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Old 04-11-2011, 11:13 AM
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Default Gay Caveman Grave Proves Cavemen Smarter Than Many Americans

I guess it is not an Onion type site and thinks this reporting style has some merit. I found it really funny as I do this piece.

But one thing I noticed that aint funny, the authors attempt to paint all the people who are against gay marriage as Christian radicals by refering to 43% etc, then at the end of the article mentioning the Wesboro nut jobs. Why that is aobut like implying all Moslems are murdering nut jobs..........ooops, got carried away there. But it is exactly the same thing.


http://www.good.is/post/gay-caveman-...any-americans/


Archeologists in the Czech Republic have discovered what they're calling the first homosexual caveman:

The male body – said to date back to between 2900-2500BC – was discovered buried in a way normally reserved only for women of the Corded Ware culture in the Copper Age ... with its head pointing eastwards and surrounded by domestic jugs.

Previously, a female warrior from the Mesolithic period was found buried in the style of a man, again suggesting that she was a homosexual. Lead archeologist Katerina Semradova is calling these types of graves "transsexual" or "third gender" graves, and she adds that "people from this period took funeral rites very seriously so it is highly unlikely that this positioning was a mistake."

If Semradova is right, not only do we have evidence that modern culture isn't making people gay—as some conservatives would have us believe—we've got proof that at least some caveman cultures treated gays and lesbians with respect.

Just last year, 43 percent of American adults said they believed homosexual relations are "wrong." And gays are well aware that that intolerance can lead to violence: In 2009, nearly 1,500 members of America's LGBT community were attacked because of their sexual orientation, and those are just the cases about which the law knows. Elsewhere, around the world, many gays and lesbians are murdered as a matter of routine (a vile brand of hatred to which the United States is certainly not immune). In other words, not only can many people still not find it within themselves to believe that a man loving another man is not "wrong," many can't find it within themselves to not want to hit or kill a gay person.

This is 2011. The skeleton found this week is nearly 5,000 years old, and it showed no signs of a violent death. The gay caveman was buried with dignity according to the rituals of his community, and he rested in peace for millennia.

If you ever had an inkling that cavemen were more advanced than the Westboro Baptists, you were right.

UPDATE: A few anthropologists, including one Kristina Killgrove at the University of North Carolina, have been challenging the use of the word "gay" in this context. Also, it seems "caveman" is not the best label. "Gender transgressive proto-human" might be more accurate.
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I equate this with comments in art museums about artists long dead. They write a six paragraph explanation of how the artist felt while he was painting a certain work when for all they know in fact it could have been a dropcloth.

As far as the LGBT community goes, my stand is, no problems with "L's" or "G's", I do wonder about "B's" commitment when you spend your time going back and forth. My problem is with "T's" I say do what you have to do to make up your mind. When you decide what you want to be then I'll respect your decision. Until you figure out which club you want to join stay in the damn closet.
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another bullshit lefty passing off opinion as fact.
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another bullshit lefty passing off opinion as fact.
another bullshit righty passing off opinion as fact.
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another bullshit righty passing off opinion as fact.
you wanna stick to the topic skippy? or did you even read the article in the op ? if you want to insult me, then don't do it back handedly

I suggest youread more, that way you don't look so ignorant

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/europe...ial/index.html

"We believe this is one of the earliest cases of what could be described as a 'transsexual' or 'third gender grave' in the Czech Republic," the Czech Position newspaper quoted archaeologist Katerina Semradova as saying at the press conference.
What followed were dozens of headlines from international news organizations declaring that a "gay caveman" had been found.
The man's skeleton was found placed on its left side with the head facing west -- traditionally the position in which females in the culture were buried. Around the remains were items also typically associated with female burials instead of weapons normally found in male graves from that time period. Two other conventional male and female graves were found at the same site.

But Hawks and others say the news media misinterpreted the findings.
First, cavemen lived about 30,000 to 20,000 years ago. The remains found last week were from the Neolithic Age, about 5,000 years ago, Hawks told CNN.
And while acknowledging the "unusual" circumstances of the burial, Hawks said there is no way you can tell someone is homosexual by examining a skeleton

The takeaway from the viral reporting? "Don't talk to British tabloids," Hawks said.

http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/TopStories...n-find-110409/

News of the grave site find in Prague has spawned worldwide headlines that give the impression that the discovery of the skeleton is a historic event.
But not everyone thinks the media should jump to such broad conclusions.

