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Remember the 'shoe' incident in Iraq?
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The Tourist
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Ya' know, I hate to say this, but I agree. I'm tired of pork projects and public statements made under the guise that it's American.
Well, I'm an American. Part of a group JFK branded, "A new generation of leaders, born in this century." And in that spirit, the public statements on our conduct should reflect at least some of my beliefs. And they don't. There's only one thing to do, and that's to correct this wrong.
We must shut down exhibits, public forms of that expression, and facilities which do not reflect that sentiment.
We must close down The Statue of Liberty.
The Tourist
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It's already happened, it's the Confederate Battle Flag.
As many of you know, I'm a strident, unabashed supporter of The Struggle for Southern Freedom.
We revere momentos of our grandfathers who fought in WWII, we even make light of the antics of Pappy Boyington.
But we seem to gloss over the fact that many loyal and courageous figures in history died for "the stars and bars." Shouldn't they be honored as well?
The old Orwellian idea of "those who control the past will control the future" is clearly becoming the way we handle ideas we don't like. Despite the fact that JFK did nothing in office except create the Peace Corps, we assign him the honor of "Camelot." It was LBJ that pushed those ideals into law.
Would we still even have the concept of 'states rights' had not so many brave southerners sacrificed their lives?
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They are trying to be a free nation. He is mad at Bush for something and that is their way of showing anger. Can you imagine throwing a shoe at Sad am or his sons?
I would run out of shoes if I went to Washington, DC.
I would run out of shoes if I went to Washington, DC.
The Tourist
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I have not been to that site, but I am happy to hear that this tribute has been done.
In fact, now that you mention it, the monument of Crazy Horse in South Dakota would also be an example.
When approached for the project, a chief made the comment that he wished people to know that Indians had heroes, too.
But I must also admit that as an older man I'm getting a bit more careful with other peoples' histories. Perhaps it's from my Father taking me to museums when I was a young boy.
The ironic thing about the Lee statue is that they put it close to the tree line where Picket's charge was launched. I wonder if there are simlar monuments to him where he had overwhelming victories (versus defeats), such as Manassas or Chancellorsville.Maybe there's no underlying message to the monument's location, but when you consider that Arlington cemetary is located on what used to be Lee's farm, it kinda makes ya wonder ......
If it's socially acceptable to fly the flag of a former enemy like Mexico over your home/business because your forebears came from Mexico, then why is it "Racist" to fly a Confererate Battle Flag if your forefathers fought for the Condereracy? 
Could there be a bit of hypocrisy here?
Could there be a bit of hypocrisy here?
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If it's socially acceptable to fly the flag of a former enemy like Mexico over your home/business because your forebears came from Mexico, then why is it "Racist" to fly a Confererate Battle Flag if your forefathers fought for the Condereracy?
Could there be a bit of hypocrisy here?
YUP
The Tourist
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I'm okay with that, but you guys do know that the flag at a pizzeria is just for decoration, don't you? I mean, we're not facists or opening an Italian Embassey. It's just for decor and a splash of color.
The confederacy was made up of White Christian Males. Therefore by definition, it was evil and racist.
The Mexican government is made of native heroes that have never done anything corrupt or illegal.
The Tourist
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I would like to point out that we stole Texas fair and square, and we were standing inside a mission church when we did it.
Texas fought for and gained independence from Mexico, just like the original colonies gained independence from England.
The Tourist
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Yeah, but Locutus, my version is funnier and irks illegals.