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Fox sees the light

mak2

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I have just been wondering the last couple of days about this. Why is it, when the birther thing seems to be reaching new all time highs, Fox suddenly sees the light? I mean state legislatures are trying to pass laws about birth certificates being required to run in the state. Drudge leads with it, Trump runs on it.

Why Fox? what is going on?
 

Big Dog

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Looks like you need to change your lure, this one doesn't seem to be getting any bites .............. :whistling:
 

mak2

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That was really dumb. If I am on your ignore list, ignore me and shut the hell up. Thank you.
 

mak2

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OH sorry. I was watching Fox at the Y yesterday. They stated during Sheps show, under not uncertain terms, The POTUS has a legitmate verified HI certificate and Fox could state, under not uncertain term he was born in the US. I aint kidding. It seemed odd to me but I could not find anything about it on their site.

They stated it as a no uncertain terms thing. I just wondered why they seemed to be going against the grain.
 

jpr62902

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OH sorry. I was watching Fox at the Y yesterday. They stated during Sheps show, under not uncertain terms, The POTUS has a legitmate verified HI certificate and Fox could state, under not uncertain term he was born in the US. I aint kidding. It seemed odd to me but I could not find anything about it on their site.

They stated it as a no uncertain terms thing. I just wondered why they seemed to be going against the grain.

Actually, its a pretty mainstream view. CNN just posted a story on it yesterday: http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/04/25/birthers.obama.hawaii/index.html?hpt=C1
 

mak2

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I dont think even I would say he was "definately" born in the US. Hell I cant say I was definately born in the US. Pretty durn sure, but....
 

jpr62902

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The POTUS has supplied evidence sufficient to establish by a preponderance (and then some) that he was born in Hawaii. I've seen no evidence sufficient to rebut that conclusion.
 

jimbo

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It the birth certificate argument is true, all he has to do is toss it, along with his other disputed documents on the table and let the chips fall where they may. Otherwise, this is going to be a major issue in 12. Trump brought up because the head socialist, who promised a free and open presidency, is stonewalling the issue. Boils down to: If you aint got something to hide, don't spend a lot of time hiding it.
 

jimbo

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That is the point. he has, you still dont believe. it has become pointless.
Do you have any place where I can find these documents? I am not a birther, I believe that someone was born in Hawaii on the date cited as Barak Obama. I just wonder why if all is as represented, why has so much time and money gone into hiding the records. Frankly, Barry, Barak, or whoever, telling me to trust him, is not going to cut it.

This is going to become a major issue in 12. If you don't believe that issues such as these matter in an election, ask yourself just why did he become president.
 

Cowboy

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It the birth certificate argument is true, all he has to do is toss it, along with his other disputed documents on the table and let the chips fall where they may. Otherwise, this is going to be a major issue in 12. Trump brought up because the head socialist, who promised a free and open presidency, is stonewalling the issue. Boils down to: If you aint got something to hide, don't spend a lot of time hiding it.
Thats the whole problem right there IMHO . He promised transperancy and has spent millions keeping parts of his own life a secret .

Sure maybe others have in the past as well but they didn't run or get elected on the fact that they were not going to hide things from the public . He got voted in because he promised change , I didn't vote in the last presidential election but I sure as hell was willing to give him a chance for the first year .

He basiclly lied to everyone that DID vote for him and I'm pissed because when I first joined here I halfassed backed him up . It was somewhere around the healthcare crap they forced through when I finally opened my friggen eyes to see what he and his cohorts are all about . Now I'm really pissed .

Perty piss poor attitude for the first black president of the USA to take if you ask me . It has been in his powers to put this crap to rest from the gitgo but he chose to be evasive about it because he is an arrogant asshole, not to mention a friggen liar that has back peddled on everything he promised . I never thought I would see the day I would have these feelings about the POTUS, let alone say it . :hammer:
 

jpr62902

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Jimbo, instead of everything being rehashed, have you tried a forum search? I suspect "birther" would be a good search term.
 

jimbo

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Jimbo, instead of everything being rehashed, have you tried a forum search? I suspect "birther" would be a good search term.
I don't disagree. What I am asking at this point is where I can find this new evidence that indicates that there is indeed a birth certificate, not a CLB. Not the same thing. I have both for me, and they are different. Once again, if you have a site, or cite, that I can pursue, I will follow it.

Maybe these could be put on CSpan, where Barry, Barak, or whoever, promised he would be freee and open.
 

jpr62902

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I don't disagree. What I am asking at this point is where I can find this new evidence that indicates that there is indeed a birth certificate, not a CLB. Not the same thing. I have both for me, and they are different. Once again, if you have a site, or cite, that I can pursue, I will follow it.

Maybe these could be put on CSpan, where Barry, Barak, or whoever, promised he would be freee and open.

Why are you requiring more from the POTUS than is required of you to establish your place of birth?
 

Av8r3400

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Have you ever tried to get a passport?

CLB is not accepted. I tried. I had to get a certified copy of my BIRTH CERTIFICATE.

CLB and BC are NOT the same thing.
 

mak2

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So I guess that was CNN I was watching at the Y?

It did seem fair and balanced. I should have known.
 

SShepherd

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lol, I apparently have 2 passports, with 2 different countries with the same number
one in the US, one in the UK. The customs agent was not amused with my James Bond comment.:ermm::unsure:
 

jpr62902

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lol, I apparently have 2 passports, with 2 different countries with the same number
one in the US, one in the UK. The customs agent was not amused with my James Bond comment.:ermm::unsure:

Details, dude. We want details!
 

grizzer

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CNN & Shep Smith FOX are both liberals

I figger Obama is having trouble organizing the deep pockets bundlers for campaign contributions.

They are standing back with hands in pockets if the birther issuue is not cleared Obama is a non starter...

Hawaii has again stopped issuing the long form BC, first time was 2009 & the natives threw a fit as the COLB did not positively identify them for special native benefits.

Oklahoma will be voting on their birther bill as early as tomorrow...

Here is a post&mail piece to CNN: http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/04/26/open-letter-to-anderson-cooper-of-cnn/
 

rback33

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'nuff said..

If one was going to quote here, you would have thought that you would have picked Jim's since he was the one that posted the CNN link....

I really can't believe people STILL want to argue about this. Birthers make me laugh. And I understand where Mak might be confused by Fox statement since they certainly lean toward the birthers' side...
 

pirate_girl

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Oh well, The White House released the birth certificate.
Trump took the credit.
All's well that ends well.
 
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