Prepping for biological disaster

m1west · Mar 16, 2020

I think I am going to fill up the tanks on my 5 ton today as that would be another 100 gallons of diesel in storage. I am praying our situation turns out more like South Korea and not Italy. If it turns out like Italy I see being on the mountain in the future. In concentrated areas it would be floating in the air. You defiantly would not be safe in an apartment building. I am now quarantining my mail for 24 hours before touching or opening.
My sister lives about 30 miles east of LA and over the weekend she called me twice, Saturday to tell me the stores are cleaned out and on Sunday when she was in a line wrapped around the building talking to people that came out saying that the T/P is already gone and not much food left. I think if LA, SF or some other major city explodes with cases there would be a run on the gas stations for getting out of town and generators then after that folks would be running out of gas on the freeways and streets jamming everything up to only worsen the supply chain. Marty

m1west · Mar 16, 2020

m1west said:
I don't want to sound tin hat but more main stream financial news outlets are now warning that if the world does not get this under control in rapid fashion it could be the black swan event that brings down the world economy.

Trading on the DOW halted again - 2250 points down this morning total -30% off since slide started.

m1west · Mar 16, 2020

m1west said:
Trading on the DOW halted again - 2250 points down this morning total -30% off since slide started.

Gold and silver prices are sharply down too. I can see silver as it is used in Manufacturing that is shuttered but Gold is also off?? Are people liquidating to see what happens and are scared to go to the Market or Metals at this time??

tiredretired · Mar 16, 2020

m1west said:
Gold and silver prices are sharply down too. I can see silver as it is used in Manufacturing that is shuttered but Gold is also off?? Are people liquidating to see what happens and are scared to go to the Market or Metals at this time??

I read somewhere the reason Gold is down is that people are selling it off to raise capital to pay off the loans on the stocks they borrowed money to buy. Now that is one financial owey. I really see no other logical reason to sell Gold right now.

tiredretired · Mar 16, 2020

m1west said:
I think I am going to fill up the tanks on my 5 ton today as that would be another 100 gallons of diesel in storage. I am praying our situation turns out more like South Korea and not Italy. If it turns out like Italy I see being on the mountain in the future. In concentrated areas it would be floating in the air. You defiantly would not be safe in an apartment building. I am now quarantining my mail for 24 hours before touching or opening.
My sister lives about 30 miles east of LA and over the weekend she called me twice, Saturday to tell me the stores are cleaned out and on Sunday when she was in a line wrapped around the building talking to people that came out saying that the T/P is already gone and not much food left. I think if LA, SF or some other major city explodes with cases there would be a run on the gas stations for getting out of town and generators then after that folks would be running out of gas on the freeways and streets jamming everything up to only worsen the supply chain. Marty

I am doing the same thing. I have a PO box that I will now check once a week, which was this morning. The mail is in the garage DECON for 24 hours.

I also change out my Carhartts in the garage and slip into my one piece Boba Fett PJ's. :th_lmao: Just kidding of course, they are not one piece. :smile:

m1west · Mar 16, 2020

TiredRetired said:
I read somewhere the reason Gold is down is that people are selling it off to raise capital to pay off the loans on the stocks they borrowed money to buy. Now that is one financial owey. I really see no other logical reason to sell Gold right now.

Jeez that is a scary thought, buying stocks with borrowed money. Thats like going to the pawn shop to buy lottery tickets WTF. :shitHitFan:

tiredretired · Mar 16, 2020

m1west said:
Jeez that is a scary thought, buying stocks with borrowed money. Thats like going to the pawn shop to buy lottery tickets WTF.

I was thinking the exact same thing, M1. If the stars line up, one can make some money quick in that bull market, but when they do not, ouch.

m1west · Mar 16, 2020

Out of curiosity I just checked the dow January 2017. Its the same as today. So All of the stock market gains made in the Trump presidency are now wiped out. :hammer:

m1west · Mar 18, 2020

m1west said:
Trading on the DOW halted again - 2250 points down this morning total -30% off since slide started.

Trading halted 4 times now, down another 1800 points this morning :shitHitFan:

tiredretired · Mar 18, 2020

When all this started I told my wife the Dow would bottom out around 15,000. I am hardly an expert, just one of my hunches. Currently at 19,500 and trading halted again by automatic circuit breaker.

Melensdad · Mar 18, 2020

I'm thinking 18,000 but that may be optimistic

m1west · Mar 18, 2020

Melensdad said:
I'm thinking 18,000 but that may be optimistic

Damn I hope so, but more than that I hope its not so far gone that it can not rebound or this shit comes back every year with the same affect. I don't want to be a doomsday alarmist but sticking your head in the sand is not good advice at this time either. They are talking a possible 18 month duration with waves, and shortages and are not sure if it goes away in the summer or after you get it you are immune. If any of those things come to pass will be a game changer.