Rosemary A. Joyce, a professor of archaeology at the University of California at Berkeley, said it is possible that the buried person may have had a gender that was not definitively male or female, or perhaps a body type that was outside normal expectations.
found "an Writing on her personal blog, Joyce said it seems the Czech archaeologists have more accurately anomalous burial" in a culture that typically buried its dead in one of two styles.
Joyce also disputes the use of the term "caveman" in media reports about the Prague skeleton, because it is simply not old enough to qualify for such a description.
The archaeologists do acknowledge that there are many things they don't know about the people living in the Czech Republic towards the end of the Stone Age.
Semradova said the Czech Republic would have been an agricultural society back then and its people would have originated from parts of Eastern Europe.
They would love to "talk to somebody who lived then, but it's not possible," Semradova told CTV.ca in a recent telephone interview from Prague

"gay" has nothing to do with transexuall or the ancient world-- this is pure media hype and bullshit. No agenda behind the media to validate homosexuallity, by trying to like it to "caveman" ? For an archeologist (scientist) to make such a speculation based on 1 situation would almost certainly end a career- which is why the media added the gay spin to it, but I have a feeling she's going to be linked to it for the rest of her career.

lol, even the bible says homosexuallity exsisted in "ancient times"- but I'm sure thats not a book they want to reference
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"you wanna stick to the topic skippy? or did you even read the article in the op ? if you want to insult me, then don't do it back handedly

I suggest youread more, that way you don't look so ignorant"

my, my, a bit full of youself huh?
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"you wanna stick to the topic skippy? or did you even read the article in the op ? if you want to insult me, then don't do it back handedly

I suggest youread more, that way you don't look so ignorant"

my, my, a bit full of youself huh?
per your own posts to me previously--

if your not going to post something productive to the topic, then don't post

you've added nothing meaningful to the thread
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he repeated the same words you said back to you, and you want to get your panties in a bunch?

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he repeated the same words you said back to you, and you want to get your panties in a bunch?

I wasn't directing my insult at you, but at the writer of the article. I'm pretty sure directing insults at fellow forumites is against the rules.
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I wasn't directing my insult at you, but at the writer of the article. I'm pretty sure directing insults at fellow forumites is against the rules.
Oh, ok sorry, I insulted the writer too then.
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I was busy on my other site and forgot what I was talking about. You flip DaveNay off with the little smilie guy and called him ignorant. dave is a nice guy and I am sure can take care of himself, but why do you treat people like you do? Seriously?
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I was busy on my other site and forgot what I was talking about. You flip DaveNay off with the little smilie guy and called him ignorant. dave is a nice guy and I am sure can take care of himself, but why do you treat people like you do? Seriously?
You sure are acting like Anthony Weiner today. It's like you're suffering from an erection lasting four hours or more, and need a testosterone release. Does Viagra do this to you all the time, or are you naturally confrontational?
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I was busy on my other site and forgot what I was talking about. You flip DaveNay off with the little smilie guy and called him ignorant. dave is a nice guy and I am sure can take care of himself, but why do you treat people like you do? Seriously?
attack me, expect me to say something back..simple as that.

besides, I would expect someone who claims to be as educated as you do would understand what the word "ignorant" means.

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treat people like I do? indeed Mr. Pot. I said nothing to him, he percieved it as an attack on you-as you did. Are you always paranoid and self centered ?
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Let it go Shep.
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Back on Topic.
We can tell the approximate age of a person when they died we can determined how long ago they lived. We can usually detrmine what diseases they suffered from and what killed them. But, sorry, no way we can determine their sexual orientation unless they are buried with a sign saying "I'm a homosexual, please abuse my bones".
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I posted the article because on first blush I thoght the site was like the onion. I guess it is, but not intentionally. The other story was very funny and I stilll think this one is very funny.

Funny in that the author would try to make the statement he did with the evidence he presented.
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