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Why the most expensive military ever still ......

Bamby

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Lot of folks think you can't throw enough dough at the Military but there is such a thing as enabling waste also, and the article makes some valid points....

Why the most expensive military ever still can’t win a war

A friend who used to work in the Pentagon told me about the end of year budget meetings he had to attend. There, military personnel would frantically brainstorm ideas on how to spend the rest of their budgets. If they didn’t spend every cent, next year’s budget would be cut.

“Popcorn makers?” someone suggested. “Or perhaps some sort of group outings, to an event or a show.”

“Why don’t we return the extra money, since we clearly don’t need it,” my friend suggested.

The way he tells it, the tension in the room was palpable. Who was this asshole suggesting that they don’t use their entire budget?

I can’t remember what they decided to spend the money on. But they definitely used it. He said he would often come across unused equipment in the Pentagon that seemed out of place… and conclude that it must have been to eat up budget surpluses.

This anecdote shouldn’t be surprising. The military only seems to pinch pennies when it comes to taking caring of veterans who have sacrificed their physical and mental health for the Pentagon.

The Air Force spent $300,000 over the last few years on coffee mugs. But these aren’t just any coffee mugs. These attach to an airplane’s control panel, and keep the coffee hot! Soup too–they will keep soup hot as well. Quite versatile.

And each mug only costs $1,200. Which is strange, since I remember my dad getting a similar device for Christmas one year that plugged into the cigarette lighter in the car. And I can’t imagine my mom spending more than $29.95 on such a gift.

But sadly, these examples of waste are absolutely trivial compared to the overall waste in the Defense budget.

Defense spending hit $716 billion dollars last year. That’s four times larger than China’s and ten times Russia’s military budget.

And despite that, a new report suggests that the USA could lose a war with China and Russia. The report was compiled by the National Defense Strategy Commission, which was formed by Congress and includes former high ranking military officials.

The picture of the national security landscape that the 12-person commission sketched is a bleak one, in which an American military that has enjoyed undisputed dominance for decades is failing to receive the resources, innovation and prioritization its leaders need to outmuscle China and Russia in a race for military might reminiscent of the Cold War…

“The U.S. military could suffer unacceptably high casualties and loss of major capital assets in its next conflict. It might struggle to win, or perhaps lose, a war against China or Russia,” the report said. “The United States is particularly at risk of being overwhelmed should its military be forced to fight on two or more fronts simultaneously.”
The report’s recommendation: lift caps on military spending. Let the budget grow even higher.

Despite acknowledging that vast funds spent, massively outpacing rival nations, the commission still thinks that throwing more money at the military will solve the problem.

Perhaps we can buy off any attackers will free popcorn and warm in-flight coffee. Because at this point, culinary tools seem to be the US military’s biggest strength.

Failing to receive enough resources? Really?

According to David Vine’s book Base Nation: How U.S. Military Bases Abroad Harm America and the World, the US spends at least $156 billion annually just operating it’s 800 foreign bases dispersed around the world.

But has anyone assessed whether these bases still have a valid defense mission and if they are accomplishing that mission? America still has hundreds of bases in Germany, Japan, and South Korea. America likely has more bases in foreign countries than any other empire in history.

Vine claims that foreign bases only weaken America long-term, as they stir up tensions and anti-American sentiment in otherwise peaceful parts of the world. And that’s more than a fifth of the military budget right there.

But at least that money can be accounted for.

At least $6.5 TRILLION in Pentagon spending cannot be tracked. There are no receipts for what the money was spent on, or where it went. And this does not include the budget items they deliberately keep secret for black-ops.

Among the budget items that can be tracked are jaw-dropping price tags like $720 million on late fees for unreturned shipping containers, and $5 billion worth of unneeded warehoused spare parts.

But even the equipment they do use is vastly overpriced.

