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Angry Obama supporters spit on Romney supporters ~ WTF?

OK we can all disgaree or we can agree or whatever, but seriously why is it that the folks on the left seem to be so uncivil?

Here is a link to video of a Romney supporter being spat upon by an Obama supporter. http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/...in_650154.html

Within the past week we also had 2 female protestors in Iowa try to get on stage with Paul Ryan and one of them hit a secret service agent.

At the Iowa state fair a couple anti-war Obama supporters were reported to have pushed and hit WWII and Korean War veterans!

In Washington DC a GLBT supporter was prevented from mass murder inside the offices of a pro-family organization. The same organization was labled as a "hate group" by the Southern Law Policy Center, a group that historically supports liberal groups and typically frames conservatives as radicals, hate mongers, etc.

The OCCUPY MOVEMENT has been credited with drug dealing, multiple rapes, murder, wanton destruction of public property and even taking a s**t on a police car.

Why all the violence from the LEFT?
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They are part of the "act up" generation and think violent protest is OK to achieve their goals. Unfortunately today's DOJ has no inclination to prosecute anyone and often overrules local judicial officials if they do arrest and charge them. Basically a get out of jail free card for their BS. To me they are a product of liberal parenting and teaching and are a bigger threat than many they oppose.
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They are part of the "act up" generation and think violent protest is OK to achieve their goals.
The "spitter" in the video was 83 years old

And while I didn't mention the protests in Wisconsin by the teachers union against Gov. Walker, many of those protestors were middle aged. They committed many actions of criminal tresspass, personal assault, property damage, etc.

I will bet that most of the violence from the left is done by younger people, but there is certainly plenty of evidence that older liberals are also destructive and dangerous toward others.

Again I ask, where is the civility among the liberals?
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I hardly think that one individual doing something nasty to another individual is a solid basis for the title "Obama supporters spit on Romney supporters". I think a more appropriate title would be, "asshole spits on another guy". I'm an Obama supporter and I've never spit on anyone.
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I hardly think that one individual doing something nasty to another individual is a solid basis for the title "Obama supporters spit on Romney supporters". I think a more appropriate title would be, "asshole spits on another guy". I'm an Obama supporter and I've never spit on anyone.
I'm NOT an Obama supporter but I agree with you on this one but you have to admit that a headline of "Obama Supporter Spits On Romney Supporter" isn't going to garner many readers. It's much better to exaggerate the situation and lead potential readers into thinking it was a total phlegm fest.

What's the sentence for belting an 83-year old? .... self defense, I hope.
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I'm NOT an Obama supporter but I agree with you on this one but you have to admit that a headline of "Obama Supporter Spits On Romney Supporter" isn't going to garner many readers. It's much better to exaggerate the situation and lead potential readers into thinking it was a total phlegm fest.

What's the sentence for belting an 83-year old? .... self defense, I hope.
Well let's just see. Laying out the FACTS in the TITLE and then shown in the video:

1 Obama supporter spit on 1 Romney supporter.

Now that seems to me that the title is ACCURATE. I then followed up the title and the initial video with a bunch of other information about liberals being violent, disruptive and generally uncivil. All of that is accurate too.

So YES, I do agree, someone spits on you then its reasonable to defend yourself. Afterall, there are diseases like HIV that can be spread by spitting on others. Further, spit on a cop and you will be charged with assault.
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The "spitter" in the video was 83 years old :
Most likely living the glory years of Vietnam protesting . Asshat !
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Well let's just see. Laying out the FACTS in the TITLE and then shown in the video:

1 Obama supporter spit on 1 Romney supporter.

Now that seems to me that the title is ACCURATE. I then followed up the title and the initial video with a bunch of other information about liberals being violent, disruptive and generally uncivil. All of that is accurate too.

So YES, I do agree, someone spits on you then its reasonable to defend yourself. Afterall, there are diseases like HIV that can be spread by spitting on others. Further, spit on a cop and you will be charged with assault.
violent, disruptive and generally uncivil??? You really think that's factual? How many liberals do you know? As a liberal, with liberal friends and a liberal family, I have nothing but disdain for violence or unnecessary lack of civility. I'm not disruptive.

additionally, just as an FYI... no one has ever contracted HIV from being spit on.
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violent, disruptive and generally uncivil??? You really think that's factual? How many liberals do you know? As a liberal, with liberal friends and a liberal family, I have nothing but disdain for violence or unnecessary lack of civility. I'm not disruptive.

additionally, just as an FYI... no one has ever contracted HIV from being spit on.
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violent, disruptive and generally uncivil??? You really think that's factual? How many liberals do you know? As a liberal, with liberal friends and a liberal family, I have nothing but disdain for violence or unnecessary lack of civility. I'm not disruptive.
Perhaps you are not disruptive but I think its fair to say that Jesse Jackson is disruptive. Its fair to say Fr Michael Pfleger is disruptive. Its fair to also admit that Rev Al Sharpton is disruptive. And while all 3 of those religious leaders claim to abhor violence they each have made many statements that have, at very least, incited others civil disruption.

Generally speaking, the progressives are far more disruptive than the conservatives. Go to any Tea Party rally and then go to an Occupy event. Which one leaves trash everywhere? Which one is the cite of multiple rapes and assaults?

What about Obama divisive speaches that seek to divide the nation instead of joining us together?

What about the Animal Liberation Front, the violent arm of PETA? What about the Humane Society of the US and its members who disrupt legal hunters, not just with protests but also with bullhorns and even remote controlled drones!

What about the 10:10 Campaign in Enland? What about the Sea Shepherd boats disrupting legal whaling?

