Looking for plans (to build mini-tracked vehicle like in this video)

hey there thats a interesting idea has any one out there tried to use conveyor belting to make tracks or track splices wonder what it would be cut with ?????
Tim

Cut it with a utility knife, punch bolt holes with a hole punch.
It's a pretty common track material.
The cutting and punching belt would be the easy part of building a machine from scratch. Fabricating grousers and wheel guides would be much more time consuming.

Sorry, I was thinking Hagglund, but what I meant was BV202.
http://www.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=...&ndsp=23&ved=1t:429,r:6,s:20&biw=1152&bih=710

Consider a Ranger made by NP Arnold in the 70's. They come in narrow and wide track. The narrow will actually fit in the back of a full size pickup. I have a wide track one for snow removal. Get one with a roll cage or add one. They are small enough you can do a head plant when going over the edge of large drift... I've done it. Had to repair the snow blade that time. It has attachment points on underbody for mounting a blade. Built my own easily. There are similiar ones made by other companies around the same time. There are pictures here.

If anyone is interested I'll take detailed photoes of my Ranger. I can capture all the major details, like use of off the shelf spindles and hubs. The original manufacturer is long gone so no source of plans. This vehicle really is piece made, out of off the shelf components. It even avoids using a drive sprocket by using a snow tire to drive the track!

Off the shelf...
The rear end, what is it out of?
Is it a limited slip?
Why does it not just pull on one side and constantly try to turn one way or the other?

I am contemplating building a rig, similiar to an otter/thiokol imp/ranger but the third member is a sticking point for me.
The drive sprocket is a sticking point also, but that is just a question of how much the war dept. will not know, I mean, will allow me to spend.

down where you live an old guy guy named dick out there at willow built one like you are talking about you should go up and talke a look and chat with the old guy about the shortcommings of that desighn

go for a Passe Partout or a Playcat. something along those lines then upgraded the engine and drivetrain... If I keep mine that is the plan.. here is a couple sites with more info
http://www.joesgarage.us/PPT.htm

http://timwafer.com/ppt.html

here is the thread on mine, have not done much on it as got busy with other priorities. will get to it at some point heh http://www.forumsforums.com/3_9/showthread.php?t=36245&highlight=passe+partout

i have raid track for the oldest boy that's the plan for that one also if you can buy a cushman trackster a honda motor and a ring and pinion change makes a nice little conversion.

fubar said:

Off the shelf...
The rear end, what is it out of?
Is it a limited slip?
Why does it not just pull on one side and constantly try to turn one way or the other?

I am contemplating building a rig, similiar to an otter/thiokol imp/ranger but the third member is a sticking point for me.
The drive sprocket is a sticking point also, but that is just a question of how much the war dept. will not know, I mean, will allow me to spend.

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Let's start at the front. The engine is an big old single cylinder Kohler. A more modern V would be better. You want good torque, turns are very demanding of the engine. The clutch is automotive type. There is a small 3 speed gear box. The drive shaft goes through a shield to the differential in the rear. Differential output goes to each side, of course. There are external support bearings and a drum brake mounted. It is just mechanical with long arms going to driver up front. There is a custom chain box to compensate for auto size drive tire. These are snow tires that engage the tire guides on the track, more or less. The drive wheel uses what appears to be the hub from a rear wheel drive car. Those pull straight out with shaft attached, making it easy to adapt to this use. Non-driven wheels use trailer spindles, hubs, and wheels. Track is 2 conveyer belts held together with straight angle iron grousers outside and wheel guides/backing plates inside.

As to all the power going to just one side, that only happens if other side is freely spinning. And tracks do not like to spin. Turns are done by changing drive ratio between sides. Brake steering converts one sides drive to heat making it move slower. Controlled differential, like older Bombardiers, create a gear ratio difference between the sides. Hydraulic drive sends more flow to one side to turn. Because flow adjustment is infinite you make very tight turns. If the control valve includes reversing then you can turn in place. Neat, but VERY hard on the track.

If I were doing one like the Ranger I'd start with a good garden tractor, like an old Cub Cadet. They are the only one's with drive shaft. My perference would be hydrostatic drive, makes it much easier mechanically. Especially as CC puts hydrostatic drive and differential in same case. The brake discs are mounted on the differential output, so easy to incorporate for steering. The rest is custom chain drive for proper ratio and support.

Personally I don't like brake steeing, it wastes power, you have to keep the engine at fairly high rpms and it needs to have a governor. If I were doing it I would go with hydraulic pumps, controls, and motors driving sprockets. Surplus hydraulic pumps and drives from zero turn radius mowers is an idea. But they are too weak for any serious use. Adjustable volume pumps are nice but expensive. You can use a fixed pump with flow control valve. These can be found where the unneeded flow is dumped into a return line. Use one drive motor for each side. If you do the all the ratios right no mechanical gearing needed. Best to have each side independant. Two pump sections bolted together is best, just like used on skid steers. They bolt directly to the engine with a mount adapter. Sprockets can be purchased off the shelf, heavy castors or wheels support the track. Bombardier rubber support wheels are the simplest and completely of the shelf.

I still want to build one of my own, but just don't have the time.

Check out Surplus Center for cheap parts.

I found an interesting home built on an old thread. The guy used snowmobile parts etc. Really nice. The thread is here. Here is a video of it:
Homemade Snowcat

Hello my name is Joshua smith I sell the plans for the personal Tracked Vehicle plans for 10 dollars i will email or mail hard copy . Email if interested Smith813fl@yahoo.com

Hello my name is Joshua i have the plans for sale for 10 dollars i will email them or hard copy mailed. Email me if interested smith813fl@yahoo.com

TrackedVehiclePlans said:

Hello my name is Joshua i have the plans for sale for 10 dollars i will email them or hard copy mailed. Email me if interested smith813fl@yahoo.com

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Why Josh, Post us a picture of the one you built from your plans and you just might drum up some orders.


Scotty

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRPHT9wm5cI&feature=endscreen&NR=1"]Personal Tracked Vehicle - YouTube[/ame]
that is a vid on youtube i filmed awile back.

TrackedVehiclePlans said:

Personal Tracked Vehicle - YouTube
that is a vid on youtube i filmed awile back.

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Looks fun, but on a rough trail it may beat you to death... Do you have plans for making it longer and with a suspension?

Looks like fun, but I'm after a little more substantial machine.