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NATO in tizzy after Trump tells members: 'You gotta pay your bills'

Jim_S

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July 6, 2018
NATO in tizzy after Trump tells members: 'You gotta pay your bills'
By Monica Showalter
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https://www.americanthinker.com/blo...fter_trump_says_you_gotta_pay_your_bills.html

President Trump made an impassioned speech about the United States' generally worthless allies, the ones in NATO who promise to spend 2% of their GDP on defense and then go their merry way, spending it on padded welfare benefits for migrants instead. The U.S. picks up the tab for that stuff, and then Europe's intellectuals have the nerve to deride the U.S. for its giant defense budget. Amazing how that works.

Trump called them out on it in Montana yesterday. Breitbart reported him saying this:

"I'm going to tell NATO, 'You gotta start paying your bills. The United States is not going to take care of everything,'" he said to loud cheering from the crowd in Great Falls, Montana.

...and oh, what a fluttering, clucking, chicken-feather response over in the NATO coop. Here is the top story in Mike Allen's Axios lineup for this morning:

President Trump's harsh blast at NATO during a rally last night in Helena, Mont., was Europeans' worst nightmare come to life, Western diplomatic sources tell Jonathan Swan and me:

  • Trump portrayed the alliance as one-sided, transactional and bad for the U.S.
  • He seemed to suggest that U.S. military support is conditional on the Germans paying more, calling out "Angela" – the German chancellor.

The president's views on NATO and trade are inseparable: He believes that, as he said in Montana, Americans are "the schmucks paying for the whole thing."

  • Trump re Europe: "[T]hey kill us on trade. They kill us on other things. ... [T]hey kill us with NATO. They kill us."
  • He sees both as examples of international systems set up to screw the U.S. And now he's going around the world with his hand out, collecting what he sees are America's dues.

Axios includes a copy of the letter President Trump sent to Norway's prime minister, so politely, politely, gently, and diplomatically asking the Nordic state to up its NATO commitment to the level it signed on to and then ignored. That's worth looking at here. https://www.axios.com/newsletters/axios-am-818f1d96-3564-4417-8a18-8c9cbb51a023.html

Worst nightmare? Come to life? A request to pay bills? So bills are for other people to pay? Why this is cause for outrage is amazing.

Trump asks them to pay their bills, to honor their treaty commitments, and they have a cow? They call it their worst nightmare come true? Why don't they just say "we're working on it" and follow through? Trump isn't the hardest guy out there if someone is actually trying. Instead, they launch a P.R. campaign to claim that Trump doesn't love them.

Maybe it's time for them to consider some real nightmares, such as a Russian invasion. Russia isn't just annoyed at all the land it lost in the outrageously bad deal it got in the wake of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics' breakup in 1991-1992. It's still pretty mad about all the tsarist empire it lost, too, and sometimes President Vladimir Putin waxes nostalgic for getting that stuff back. This being Putin, he probably wants to best the tsars anyway. That should be what concentrates Europe's minds and incentivizes these wealthy states to honor their defense commitments.

Instead, they are hollering about Trump and demanding more of the free ride they've always gotten. It's amazing how they can imagine that the blame for this situation is on Trump. Why indeed was that diplomatic correspondence, which only reflects well on Trump, released? Did they really think it would win hearts and minds here? Maybe it's time for these childish partners to learn a few things about honoring contracts. Their outrage is the result of their own bad choices.
 

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Melensdad

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Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Spain and several others are not doing their part to fund NATO.

The Financial Post of Canada published this editorial criticizing Trudeau and says its embarrassing that Canada is not doing its part.

https://business.financialpost.com/...Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1530882402


Canada has a fine military to be proud of, but Ottawa has been a laggard when it comes to support for its own defence and for NATO.

U.S. President Donald Trump just sent tough letters demanding that Canada and the other NATO allies live up to the two per cent of GDP spending commitment they made at their Wales summit meeting in 2014. This will be the subject of intense discussion at next week’s NATO summit.

The President’s letter said the U.S. “is increasingly unwilling to ignore this Alliance’s failure to meet shared security challenges.” He added that while he appreciates Canada’s contributions to defence around the world, they “do not excuse any of us from our commitments to ensure NATO has the resources it needs.”

“This frustration is not confined to our executive branch,” the letter continued. “The United States Congress has taken note and is concerned as well.”

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Prime Minister Justin Trudeau allegedly replied that Canada is doing its bit, but he’s dead wrong.

He, like all his predecessors, have repeatedly ignored American requests to pony up more. In June 2016, the diplomatic former President Barack Obama also made it clear that Canada was not doing its part and said in his speech to Parliament: “The world needs more Canada and NATO needs more Canada.”

Adjustments should have been made years ago, but were not. Now, with an aggressive president in the White House, countries like Canada need to pay up.

Only two non-NATO allies get it: Australia and Japan. What Trump is saying is fair: The cost of being the world’s policeman and its gigantic US$800-billion annual trade deficit are both unsustainable and unjust.

By contrast, Australia (not a NATO member but reliant on U.S. military help) puts Canada to shame and will reach defence spending of two per cent of GDP by 2021. Already, Australia is spending twice as much as Canada — roughly $35 billion in 2018 — compared with Ottawa’s paltry $17 billion.

Frankly, this is embarrassing and explains why Trump is so upset.

Japan, also not a NATO member, realizes it is dependent upon U.S. military protection and Prime Minister Shinzo Abe is abandoning its domestic military sector and going on a buying spree for American-made weaponry, systems, and technology. This will also dramatically reduce its trade surplus with the U.S.

Meanwhile Canada, without any bargaining position in terms of trade because of its failure to even try to meet NATO commitments for four years, pouts and whines about Trump and his team, thus threatening to damage Canadians and ruin the two countries’ relationship for years to come.

The link between trade and defence contributions is totally clear. U.S. Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin last week said if NATO member countries are seeking exemptions from U.S. steel and aluminum tariffs they will be asked to step up their contributions to NATO.

Canada’s on the bottom third of the NATO spending list:

U.S. 3.6% of GDP
U.K. 2.1%
Greece 2.25%
Poland 2%
Estonia 2.25%
France 1.75%
Canada 1.25%

Meanwhile, Germany, Italy and Spain are laggards that spend less than Canada.


Germany is under huge pressure to get its act together and is faced with the withdrawal of 35,000 American troops.

“The United States continues to devote more resources to the defence of Europe when the continent’s economy, including Germany’s, are doing well and security challenges abound. This is no longer sustainable for us,” wrote Trump to Chancellor Angela Merkel.

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rugerman

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If the don’t pay their fair share give them a ultimatum, either pay up or we are going to quit paying our share and let you take up the slack.
 

mla2ofus

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If Trump gets all the NATO members in line and paying their share, then he needs to get on the UN's collective ass about paying their fair share!!
Mike
 
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