I could list dozen of events where progressives used intimidation or violence. Like just a few days ago the shooter who tried to commit mass murder in Washington DC at a conservative pro-family organization.



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Go spit on a cop. You will be charged with violent assault. I rarely hear of anyone other than drunks, druggies and progressives who spit on police officers.
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All three of the people you mentioned are disruptive attention whores and I dislike them all. PETA is not a "liberal" organization they are a domestic terrorist group. I attended an Americans for Prosperity rally in June, and was verbally assaulted when I was honest about my feelings about the group. I was simply there with a camera, I wasn't disruptive at all, but I had people stand in front of my camera so I couldn't take pictures and was called all manner of names. I live in Montana, i'm a gun owner, I hunt. I'm educated, I vote, I am politically active locally and nationally. I think the root cause of this confusion is the fact that people assume too much about "liberals". We are not all the same.

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Perhaps you are the isolated progressive who is non violent.

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All three of the people you mentioned are disruptive attention whores and I dislike them all. PETA is not a "liberal" organization they are a domestic terrorist group. I attended an Americans for Prosperity rally in June, and was verbally assaulted when I was honest about my feelings about the group. I was simply there with a camera, I wasn't disruptive at all, but I had people stand in front of my camera so I couldn't take pictures and was called all manner of names. I live in Montana, i'm a gun owner, I hunt. I'm educated, I vote, I am politically active locally and nationally. I think the root cause of this confusion is the fact that people assume too much about "liberals". We are not all the same.

And to the poster who asked if I was special... Yes, I am. thanks :)
Ha, a liberal in Montana. That's about as crazy as a Tea Bagger in Vermont.
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... I then followed up the title and the initial video with a bunch of other information about liberals being violent, disruptive and generally uncivil. All of that is accurate too ...
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violent, disruptive and generally uncivil??? You really think that's factual? ...
Actually, what he said is completely factual. He posted a bunch of information about some self-described "liberals";
while it is possible to read into that an attack on all those who consider themselves to be "liberals", that is not what was
actually said.

BTW, it's always nice to meet someone who self-labels as a "liberal" who is also an erudite gun owner! I personally
believe the "liberal" label has been hijacked by those better called socialist progressives, people barely removed from
Marxists.

The simple fact is that the Reids, Pelosis, and Obamas have taken what was once an honorable appellation and turned
it into something nasty.
We need to find a better political label for folks such as yourself; having no suggestions myself, I'm
open to any that you or anyone else here might have.

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I'm entirely comfortable with the progressive, liberal label. It describes my political and social frame of mind well.

I'm afraid I have to dismiss anyone who believes I might be an "isolated" non violent liberal, because that is just silly. I find it no different than someone who says maybe there is one Man who isn't a dick. Or One woman who doesn't cheat. Or One black person who doesn't commit crime. Or One blonde who isn't an airhead. I tend not to get along with people who make sweeping generalizations, and are proud of it. I won't waste my time or yours'.

I come from a very traditional family. Both parents, married 42 years. 2 siblings. Native Montanan's. My father is career military and my mom stayed at home with the kids. My brother is gay, my sister has a child, and I have a lovely fiance and several 4 legged kids. I don't fit into many generalizations. If you'd like to get to know me, for me, I welcome you. If you'd rather shove me into narrow, preset, categories... don't bother.
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I'm entirely comfortable with the progressive, liberal label. It describes my political and social frame of mind well.

I'm afraid I have to dismiss anyone who believes I might be an "isolated" non violent liberal, because that is just silly. I find it no different than someone who says maybe there is one Man who isn't a dick. Or One woman who doesn't cheat. Or One black person who doesn't commit crime. Or One blonde who isn't an airhead. I tend not to get along with people who make sweeping generalizations, and are proud of it. I won't waste my time or yours'.

I come from a very traditional family. Both parents, married 42 years. 2 siblings. Native Montanan's. My father is career military and my mom stayed at home with the kids. My brother is gay, my sister has a child, and I have a lovely fiance and several 4 legged kids. I don't fit into many generalizations. If you'd like to get to know me, for me, I welcome you. If you'd rather shove me into narrow, preset, categories... don't bother.
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I come from a very traditional family. Both parents, married 42 years. 2 siblings. Native Montanan's. My father is career military and my mom stayed at home with the kids. My brother is gay, my sister has a child, and I have a lovely fiance and several 4 legged kids. I don't fit into many generalizations. If you'd like to get to know me, for me, I welcome you. If you'd rather shove me into narrow, preset, categories... don't bother.
Well then, that pretty much gives us here on the forums a general rundown of what you're all about and who you are.
Didn't mean to push you to make an intro thread..
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lol, no one pushed me into anything. It's much easier to get all of that out of the way upfront. I have nothing to hide and I'm comfortable in myself. I may stick around, though I won't hold my breath that I'll grow on anyone
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I would have to say that cdajen is not an isolated progressive, but is one of millions of progressives who are are not violent. The vast majority are not violent or physically aggressive. The small percentage of the progressives who are violent hurt the cause and they get all the headlines.
From what I've seen the progressive side does have more members who attempt to get their message across with violence.
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From what I've seen the progressive side does have more members who attempt to get their message across with violence.
Clearly true.

And if you look at the history of political destruction and political violence in the United States its full of progressives/liberals/etc who have chosen the path of destruction and/or violence to achieve their actions.

And if you look at the history of media reporting of destruction and/or violence in the United States its full of progressive/liberal reporters who try to blame the conservatives for acts of violence . . . only later to find out that the acts were not actually committed by conservatives.
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