EastTexFrank · Mar 18, 2020

TiredRetired said:
When all this started I told my wife the Dow would bottom out around 15,000. I am hardly an expert, just one of my hunches. Currently at 19,500 and trading halted again by automatic circuit breaker.

You know when stock market prices swing wildly like they have been that it's the big boys, the big institutions that make all the money off it and they are making trillions while we small investors get stuffed … again. They dump all they have in the market and the market, being nervous anyway, craters and drops several thousand points. Next day they pour all that money back in to the market and drive it back up … at which point they sell and start the cycle all over again. It's like taking advantage of a thousand or 2 thousand point market gain every 2 days. They're making a killing!

Melensdad · Mar 20, 2020

One of the ultra-liberal/socialist fencing coaches, and his ultra-liberal/socialist wife, both reached out to me today asking to learn how to shoot.

Hmmm....

m1west · Mar 20, 2020

Melensdad said:
One of the ultra-liberal/socialist fencing coaches, and his ultra-liberal/socialist wife, both reached out to me today asking to learn how to shoot.

Hmmm....

Make them grovel and tell you how wrong they were first. Just kidding they are probably scared and after shooting they will most likely enjoy it and go buy a gun. It took a pandemic but what ever works.

EastTexFrank · Mar 21, 2020

Melensdad said:
One of the ultra-liberal/socialist fencing coaches, and his ultra-liberal/socialist wife, both reached out to me today asking to learn how to shoot.

Hmmm....

Oh! I love this. This is the epitome of my Scottish grandson who hates guns with a passion but who sleeps with a claymore under his bed. I told him that I love him dearly but if he wants to use 3,000 year old technology against me, I'll just shoot his ass. He wasn't too impressed.

tiredretired · Mar 22, 2020

Well them being ultra liberal communists, I would assume the first lesson on page 1 would be to show them which end of the firearm to point downrange.

Then the lessons may progress from there. :smile:

tiredretired · Mar 22, 2020

EastTexFrank said:
Oh! I love this. This is the epitome of my Scottish grandson who hates guns with a passion but who sleeps with a claymore under his bed. I told him that I love him dearly but if he wants to use 3,000 year old technology against me, I'll just shoot his ass. He wasn't too impressed.

Ahhhhmm, why exactly?

EastTexFrank · Mar 23, 2020

TiredRetired said:
Ahhhhmm, why exactly?

Because he's in Scotland in the UK and they don't have many choices on how they defend themselves. Technically having the claymore is an offense but since my great grand daughter does Highland dancing it's in the gray area that the police want to avoid unless you use the claymore to chop someone to death.

Melensdad · Mar 23, 2020

Mary Kitchen Corned Beef Hash :hammer:

In a normal year I might eat 3 or 4 cans of corned beef hash. If we go out to breakfast 6 or 8 times a year, I'd probably eat corned beef hash on half of those occasions. So figure I eat some sort of corned beef hash 1 day every 6 or 7 weeks.

There are a dozen cans sitting in my food storage and I'm in a panic that I will run out of hash! I don't know why but my body is craving this stuff. Comfort food? Some irrational desire? In the past week I've eaten it twice and I literally wake up craving it.

I need more hash :smileywac

Are you craving any particular food yet?

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tiredretired · Mar 23, 2020

Melensdad said:
Mary Kitchen Corned Beef Hash

In a normal year I might eat 3 or 4 cans of corned beef hash. If we go out to breakfast 6 or 8 times a year, I'd probably eat corned beef hash on half of those occasions. So figure I eat some sort of corned beef hash 1 day every 6 or 7 weeks.

There are a dozen cans sitting in my food storage and I'm in a panic that I will run out of hash! I don't know why but my body is craving this stuff. Comfort food? Some irrational desire? In the past week I've eaten it twice and I literally wake up craving it.

I need more hash

Are you craving any particular food yet?

:th_lmao::th_lmao: I have had that stuff and I must agree with you it is not bad at all. Two poached eggs on top is a breakfast that will stick to your ribs, I can tell you that.

The only food that I just cannot ever run out of is Peter Pan Peanut Butter. I currently have 4 of those huge jars I rotate.

Well, the Governor is going to mandate forced house arrest starting on Wednesday. So.........the wife and I decided to hit the supermarket at 6AM in the morning for the two hour senior citizen opening.

She is shopping for her parents and I will shop for us. Originally, we were going around the first of April, but decided to push things up a week due to the circumstances. I plan to not only replenish what we have used the last two weeks but improve on some things. Yes, more Peanut Butter will be coming home. :th_lmao:

BTW, if that is your go to feel good food, no way 12 cans is enough. For peace of mind you need more than that and right now we need all the peace of mind we can get.

