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So it's been announced this morning that the Pope is giving priests the power to forgive abortions.
Whatever happened to it being murder of the innocent and voiceless?
I mean, I realize that the church has undergone many changes under Francis, but I can't help but think that this is going to open up a can of worms that Mother Church does not need.
If you're a woman and you get an abortion, hey! it's okay. God is on your side with forgiveness.
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Default Re: Pope Francis extends Catholic priests' right to forgive abortion

Interesting twist PG.
Can a priest forgive murder? I never knew there were things a priest can vs cannot forgive. I'm obviously confused.
A priest forgives sins. All ten commandments if broken are a sin. If a priest can forget a murderer, that would seem the same as a woman who had an abortion to me.
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Default Re: Pope Francis extends Catholic priests' right to forgive abortion

Another example of the Catholic Church playing god. It's like they make up the rules as they go along. I was born a baptized catholic. Went to catholic school. Told how to think speak what to believe etc etc. Had a few hypocrite teachers and priests write me off and call me a useless cripple who will never amount to anything as a child all because of a bad accident when I was 5. I take anything coming from the Catholic religion with a grain of salt. The popes words might as well be written on toilet paper as far as I'm concerned.

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Another example of the Catholic Church playing god. It's like they make up the rules as they go along. I was born a baptized catholic. Went to catholic school. Told how to think speak what to believe etc etc. Had a few hypocrite teachers and priests write me off and call me a useless cripple who will never amount to anything as a child all because of a bad accident when I was 5. I take anything coming from the Catholic religion with a grain of salt. The popes words might as well be written on toilet paper as far as I'm concerned.

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This is my problem with this as well.
Recently the church also came out with instructions on cremation.
It's only permissible under certain conditions.

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Ad Resurgendum Cum Christo (To Rise With Christ), published Oct. 25, states that while cremation “is not prohibited,” the Church “continues to prefer the practice of burying the bodies of the deceased, because this shows a greater esteem towards the deceased.”
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Interesting twist PG.
Can a priest forgive murder? I never knew there were things a priest can vs cannot forgive. I'm obviously confused.
A priest forgives sins. All ten commandments if broken are a sin. If a priest can forget a murderer, that would seem the same as a woman who had an abortion to me.
God can forgive anything, Doc.
Anything.
I guess I'm just confused a lot lately on where the church is heading when it comes to the sanctity of life.
All life.
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Interesting twist PG.
Can a priest forgive....
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Default Re: Pope Francis extends Catholic priests' right to forgive abortion

We were discussing forgiveness in our bible study the other day, and I was surprised to hear that on his last day Jeffery Dahmer made confession and asked to be forgiven. Whether true or not I do not know, But I was told that if you really believe in God and accept Jesus as your savior you're in like Flint.

I gave up on the cathoilic church years ago and have been only going back to a church service recently. It isn't catholic, but kind of a non denominational service.
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God can forgive anything, Doc.
Anything.
I guess I'm just confused a lot lately on where the church is heading when it comes to the sanctity of life.
All life.
Still PG, so we agree God can forgive anything. And forgiveness by a priest implies forgiveness by God.
So what is the diff, if God / priest can forgive a murderer, why not forgive a person that had an abortion? Aren't both the same (in many eyes)? It's the same sin they have committed.
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God can forgive anything, Doc.
Anything.
I guess I'm just confused a lot lately on where the church is heading when it comes to the sanctity of life.
All life.
That's another issue I have with the whole catholic thing. I confess my sins to God. Not another man or woman just as sinful as me.

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Seems liberalism is devouring the Catholic Church just like it's cancer devours everything else it comes in contact with.

If the pope thinks murder is OK with him and all it takes is a few Hail Mary's to make it all better again he is a misguided fool.

I am glad he is not the leader of my church, because he has it all wrong, again.
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Still PG, so we agree God can forgive anything. And forgiveness by a priest implies forgiveness by God....

Err,............ No, it doesn't.

In fact, nowhere in the Bible is a priest even mentioned,in relation to a church.

Deacons,.... yes
Aldermen,..... yes
Bishops,....... yes

Priests,..... No

A Priest being a "go-between" between man and God is strictly a Catholic fabrication.
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Default Re: Pope Francis extends Catholic priests' right to forgive abortion

The Catholic Church is mentioned in the Revelations. Anyone know what Im speaking about? You will understand why the Pope is saying these un-Godly things.
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Default Re: Pope Francis extends Catholic priests' right to forgive abortion

The word Catholic refers more to just the religion involving priests the pope etc. In the bible the word Catholic means all-encompassing. The church of god in it's entirety.
I attend an Anglican church or Episcopal down in the states. Before the Eucharist we say the apostles creed in which it says the words"I believe in the holy Catholic church". When I first started going there i didn't understand what that meant so I asked our Archdeacon. She informed me of the above definition and that the bible is for ALL baptized christians. Not just the Catholic religion hence the definition of Catholic in the bible meaning all encompassing church in its entirety which is comprised of all baptized christians and not just one group of christians.
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I think Pope Francis is being bought off by someone. We know there are lobbyists in Washington, DC bribing our politicians. I think the same thing is happening in Rome.

Y'all remember Pope Francis washing a muslim's feet?
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