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So potty training is not going well. On the bright side almost all accidents are happening on the tile floor. I'm using the same method as when I trained the Akitas but it doesn't seem to be working yet. He does sleep in our bed and sleeps through the night without a problem. He goes outside immediately when he wakes up in the morning AND after every nap he takes. And I take him out constantly while he is awake too. Praise each time. But I don't think he's getting it and clearly not asking to go outside.

I've had all 3 of our Akitas trained in 3 to 4 days. We are at about 40 hours in our house and I see no signs of understanding.



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Now, with Mitty, we are back to 2 dogs in the house again
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I was a bit like you when we got our youngest one several years ago. I'd always house trained our dogs in a matter of days but Gypsy, our lab cross, just never seemed to get it. Then I realized that she was entirely over thinking the problem. Her favorite place to go was in the master bathroom and it struck me that is where she goes because that is where she knows that I go so it had to be OK for her to go there too ... right? Once I figured that out, it was simple. I kept her on a long training leash in the house and she was always with me, except when I went to the bathroom. As soon as she showed signs of needing to go, we went outside. That was it. She finally put two and two together and never a problem since.

As I said, sometimes really smart dogs over think the problem.

By the way, for the last 20-years we have been at least a two dog household. For a long time we had 3 dogs but I think that 2 is much more manageable. I don't think that there will ever be a day when we don't have at least one.
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I was a bit like you when we got our youngest one several years ago. I'd always house trained our dogs in a matter of days but Gypsy, our lab cross, just never seemed to get it. Then I realized that she was entirely over thinking the problem. Her favorite place to go was in the master bathroom and it struck me that is where she goes because that is where she knows that I go so it had to be OK for her to go there too ... right? Once I figured that out, it was simple. I kept her on a long training leash in the house and she was always with me, except when I went to the bathroom. As soon as she showed signs of needing to go, we went outside. That was it. She finally put two and two together and never a problem since.

As I said, sometimes really smart dogs over think the problem.
I walked outside and pee'd off the edge of the patio. I feel better
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I walked outside and pee'd off the edge of the patio. I feel better
I used to do that too when I was house training Gypsy.
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Bob - Got to thinking about this when I found myself doing it yesterday.

Consider teaching the dog hand signals. This breed seems to recognize them easily.
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Bob - Got to thinking about this when I found myself doing it yesterday.

Consider teaching the dog hand signals. This breed seems to recognize them easily.
Well I can't get him to understand his name, so maybe American Sign Language is what I need to do to communicate with this dog

We had 1 Akita that was trained to both voice and/or body/hand signals. Another Akita was moderately trained to both as well. And our 3rd Akita, he was just lucky he was cute and lovable

The Aussie Shep is a challenge. Seriously. A challenge. He doesn't really seem to understand much. He is barely starting to understand his name. Not much more.
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Dog is killing me.

I take this dog out 20, seriously 20 times a day. He pees 18 of those 20 times and gets praised. We talk about it in advance, I try to reason with him. Blah blah blah

We go out, he pees in the yard, he gets praised. He comes inside, not 5 minutes pass, there is a damn puddle on the floor.

Or, I catch him mid stream on the tile floor, scream shout have a kanipshon fit, carry him out, he finishes in the yard, gets praised. Comes back inside, 10 minutes pass, there is a damn puddle on the floor again.

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Why not just leave him outside most of the day? Might get the hang of doing his business out there and marking his territory.
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Why not just leave him outside most of the day? Might get the hang of doing his business out there and marking his territory.
In ground pool is in the fenced 'dog yard' and until I know 1) he can swim or 2) he will stay away from the pool, there is no way I'm leaving him unattended in the yard.

Plus the fact that its been raining almost constantly lately, pretty miserable outside.
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I think I picked the 'slow' dog from the litter.
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That might make it hard from the beginning but may turn out to be in your favor in the long run.

These Aus Shepards, Border Collies and similar breeds are really smart which can be a PITA at times since they're constantly underfoot wanting you to give them something to do. Mine is mixed with Lab which calms her down quite a bit.
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He tried to poop in front of the living room TV today. I jumped, shouting, scooped him up, carried him outside and scared the poop back inside him???

Walked around with him for 20 min ... no poop.
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when naming my dog it was a toss up between general lee or sgt Kelly my wife told me I was no longer in the military so the kids liked the dukes of hazard I named him Boss Dog. my youngest's little chick magnet, we call sarge used to follow me in to the voting booth when I was casting a vote for Hillary. he was smart enough to figure out what I was doing in there, if no one takes him out during the day, we will find a donation to hillarys foundation on the floor, right in front of the throne. I haven't scolded him for it as it is easy to clean up there.
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Just thought I'd give a Mitty update.

Guess its been about 3 weeks and this dog still is NOT house broken. Oh, he's a lot better than he was, but damn. Seems like things are worse when there is a lot of activity in the house, he gets excited and just pees where he stands. As I frequently baby-sit 2 additional dogs I notice that when there are 4 dogs in the house things are worse than when its just Walter & Mitty home with me.

Honestly the 1st week we had him I simply don't believe he was able to control his bladder sufficiently to be housebroken. He now is able to reasonably control himself and is now reasonably aware that he is supposed to go outside but sometimes he just doesn't.

Its very frustrating. I had him at the Vet this morning for regular shots and discussed it with the Vet. She indicated that I'm doing the right stuff, but suggested that I may want to add a food treat as a reward when he does his business outside. Guess its worth a try.
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The food treat might be a good idea. Our dogs still get a food treat when they go outside, do their business and get back in the house. The other thing that I did with Gypsy was that when she wasn't tethered to me by a leash, she was crated and she never messed in her crate. She got out of the crate to go outside to do her business, got a treat when we got back inside and went back in to her crate. I know that it sounds cruel but it really isn't. She loved that crate and even when she had the run of the house she would go back in it to catch a nap. She felt safe in there.
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I am a crate fan. My wife is not. So we don't use crates. Much to my dismay. We did with all 3 Akitas and our Malamute. Worked great.


Oh, and I forgot to mention that on the way home Mitty got car sick. Literally at the end of the driveway. Barfed in my lap.
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Oh, and I forgot to mention that on the way home Mitty got car sick. Literally at the end of the driveway. Barfed in my lap.
That sounds so much like our Gypsy. I feel so sad for her. She can't make it to the vet and back or even in to town without honking. The only reason that I keep the old van is to transport her around. It's 20-years old and she can't do anything to hurt it. What makes it so sad is that we have to kennel her when we go off on RV trips. The other dog loves to travel. If she thinks that you are going in the car/van/truck or RV she is right there, ready to go.

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Mitty came running upstairs today. Got into the bedroom, YAPPED in pain, sat there holding up one of his paws in the air.

Not sure what he did.

Been trying to keep him calm all day. He is lightly limping. When he's excited he will run and shows no sign of pain but when he is walking you can see he is favoring his front left leg.

Not sure what the vet can do. The local vet keeps SUNDAY hours, 10am to 5pm. No added fee for showing up. So we are going to see how Mitty does the rest of the day and tonight. If needed he will be going into the doggy doctor tomorrow morning.



On the bright side the potty training seems to have taken a turn. At least when I am home. No accidents in the house when I am around.
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2 dogs went to the Vet's office

2 dogs stopped at Starbucks to share a cup of water

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