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Old 02-14-2019, 01:25 PM
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I had my first exposure to serious big money college sports recruiting yesterday.

The university visited is not really relevant to the story.

BUT DAMN and WOWZA was it eye opening

You all know I have a fencer named Dasha who is an elite athlete. Took her for an official recruitment meeting with the #2 ranked women's fencing team in the US yesterday, spent 4 hours with the coaches. Private meetings. Team session, behind the scenes tour, etc.

The VARSITY athletic area is locked away from mere mortals, regular students and prying eyes. And damn was it amazing. As we were ushered through by the head fencing coach we got to see all general areas and fencing areas, but also poked our heads inside some of the other sports areas.
  • Private lounge area for relaxation for EACH varsity team
  • Dedicated scholastic advisor for EACH varsity team, sometimes multiple advisors if the team is large enough. 30 people on the varsity women's fencing team so there were 3 advisors
  • Preferential class schedules
  • Relaxed entrance standards (yes the rumors are true!)
  • Special cafeteria with free food
  • Snack and drink bars stocked with freebies
  • Free gear
  • Private workout areas, pools, weight rooms, etc
  • Customized workouts that are performance or injury recovery based and computer tracked by all sorts of metrics
  • Private athletic lounge area of all athletes (in addition to the private team lounges)
  • Private study area for all athletes
  • Special tutors dedicated to athletics
  • and the list goes on and on and on...

And the facilities are simply over-the top in terms of quality and quantity. Touch screen walls for video review. The newest of the new equipment. Luxury seating and carpeting in lounge areas. Etc Etc Etc

And everything is locked all the time so only special athletic pass cards get you into these "behind the locked door" areas of the buildings. It was a whole new world of athletic pampering and sports luxury. I can't imagine a pro team having more.

I was honestly afraid to photograph behind the closed doors
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It's crazy big business. Everyone's making money except the student athletes.

Crazy thought . . . imagine if that money just went to lowering tuition rates. I know that's just not gonna happen.
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It's crazy big business. Everyone's making money except the student athletes.

Crazy thought . . . imagine if that money just went to lowering tuition rates. I know that's just not gonna happen.
Reality thought just imagine how much cheaper tuition costs would be if all the students weren't being forced to subsidize the sports program.
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Reality thought just imagine how much cheaper tuition costs would be if all the students weren't being forced to subsidize the sports program.
As a parent of a kid that's currently at Penn State, I know the tuition pain all to well.
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Reality thought just imagine how much cheaper tuition costs would be if all the students weren't being forced to subsidize the sports program.

All to true at many schools. Good point.
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Reality thought just imagine how much cheaper tuition costs would be if all the students weren't being forced to subsidize the sports program.
I was actually told the building was DONATED to the school. And this building must have been at least $100 Million Dollars.

I know that most big name Football and Basketball teams actually are a revenue source for universities. Sports like swimming, soccer, fencing, baseball, field hockey, etc are money pits on the school sports programs.

Honestly I believe that, at least at major universities, the athletic programs are not supported out-of-proportion by tuition payments. Inter-mural and club activities, which can be expensive, are covered by tuition. As are the club sports fields, practice gyms, etc. Now when it comes to smaller schools with lesser teams, Div 2 or Div 3 schools, etc, I have no clue how much athletics eats up from tuition. I'd suspect it would be school dependent. The college I went to is a Div 3 school, but also had the 2nd highest endowment (per capita) of any college in the nation (at least it did in the late 70's) and a tremendous level of donation support from Alums so I'm not sure that athletics were a drain on my particular tuition, but again, that is probably very dependent upon the school.
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...idies/2142443/

A bit dated but it shows as to where the sports program gets progressively more expensive.
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