,” he said. “It’s not been a pleasant experience.”

Mayo’s decision may herald similar moves by other Phoenix- area doctors who cite inadequate Medicare fees as a reason to curtail treatment of the elderly, said John Rivers, chief executive of the Phoenix-based Arizona Hospital and Healthcare Association.

“We’ve got doctors who are saying we are not going to deal with Medicare patients in the hospital” because they consider the fees too low, Rivers said. “Or they are saying we are not going to take new ones in our practice.”
 

muleman

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Wait till they actually see the "savings" they keep promising us. They will quit taking any medicare if it does not pay.
 

JEV

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Maybe all the extra doctors who are willing to take Medicare patients at ever increasing costs with insufficient reimbursement from the gubment, will come from the "Obama Youth" movement. You know who they are. The college kids who were brainwashed by their liberal, socialist professors, and pledged their allegiance to the messiah and his platform of "Change you can believe in." We could have our first welfare class of physicians who embrace the socialist agenda and work in support of equality for all people, regardless of their contribution.

Wow, I'm getting all goose-bumpy with excitement thinking that in a few short years my health care will come from someone who pays for his or her groceries with a gubment debit card and lives in section 8 housing. Oh, chit....I think I just had an orgasm over these thoughts. "Thank you, Barrack. Thank you Harry. Thank you Nancy. This is just what the Amerikan people need. You are so wise and compassionate. We bow before your altar of socialism."
 

jimbo

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Barry, Nancy, and Harry have already figured out a way to fix this problem.

Just cut a half tril from the funding and add a few more million recipients.

That'll fix it.
 

rc2james

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I can recall my mom having problems with Medicare because very few physicians, (either primary care or specialists), are willing to accept or agree to the Medicare payment as the full amount. My mother passed away in 1998 so this problem goes back a few years. From what I can glean from the Mayo Clinic in Arizona web site, they are no longer participating in the program to accept Medicare payments as 100% of the amount for coverage.
http://www.mayoclinic.org/billing-sct/medicare.html

Medicare has long been a source of contention among those who depend on it as their primary source for healthcare coverage. Costs for medical care has gone up exponentially over the years but Medicare has not adjusted their payment scales to keep up. As the general population in the United States ages, Medicare will have to see some major changes to keep up with the greater workload ahead.
I realize that I may have misread some of the information from the website and if so, I apologize. Many times, we find that what is written in any sort of document can be interpreted as something completely different by the author of these documents and what we as patients read.
 

SShepherd

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if you are a "participating" Dr. in medicare, you agree to the govt./medicare fee schedule as 100% payment ( which means medicare pays about 80% and a secondary insurer "might" pay the rest)

A medicare memmo that come out last month has a proposed 21% reduction in medicare reimbursement fees to Dr.'s.- no one is for sure how much medicare is going to cut, but they know it will happen.

I can see in the near future, many Dr.'s simply not accepting govt. healthcare/insurance as payment OR they will limit the ammount of Obamacare patients they will accept.
 
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