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This is something to buy to "prep" if you happen to have an extra million & a half to spare.
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Well, it was bound to happen sooner or later, my EX-Friend, whom we shall call Jack, stopped by again today and wanted to enumerate on his position about preppers in light of this recent incident in Colorado.
I told him that he was severly uninformed and suggested that he check out this site, to see what good people who prep are all about.
So Jack, this ones for you.
One of these photos is what people who prep are all about.
the other is what people like the Jack Ass in Colorado are all about.
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Most can goods will last a few years at worse and longer at best, dried beans, pastas etc will also hold up.. Many things like cooking oils etc will keep for decades if stored properly in cool dry dark locations. Also food like I buy, gourmet MRE will keep for longer than I will live even if I lived till 100.

Now I agree with you for the most part but also prepareness requires some means of keeping what you have especially if sociatity crashes around you. Not the picture of the safe full of guns is a bit over kill to say the least. I suggest 2 high powered hunting rifles suitable for large game in your area, 2 shot guns ga you are comfortable with for smaller game and self defense, a pair of hand guns larger calibers such as 45 Colt, 45 ACP and up as well as a couple of smaller calibers 22LR to 32 for varmint and small game guns. Now I say 2 of each all same calibers due to possible failure with a backup. Same caliber and common ones at that due to the possible need to find ammo eventually. I also suggest a number of hunting knives and good set of kitchen cutlery as well as a good sharpening kit. I also suggest a good hand press such as the Lee though others out there for sure for making ammo with in a bind. Learn to make black powder so pick calibers such as older ones that can shoot it as well as guns. Also get guns easy to repair, learn to do it and get extra parts that break. Black powder is fairly easy to make but somewhat dangerous however when the SHTF life will be meaningless to many out there roaming that are left so everyone will be forced to accept a bit more danger in their lives. So food and protection are really 2 sides of the same coin as having one and not the other won't mean much.
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I agree with you Joe, I have what I consider ample weapons and ammunition should the Zombies from L.A. head this way, I am also quite connected with local law enforcment, both of which I consider to be essential.
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I love hamburger helper, my wife wont make it for me, she likes to cook.
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Man I hope you got at least half a beef ground and froze for all that helper. Where is the tuna and Spam?
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Now if the SHTF for real then I wouldn't depend on LAWS except those of nature, survival of the fittest. I also wouldn't stockpile lighters, matches other than short term supplies of them. I would forget about modern technological things like phones, electricity, running water as well as fossil fuels. Though many of these things may last a short while in comparison as to how long it will take the world to come back (think centuries if at all) these items will become useless as well gold, silver and other means of barter. Clothing, foods and weapons will become the driving force. I suggest learning to make a fire without these modern items (matches and lighters) and they sell bunches of fire starter kits used centuries ago that work fine.

Law and order is the first thing to go when and if it all falls down, I've seen it else where in my life on a smaller scale but if it happens now it will be world wide in my opinion. I'm hoping it won't but also believe in being prepared if possible for at least the rest of my life.
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how u gonna cook, then.......
i was a girl scout. they made us learn nature. half my friends prefer camping/nature. others, weapons. i have flints & zippos from my Pap's era. not to mention a few other things. wisdom passed on is only 1 of 'em.
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Man I hope you got at least half a beef ground and froze for all that helper. Where is the tuna and Spam?
This is not a photo of my stock, My wife won't let me eat Hamburger helper.
I borrowed these photos from the internet just to make a point.
I do not and never will need as many weapons and ammo as are seen in the second photo.
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i've many military & weapons fanatics literally surrounding me... i'm safe...... food is secondary. lemme shush.
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i was a girl scout. they made us learn nature. half my friends prefer camping/nature. others, weapons. i have flints & zippos from my Pap's era. not to mention a few other things. wisdom passed on is only 1 of 'em.
Well man cooked for thousands of years without matches, zippos etc. Lots of ways to start a fire with stones, sticks etc. Once the fire is started you can cook on it. Now it may not be what you are use to eating with nice gravies, and the fancier foods but it will keep one alive.
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joe, i know that, geez. this isn't castaway. i think it's great to keep these items. if i can't use them, i can't use 'em. so be it.
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joe, i know that, geez. this isn't castaway. i think it's great to keep these items. if i can't use them, i can't use 'em. so be it.
The point I was making luvs is these things only last so long and at your age you will live probably longer than those items will meaning you will need to plan on other methods if not sooner then later.

