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Free cell phones for everybody!!

300 H and H

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This will raise your blood preasure so WARNING if you are paying for your own cell phone.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjAjAvxDkfk&feature=share"]WBFF: Free Phone Frenzy - abuse of the federal Lifeline program - YouTube[/ame]

This lady has 30 working phones at our expence....

Regards, Kirk
 

EastTexFrank

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Yea, this has been going on for a while. Me, I use a $15 TracPhone and I don't see why I should be paying for a free phone and free minutes for ANYBODY. :sad:
 

muleman

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Those are not cheap phones either. They need to drop them all and go back to basic land line for those who truly need it. It is just one more example of welfare fraud that is rampant in this country. Probably small potatoes compared to the IRS refund scams that pay folks for nieces and nephews that are living in Mexico etc. As long as the government is stupid enough to hand out free stuff greedy folks are going to take it.:hammer:
 

muleman

Gone But Not Forgotten
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You mean that I got gypped out of $3. :yum:

I didn't think that Walmart was into ripping off customers!!! :biggrin:
Cowboy has connections.:yum: My Verizon one costs me $100 a year for more hours than I ever use. I still have 24 hours on it and it renews in September. They keep telling me that I have a $130 credit so this year should be free. And I can roll over the minutes.:clap:
 

Kane

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Another one of Obama's cronies strikes it rich(er)


Carlos Slim, world’s richest man, gets richer supplying ‘Obamaphones’ to poor


A Mexican telecom mogul who holds the title of world's richest man, and one of President Obama's top donors are both getting even richer from the U.S. government program that supplies so-called "Obamaphones" to the poor.

Carlos Slim, who has an estimated net worth of $70 billion, owns a controlling stake in TracFone, which makes $10 per phone for each device it provides to poor Americans. The company, whose president and CEO is Frederick "F.J." Pollak, also makes money from extra minutes and data plans it sells to subscribers who get phones and service through the government's Lifeline program. The program, which began in the mid-1980s, has exploded in the past four years after being expanded from supplying landlines to the poor to providing cellular phones.

The phones came into the national spotlight after a viral video surfaced on YouTube in which a Cleveland, Ohio, woman praised the president, saying he needed to be re-elected because he gives out free phones.
"Everybody in Cleveland, every minority, got an Obama phone. Keep Obama as president. He gave us a phone. He gonna do more," the woman said in the video.

Slim's Movil America owns TracFone and recently snapped up service provider Simple Mobile for $100 million. TracFones and Simple Mobile service are huge players in the Lifeline program through the company's "SafeLink Wireless" brand. TracFone had 3.8 million subscribers through the federal program as of late 2011.

Pollak has donated at least $156,500 to Democratic candidates and committees this cycle, including at least $50,000 to the Obama campaign. His wife, Abigail, is a campaign bundler for Obama and has raised more than $632,000 for the president this cycle, and more than $1.5 million since 2007. She has personally contributed more than $200,000 to Democratic candidates and committees since 2008.

The Pollaks hosted Obama at their Miami Beach home in June for a $40,000-per-plate fundraising dinner, and hosted a similar event with Michelle Obama in July 2008. The couple personally donated a combined $66,200 to Obama's re-election effort that year.

U.S. Rep. Tim Griffin, (R-Ark.), who has been one of the biggest critics of the Lifeline program's explosive growth, said he can't blame Slim for doing lucrative business with the federal government.

"I'm not against a company making a profit," Griffin said. "If they are making money off the program, the blame goes to the federal government for creating the program."

Griffin recently introduced a bill on Capitol Hill to end the Lifeline program, which cost $1.6 billion in 2011, up from $772 million in 2008. While not technically a tax, the program is funded by mandatory fees tacked on to consumers' phone bills, then disbursed through the Federal Communications Commission and states.

"This program is rife with waste and abuse," Griffin said. "It's set up in a way where people can receive multiple phones for free."

Griffin said he has seen cases in which single individuals obtained dozens of the phones, and said under the lax requirements, more than 80 million Americans are eligible.

