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Castings are from Bench MFG CO Woodstock Vermont. Bench was in the Meadow Glen Mall Medford MA. The removed left outside to rot .

Repurposed
 

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Back to business. Wear I expected when I bought and time to address.

As well maintained as this cat is and all the new track parts and sprockets that had to have gone on with the wear existing, I am surprised that they let this slide or did not address?

Can you find the poor solution to the obvious problem in the pics?
 

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Team Green will take that 5th place ribbon at America’s oldest fair tonight Topsfield Massachusetts tractor pull representing Essex County.

Everybody gets a trophy phenomenon has spread to farmers! Green and orange like watching paint dry.
 

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Any tips for this hub removal?

Right now using lubricant, puller, heat, tap, and time
 

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I just went through this on one of mine what a pain! You're doing everything right except you probably need more puller pressure and what I had to do is hit the spindle extremely hard to get it to pop off kind of like when you shock a automobile tie rod. Use lots of anti seize on reassembly. What do you plan on doing to fix the problem with the sprocket rubbing?
 

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Is the steel track princess giving advice on rubber tracks?��
 

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I even used a porta power at one point. Didn't budge. Shocking it with a large Hammer with all the puller on is what worked and it shot off probably 10 ft. Good luck.
 

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The rubbing is do to the carrier wear. The journal welded to the axle housing eats into the carrier housing. The inside wears much faster than the outside so as the carrier top tips inward the wheels start to tip outward. This makes the sprockets start to hit the carrier .

Not sure where the most wear is but I believe it is the carrier housing. Hobbiest fix is to use bearing taps to take up the slack. Correct fix is a Tucker retro kit consisting of new weld on journals and a uhmw sleeve. Kit is over 2000$.

Waiting to see what I find in there. Here are some pics of the wear on the inside of carrier . Though to see but bunch of slop to take up.
 

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Yeah I have some of the same wear but maybe not quite as bad. I thought about extending the circular pieces that ride in side the carrier. That way they would be writing on Virgin material. I know it would not be a permanent fix but would at least straighten up the carriers for some time.
 

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Decompressed in the hops/pumpkin patch for the afternoon with family.

Took a new approach using “bigger tools”. Other than being down one harbor freight puller hub off .

Looking at the tukcer kit looks like the journals move in so that rides in virgin metal also.

Do it right once resounds in my head....
 

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Yup one shot one kill on that hub. New puller hopefully get to it this afternoon.

Little Tucker defense class at the patch yesterday also. Moms were there!
 

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This side had to have been off and was anti seized. Started with the big tool popped right off.

Wish it had my hours back on the other side .
 

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Carriers off. Now I understand what I am working with. First glance the grease fittings are 180 degree off from where the load is. The carrier has a proud grease groove and the journals have a recessed. On the carrier that proud surface is worn off bottom 1/3 and toward the front. Makes sense driving forward and machine load. Fittings appear to fit in that wear location on bottom not sure why that wouldn’t be the spot.

Bearings and seals/races are good shape but going to replace. Diff fluid might have been over filled and slightly milky. Will be adding magnetic drain plug on the diff.
 

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This is the type of wear we are working with .

You can see the proud grooves on the top.
 

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So plan is:

1. Hope some of these journals exist . At 1 or two more while adding bearing material to the worn area.
2. Have them made and add 1 or two more with bearing material worn area.
3. Just add bearing material and run it.

We shall see.
 

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The piece in the pic is the outer carrier and axle bearing carrier. Due to the low wear it is a good representation of what he original journal would have been.

It is reversed on the picture .
 

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Any idea what this repair modification was for? Brace on stop and flat stock on bottom.

I was told a story of this cat losing a rear track and driving 13 miles down the mountain before operator noticed.

Can’t see how this fixed it unless some was in low or no snow condition and the track bent the stop when it came off and rocks destroyed the bottom?

Real poor stick welds. Doesn’t make sense.
 

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Here are what my factory stops looked like.

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Cut out the bent section and inserted thick wall square tube but don’t think it would be enough.

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Got few things removed on the cat and a little final bench mock up.

Don’t think rubber hose is a good bushing material. Springs need to be bushed and tuned up a little.

Table bolt holes need new bushings so going to take the whole thing to the machine shop tighten it all up like new.
 

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Great timing today. Dropped the springs off at my fleet shop to catch the next ride to the spring shop. One of my trucks happened to be sitting there with a broken shackle and they were headed up to the spring shop today.

Two for one Friday!
 

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Here is the solution I am counting on.

Bearing tape courtesy of Tucker and GetSno!
 

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Got my guys doing some dirty work finally .
 

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