For example I have an old method use in the 1800 when even then matches was hard to come by. It will start a fire pretty quick using flint and a stone. Now the piece of flint would last me a life time however probably not someone in their 40 or below. I still have a second piece of flint to go with it and fits nicely in ones pocket if needed. I've had it for years as matches get wet as do lighters and once water gets them they don't work. Disposable lighters in direct sun light can die in a couple of weeks used or not, as the butane will evaporate right out of the sealed plastic cases. I've had it happen to me in indirect sun light though it takes a bit longer it happens.
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[QUOTE=joec;554588]The point I was making luvs is these things only last so long and at your age you will live probably longer than those items

shouldn't make these assumptions. people can pass @ any time. i get ur point. i got it ages ago. i know how to live via the land & how to contend w/ the elements. my Grandpa & life taught me well. i know how to run, fight circumstances like u dunno,..... too many ppl severely underestimate others sometimes.
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Well, it was bound to happen sooner or later, my EX-Friend, whom we shall call Jack, stopped by again today and wanted to enumerate on his position about preppers in light of this recent incident in Colorado.
I told him that he was severly uninformed and suggested that he check out this site, to see what good people who prep are all about.
So Jack, this ones for you.
One of these photos is what people who prep are all about.
the other is what people like the Jack Ass in Colorado are all about.
You figure out which is which, after you do, call me.
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Goode Preppers are ready for more than TSHTF. There is the possibility of complete civil breakdown yes. But more likely is the possibility of a natural disaster interupting the flow of goods and services to areas. Can you say Katrina? Can you say Tsunami?

Prepers are ready for the calamity of a natural disaster more than WTSHTF. At the point of civilization breaking down, one can hope an armory will protect and feed them but that is a faint false one. Food and supplies will be of far greater value than 20,000 rounds for the AR-15.

Most supplies will last damm near forever. Things you wouldn't think about perhaps. But, when the local Kroger chain is gone,,,,,there will be a cold shocking reminder for lightbulbs, Toilet paper, soap, cooking oils, candles, kerosene, paper towels, cloth towels, plastic food wraps, mason jars, aspirin, medicines, bandages, isopropyl Alchohol, aliminum foil, Salt, nails, tarps,,,,,,,,,,on and on. None of these things are perishable. Almost all are important for the ongoing processes of living.

Even if your plan is to be a hunter gatherer.

Food for six months, tools and supplies for 6 years. Same shelf life. Both important.

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i must agree, franc. i'm prepped to bolt either way. i've gone sans h2o due to main breaks. well prepped 4 those. already located the storm cellars i'd get to quickly. & i've got all these rain boots fer a reason.
we need non-perishables- not just food- i began stocking those quite awhile ago. my best friend would be a crowbar & a knife if it gets to that. i tend not to get an item that won't last thru a planned attack or a natural occurence, both.
think soap. detergent. razors. simple items like a hairbush & good scissors, unless ur a hippie. & the things on franc's list.
when/if the food is gone, u'd damn well better know how to identify an edible plant & where to find 'em, take a deer or wabbit or other animal that u can make dinner from w/ a weapon appropriate to the animal, & skin/gut it (hence, get a good knife & learn to use it), & have fishing skills.
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Goode Preppers are ready for more than TSHTF. There is the possibility of complete civil breakdown yes. But more likely is the possibility of a natural disaster interupting the flow of goods and services to areas. Can you say Katrina? Can you say Tsunami?

Prepers are ready for the calamity of a natural disaster more than WTSHTF. At the point of civilization breaking down, one can hope an armory will protect and feed them but that is a faint false one. Food and supplies will be of far greater value than 20,000 rounds for the AR-15.

Most supplies will last damm near forever. Things you wouldn't think about perhaps. But, when the local Kroger chain is gone,,,,,there will be a cold shocking reminder for lightbulbs, Toilet paper, soap, cooking oils, candles, kerosene, paper towels, cloth towels, plastic food wraps, mason jars, aspirin, medicines, bandages, isopropyl Alchohol, aliminum foil, Salt, nails, tarps,,,,,,,,,,on and on. None of these things are perishable. Almost all are important for the ongoing processes of living.

Even if your plan is to be a hunter gatherer.

Food for six months, tools and supplies for 6 years. Same shelf life. Both important.

Be ready. Be well.
That is so true which is the need to keep some short term (about 3 months). I know based on going through Hurricane Andrew and losing every thing I owned. Luckily we didn't lose our lives as some did. It was a week before the national guard showed, a week with very limited medical care, no electricity, water or phone service for 3 to 9 months depending on in Homestead or on the fringe. Looting started and soon ended due to those that own something there. The LEO where useless and overwhelmed like every one else for the most part and was rarely seen at all till the national guard showed up.

We had water, canned goods and I took the small propane stove out of what was left of my place as well as 6 propane tanks so we could heat canned foods up at least. It took my wife and I 9 months to find a place to rent 100 miles for either of our jobs which luckily we still had as they where south and north of the storm.
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