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Transmission dead in the water

pirate_girl

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Hope you're not having to gas that beast for long, or you'll really have spent some dough all said and done.
 

Doc

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If I have to take a second day off to finish the job (estimated 10 hour job, but I have some tricks up my sleeve) that will be another $92 coming out to a total of $404.

If your tricks work out like mine be careful ...they'll cost you an extra day or two to get the job done. :eek: So start the job on a Thursday or Friday so you have the weekend cushion "just in case". :yum:

heck yeah, you gotta give it the old college try. She is well worth it and overall I'm thinking this is your best option of all. Any 2000 or 3000 dollar car will come with unforeseen problems that will cost you way more in the long run.
 

muleman

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A word to the wise: All parts have an important place in that tranny. ANYTHING left over or not properly tightened is not acceptable. Take some pics as you tear into it and refer to them as you put it back together. Good luck AAMCO man!:clap::clap:
 

Rusty Shackleford

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Well I got it all back together and have this leftover part. Do you think I really need it?

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muleman

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Well at least it has a good plow on it. In case the tranny repair takes a while.:whistling:
 

Rusty Shackleford

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:yum: that it does, 7 footer. That's the workhorse that plows our lot in the wintertime. She pretty big. Ext cab long bed. Built Ford tough!
 

BRGTold

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I wish you luck..Rusty..Hope it works out..It would take me acouple days getting the tools and jacks togeather..pulling the trans and replaceing with a rebuildt one seems it would take along day...much less tearing into one..:brows:
 

Rusty Shackleford

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Neat thing about this fix is, the trans doesn't have to come out, and the tools you will need are basic. The most time-consuming portion of the job is removing all the shit in the way, and then putting it all back in!!!
 

BRGTold

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Things must have changed alot..since the 70s-80s..only thing you could change back then..w-out pulling the trans..was the modulater...
 

Rusty Shackleford

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Well on most cars I would assume that you need to remove the trans, but this one I can get to by taking out the wheel/fender liner, battery, airbox, and just unlpugging a wireing harnes or two, and pushing that out of my way, and taking off a couple hoses and pushing them out of my way, too. Tools I need to do the job? Metric wrench/socket set.
 

AAUTOFAB1

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Well i hope you have a lift to use,all that up and down and under the car would send my back into shock, good luck and take pictures as you go .:weneedpic
 

Rusty Shackleford

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I do have a lift :D that's one of my time saving sleeve tricks LOL
I will take pics. Gonna ahve to for reference, too.
 

Rusty Shackleford

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OK getting ready to order parts here shortly. Next Friday will be the day I tear into it. Fingers crossed it's not catastrophic.
 

Rusty Shackleford

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Oh I know that. But when you make a plan, (the RIGHT way,) you include several hours of unforseen circumstances within the carrying out of said laid plan :yum:
 

fogtender

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Around $2400 for a rebuild at a good trans shop down the road from home. $500 for the repair kit if I attempt it myself. So far I've succeeded on repairing this car myself, big jobs and little, but I've never done trans work before. Smart guy would not try this myself. Cheap, stubborn guy would. I dunno, got another couple shops to call first.


Well having done that stuff for a living, really wish you the best. Having all the right tools is important, but knowing exactly what your doing is even more so!

You may find cutting corners isn't all that it's pumped out to be!

Still miracles happen! Take photos of every step of the way, that is the positive thing about digital photography!

If a part fails, there may be other "unknown" parts that failed first that you don't know about!

Best of luck!
 

Rusty Shackleford

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can i take off my clothes during your project:unsure:

Absolutley not :hammer: I need not be blinded during this particular venture.

Well having done that stuff for a living, really wish you the best. Having all the right tools is important, but knowing exactly what your doing is even more so!

You may find cutting corners isn't all that it's pumped out to be!

Still miracles happen! Take photos of every step of the way, that is the positive thing about digital photography!

If a part fails, there may be other "unknown" parts that failed first that you don't know about!

Best of luck!

Tools needed? Check.
Knowledge? Semi-check :yum:
Photo-taking device? Check.

I will also be dropping the pan first to check for metal content. If the filter/pan is littered with metal shavings, then the project stops there, as it is going to need more than the pump. In which case, I will re-open my search for a used transmission to swap in.
 

fogtender

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Absolutley not :hammer: I need not be blinded during this particular venture.



Tools needed? Check.
Knowledge? Semi-check :yum:
Photo-taking device? Check.

I will also be dropping the pan first to check for metal content. If the filter/pan is littered with metal shavings, then the project stops there, as it is going to need more than the pump. In which case, I will re-open my search for a used transmission to swap in.

Well sounds good to a point... But before you buy parts, the oil pan check would be a good start!

What makes you think the pump is the cause of the transmission failure? "Normally" the pumps are pretty bullet proof, could be something as simple as the linkage slipped and it says in neutral.

Not having seen it and going by your discription, it could be just a plugged pan filter to a broken CVJ where you put it in gear and it just spins inside the wheel and goes nowhere (seen that a lot).

Good luck and post some pictures!
 

Rusty Shackleford

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Had Dad check it out. (GM Tranny specialist.) Fluid level is the same in drive as it is with the car off and in park. Erego pump is not engaging. I'm figuring the shaft stripped, so I'm going to rpelace it all. If I don't need the parts, I can send them back for a full refund, no problem. These tend to fail in this transmission, causing the downfall of most of them. These are most certainly not bulletproof :yum:
 

Snowtrac Nome

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Rusty if the pump went out you will have had metal throught the whole transmission and it will need a rebuild pumps are normaly damaged by instalation problems as the pump is driven off 2 flats on the torque converter but they can self destruct my best guess is ou shelled out a clutch pack ot band and your filter is plugged next when you change the transmission don't forget to flush out the tranny cooler it will be filled with stuff you don't want in your new transmission
 

fogtender

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Had Dad check it out. (GM Tranny specialist.) Fluid level is the same in drive as it is with the car off and in park. Erego pump is not engaging. I'm figuring the shaft stripped, so I'm going to rpelace it all. If I don't need the parts, I can send them back for a full refund, no problem. These tend to fail in this transmission, causing the downfall of most of them. These are most certainly not bulletproof :yum:


Well if the pump failed, your going to have metal all thoughout the transmission and will need to be removed and cleaned.

You can also have seals blown that will cause no fluid level change as well. At this point, I thinks you'd be farther ahead in just planning the transmission pull and you'll be miles ahead in getting it fixed! If what your doing doesn't work, you are going to be doing that as an extra event for reassembly!
 
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