According to the FCC, "Lifeline is a government benefit program supported by the Universal Service Fund that provides a discount on phone service for qualifying low-income consumers. Lifeline helps ensure that eligible consumers have the opportunities and security that phone service brings, including being able to connect to jobs, family, and emergency services."
The FCC announced in July that new reforms saved $43 million in savings by eliminating duplicate subscriptions and outdated subsidies and claims that the agency is on track to recover $200 million for the year.

But Griffin said it's time to end a subsidy that gives the poor a luxury item and makes the world's wealthiest man richer.

"I simply do not think that the taxpayers should be footing the bill for someone's cell service and social interaction," Griffin said. "If that's the case, what should the government pay for and not pay for? Let's just start paying for everyone's gas."


Read more: http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/197921...r-supplying-obamaphones-to-poor#ixzz298The5GU
 

squerly

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Those are not cheap phones either. As long as the government is stupid enough to hand out free stuff greedy folks are going to take it.:hammer:
They don't give a flying f**k. Anything for a vote is their motto.

The government isn't stupid (in this case anyhow), they know that the people getting the phones will vote democratic. Just another way to buy a vote.

If the government really wanted to help people (all around) then they would create a buy-back program and pay people like me a $100.00 to buy back my phone. I in turn would take the $100.00, put a bit more with it, and buy an upgrade. Then my used (but perfectly good) phone could be given to the needy folks. This process could repeat itself over and over. This is what is called a win-win, and anyone in the business world understands win-win.

But the government isn't interested in things that make sense for everyone, they are only interested in creating giveaway programs that buy votes and keep them in office.
 

Melensdad

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Those are not cheap phones either. They need to drop them all and go back to basic land line for those who truly need it. It is just one more example of welfare fraud that is rampant in this country. . .

That part I bolded is the truth.

IF we need any phone, then it should be a landline.
 

luvs

'lil yinzer~
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i have a landline fer medical purposes, & a verizon cell my family gets on a plan. when in a place where i've seen 2 payphones in 5-ish yrs., (1 has not got a receiver- think it's décor- it's @ a bar w/ quirky stuff pasted over their place) & i'm somewhere by myself @ night, my current phone is great. i'll impolitely decline that phone in the o.p. .

got a tracfone years ago, & that took most of the minutes i bought to activate. that was the end of that. they may well have changed by now, tho.
 

Snowtrac Nome

member formerly known as dds
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around here the the kids all have cell phones and cable tv and i'm having a hard time paying for what I have. this crap is stupid trying to make the lazy live on the same level as those of us that work.
 

luvs

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i see that, too. my nephew owned a cell in 5th grade. he got that taken away, tho, by his Parents. my 1 friend's daughter got 1 of those lifeline phones several years ago, & is only 11 now. her Mom must have gotten that fer herself. she- her daughter- is fully healthy. her Mom says she blocked #'s, tho.
both these kiddos also have laptops. i could see if they were fer school. they're fer social media & games, tho.
i'm a fan of that verizon plan we're on- concept is similar to buying in bulk. so much cheaper than each of us buying an individual plan. & we take turns trading old models fer new. i returned my new fer my old 1.
 

Kane

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It seems that every man, woman and child on the planet has a cell phone ... all paying about $100 a month. Just imagine the revenue the service providers rake in every year.

It boggles the mind. Yet it has become the 'new normal'.
 

dave_dj1

Member
I do not have a cell provider, I have a trac-phone that I paid 50 bucks for, it comes with triple minutes for life. I bought the 99 dollar card that insures un interupted service for 1 year and comes with 400 minutes. So, for 150 bucks I have semi-smart phone (LG840), a years service and 1200 minutes. I'm now down to 750 minutes and I'm much more frivolous with the time than I was when I first got it. My service time runs out May of next year. I actually had over a year of service.
Maybe the feds should look into my plan!
I seem to have great service everywhere I go too.
This government waste just makes me want to puke!
 
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