Orders for copies of the F-22 Raptor were reduced by 70 percent, but total acquisition costs decreased by only 14 percent. Per unit costs nearly tripled, from $139 million to $412 million per airplane.
The overall picture forming of the US military is of blundering incompetence. It is a large unaccountable bureaucracy. It has no incentives to spend less money, and countless pressures from defense contractors and their lobbyists to spend ever more.

Meanwhile, throwing more money at these problems is insane. Lack of funding is clearly not the problem. Increased funding could even invite more bad actors, scammers, and fraudsters into the fray. When you have that kind of cash to hand out, and no accountability, it creates a situation rife for corruption.

And the saddest part of all is the opportunity cost for American taxpayers.

We are talking about almost a quarter of the entire US budget here…

Imagine how strong the economy would be if that money stayed in the hands of the American people.

It wouldn’t be wasted on useless overpriced parts. It wouldn’t fatten the bank accounts of defense contractors.

It would be spent by families and individuals on whatever they most needed–better education for their kids, healthier food, fulfilling travel, investment, or just much needed saving for retirement.

Instead, the money is worse than wasted–it actually gives us a false sense of security and makes America less safe.

You don’t have to play by the rules of the corrupt politicians, manipulative media, and brainwashed peers.


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FrancSevin

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The presumption here is that if we didn't spend the money on useless military "stuff" that by returning it to the gubmit they would spend it wisely.:unsure:
I would suggest that presumption is laughable.


I would also suggest that such tactics by department heads to "spend the budget" is normal, even in the private sector. I am often awarded contracts, and sent payment, for products I have yet to produce ( sometimes unknown) by clients who must spend their budgets to keep them.
Having been in the corporate sector, the private sector, and dealt with military contracts, this is not necessarily a bad thing.
 

Bamby

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The presumption here is that if we didn't spend the money on useless military "stuff" that by returning it to the gubmit they would spend it wisely.:unsure:
I would suggest that presumption is laughable.
I would also suggest that such tactics by department heads to "spend the budget" is normal, even in the private sector. I am often awarded contracts, and sent payment, for products I have yet to produce ( sometimes unknown) by clients who must spend their budgets to keep them.
Having been in the corporate sector, the private sector, and dealt with military contracts, this is not necessarily a bad thing.

And how do you feel if I may ask when liberals find so-called excess in the budget and use it to fund "endowment or the arts" or perhaps "planned parenthood"? :smile:
 

FrancSevin

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And how do you feel if I may ask when liberals find so-called excess in the budget and use it to fund "endowment or the arts" or perhaps "planned parenthood"? :smile:

Really??

I believe my position is obvious.
If we give back unused military funding the Congress will spend it on such nonsense and then cut next year's military budget so their pet project is again funded.

Budgets are based on anticipated need. Not political speculations. With good husbandry any spending can be responsibly held below forecasted expectations. This true in just about any organization, but Congress.
 
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Bamby

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Really??

I believe my position is obvious.
If we give back unused military funding the Congress will spend it on such nonsense and then cut next year's military budget so their pet project is again funded.
Budgets are based on anticipated need. Not political speculations. With good husbandry any spending can be responsibly held below forecasted expectations. This true in just about any organization, but Congress.
If we want to look at it that way what damn sure should be done with it fund the VA or even the wounded warriors. To be truthful it really pisses me off every time they're pleading on TV or telemarketing reminding me that wounded veterans needs aren't properly being taken care of and that would be a far better way to waste away their excess budget. But alas they'd likely be out of a huge pile of kickbacks should they pursue it.
 

Doc

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With Business they don't just keep throwing more money to those who spend the most. Why in the hell does of government work like described above. Not just the military but all of government.
Each area has a mission. If they complete their mission and save money managers and employees should be rewarded for a good job. Quality can be had at a decent price but the people procuring 'stuff' have no incentive to try to save money. Vendors, contractors and the general public know this. But still, it never changes. Our tax dollars are wasted in oh so many ways. :soapbox: :beatdeadhorse5:
 
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