EastTexFrank · Mar 24, 2020

Yea, I must admit that I have 4 cans of corned beef hash in my stash. It's not something that we eat a lot of mainly because my wife doesn't eat stuff like that but for me it's "man comfort food". Maybe when we get into the third month of this it'll appear on the menu.

XeVfTEUtaAqJHTqq · Mar 24, 2020

Damn, I've never eaten canned corned beef hash and now I think I need some.

tiredretired · Mar 24, 2020

It's been quite a Day 12 of house arrest. Woke up at 3:30 in the morning to 12" of snow. So, outside a little after 4 and cleaned the driveway.

We headed out to the supermarket at 5:30. Some of the roads were plowed and some had a foot of snow on them. The Jeep got us there with no issues.

Got to the supermarket a little early and no one waiting. The doors opened a bit early and we were the only ones there for a bit. Guess the weather had them spooked.

My prepping was spot on! Just about everything we keep on hand and did not need today was completely sold out. TP, PT, canned meats, soups, bread, hamburg, sanitizer. I got the last Jar of giant sized PB. I did not need it as I already have plenty, but screw it. The mere thought of running out of peanut butter scares the bejeezus out of me.

The only thing I needed kind of bad that they did not have is yeast. Apparently that is another scarce item. I found some imported Italian Yeast on Amazon that comes in April 3.

As a side note, the checkout lady said, when I paid cash for the grocs, that corporate is considering going credit card only to save the gals from handling infected money. I told her the money was clean as a whistle, in that I had just printed the bills last night. She kinda looked at me funny over that one. :th_lmao:

m1west · Mar 24, 2020

I have everything I need but will continue to keep the freezer full and get milk up town until either they don't have it or it gets to scary to go get it. So far staying home isn't all that bad.
I broke it up with a trip to the work cabin ( straight there and back with no stops) and last week with some ammo loading and shooting with the wife.
Its been raining so have a shit load of yard work to keep me busy along with a few projects I have going. Mr Trump should just bite the bullet and force everyone to stay home with fines or what ever not to violate your rights. There are to many of those to stupid or selfish to do the right thing and unless everyone does it will keep poping up and spreading around. If it just slow rolls for months everything will be ruined. Like the bandage just rip it off.

Melensdad · Mar 24, 2020

m1west said:
I have everything I need but will continue to keep the freezer full and get milk up town until either they don't have it or it gets to scary to go get it. So far staying home isn't all that bad.
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I feel the same.

I'm using the grocery pick up service to replenish + buy even more. Added a 12 pounds of meat on Sunday, another 12 pounds yesterday, and ordered another 12 pounds today. We don't eat it that fast!!! But I'm finding creating "stuffing" and my method for packing it all into the freezer.

Sunday we used the service for the first time to try it out. See if it was 'contact free' and it actually worked.

So yesterday on my way home from dropping off shotshells I pulled into the parking place at the supermarket and they brought my stuff out, put it into the trunk and off I drove.

Today I need to visit the drive-thru window at the bank to make a deposit. My pick up time is scheduled for 4pm for groceries. So I'll hit the bank about 3:30. Drive over to the store, get more food, and then return home. Ordered 4 more cans of Mary Kitchen Corned Beef Hash along with some potato chips and some real food too!

Everything that is SHELF STABLE stays in the garage while its sprayed down with lysol and packed away. Meats that get repackaged come inside, packages washed. Opened. Packages go into a trash bag. Bulk sizes broken down and into Seal-A-Meal vacuum bags. Original packaging, which is now sealed inside a trash bag, goes outside to the trash. Kitchen cleaned, body showered.

JimVT · Mar 24, 2020

local pick up groceries store stopped the beer outside. now you need to enter to buy it.
really strange going to town. picked up my taxes .all the waiting chairs except two were removed . no magazines.

EastTexFrank · Mar 24, 2020

Lack of groceries isn't the problem now.

Slept late this morning but when I got up I went to the bathroom to brush my teeth … NO WATER!

The main 8" line is broken and they can't say when they will have it repaired. It's getting more like Armageddon every day.

Melensdad · Mar 24, 2020

EastTexFrank said:
Lack of groceries isn't the problem now.

Slept late this morning but when I got up I went to the bathroom to brush my teeth … NO WATER!

The main 8" line is broken and they can't say when they will have it repaired. It's getting more like Armageddon every day.

I'm actually surprised you are on municipal water!

XeVfTEUtaAqJHTqq · Mar 24, 2020

The great toilet paper scare of 1973 lasted 4 months ...
https://priceonomics.com/the-great-toilet-paper-scare-of-1973/

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