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Engineless Tucker in CO.

PJL

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https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjbub2WmergAhUP854KHeE5A1cQFjABegQICBAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.energy.gov%2Fsites%2Fprod%2Ffiles%2F2015%2F07%2Ff24%2FDepartment_of_Energy_FY13_Service_Contract_Inventory.xlsx&usg=AOvVaw3rJzkG_92VptIz2TG8jgJI


Don't know. The serial number is noted on the listing. Maybe the Princess can decode it. I found the above linked spreadsheet and if I'm reading it correctly they spent over $21,000 on new tracks in 2013. Click on standard format and scroll to line 202.
 

Pontoon Princess

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Don't know. The serial number is noted on the listing. Maybe the Princess can decode it. I found the above linked spreadsheet and if I'm reading it correctly they spent over $21,000 on new tracks in 2013. Click on standard format and scroll to line 202.

sadly, I do not speak rubber track, call Clyde at the factory, he is the MAN...


sure does look like a good solid machine...
 
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Blackfoot Tucker

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What engine would have been in this? A Chrysler Industrial Engine?

The standard power train would have been a Chrysler 318 Industrial Engine and a New Process 435 four-speed, or a New Process 540 five-speed manual transmission.

Note I said "Industrial". I believe Tucker bought the engines and transmissions as a package from Chrysler. The Industrial engine has some internal differences from the automotive counterpart, and those differences continue through the clutch, bellhousing and the way the engine and transmission mount to the Tucker. The factory installed the hydraulic pump on the right side of the engine with a Tucker made bracket system. The water pump inlet is on the left side on the 318 Industrial and on the right side on automotive engines starting in 1971 (IIRC).

The engine mounts to the Tucker frame with a casting that bolts to the front of the engine and has a single stud that attaches to the Tucker frame. The location is offset to the left of center. (I think this is due to the large diameter of the hydraulic pump pulley.)

Whereas typically automotive transmissions use a bracket in the rear of the transmission that bolts to a frame crossmember, the system employed in the Chrysler Industrial package is different. The bellhousing is a steel casting and has "ears" cast on each side. These ears have a hole in them and that is for a special bolt that mounts to brackets welded to the Tucker frame.

A couple other differences that come to mind are the parking brake system is essentially a drum that attaches to the transmission output shaft yoke and there is a linkage mechanism and cable that connects to the parking brake lever next to the driver's seat.

The clutch (IIRC) is 13" in diameter and is actuated by a slave cylinder on the right side of the transmission.

Tucker modified the stock oil pan by adding a few inches to the rear sump, This would also require modifying the oil pump pickup tube and possibly the pickup tube's mounting. They also added another oil drain plug to the oil pan welded off center to the right.

Some pics will help:

This is a photo of the engine mounting location. You can see the hole I mentioned is offset, and the hydraulic pump and pulley are to the left. I do not know if the pulley system on the automotive engines is the same as on the industrial engines. I do know that the hydraulic pump and the alternator used dual groove pulleys, and my suspicion is automotive alternators just use a single groove pulley.

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This is a photo of the clutch slave cylinder setup. Note the throw-out fork has a hole for the adjustable linkage rod. Also, below the rubber boot are the ears I mentioned.

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Here's a photo of a NP 540 transmission with the parking brake drum assembly on a machine we were making a new floor for. Note there is also a short driveshaft to connect to the transfer case. If you look closely you can see the parking brake cable running from the actuating lever around the front of the transmission and back to the linkage for the parking brake drum.

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Lastly, the modified oil pan.

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still wondering what to do with a ( 78? ) 440 cui with a push button transmission - 57,000 miles on it and purrs like a kitten
 

Snowtrac Nome

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Build a hot rod for sunny sunday drives you cant afford to feed that thing in a snow cat. I once had a big block in a 4x4 pickup it had a 50 gallon fuel capacity and it needed it, you could pass anything except a gas station.
 
Build a hot rod for sunny sunday drives you cant afford to feed that thing in a snow cat. I once had a big block in a 4x4 pickup it had a 50 gallon fuel capacity and it needed it, you could pass anything except a gas station.

yeah, it sure wouldn't be cheap to run - might be fun though - lol
 

Z1TURBOCAT

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Anyone ever done a 5.9 Cummins conversion? Wonder what happened to the original motor and trans?
 

Nikson

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So, common... who's crazy enough to buy it?! or do you all agree may be its time this machine comes up to Oregon and sees some Cascade powder after I throw some crazy engine into it?!

Suggestions?!
 

Nikson

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Hilux diesel


I like the Nissan 4.2TD inline 6 that my buddy got in his Nissan Safari he brought from Japan... Really torquie... and got plenty of resource, some guys have tuned them up to 700HP/1000torque, but I think that will wear it tooooo fast...

In any case, that would be an interesting one...


Anyone has info on its "width" - tow legal, or will it be oversize?

And weight on the unit with factory motor...

:)
 
it wouldn't be over width and likely light enough to tow with a pickup - my 1344 weighs in the neighborhood of 7000 LBS , but it has the motor still in it
 

luvthemvws

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The guy who stole the "General Lee" Tucker last year used a little 'ol Tacoma to tow it through the mountains. And that Tucker was complete. Maybe if you post his bail he could bring this one to you...
 

Nikson

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So, I've bid on it, incase anyone wondered... if someone here jumped on it first, I dont care to compete more than unfairly.
 

Blackfoot Tucker

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So, I've bid on it, incase anyone wondered... if someone here jumped on it first, I dont care to compete more than unfairly.

I haven't bid yet, but as I indicated in post #22 in this thread, that was a possibility. Generally speaking, my bidding practice is to wait until toward the end of an auction and see where the current bid is. If it's below my max bid and I still want the item, I'll put one in.

I was not registered with this auction site, and started the registration process on Monday. For me it was a PITA and problematic. I'll explain as some people may find the information helpful.

The registration essentially consists of verifying you're a real person, or business and requires a fair amount of personal information, including your social security number. They then cross check that information with Experian, one of the three main credit bureaus. I think that's where my problems arose as I believe Experian didn't give me their blessing. The auction site says you can only apply once, so if you're rejected the next step is to contact them by email. I immediately sent an email asking what other documentation would suffice to prove who I am and got pretty much a form reply back a day later. I sent the requested documentation in within an hour, and a day later I had heard nothing. I reached out by phone and got absolutely nowhere. Several hours later my registration application was approved. Leave it to the Federal Government to make a simple process more difficult...

Here's what probably caused the problem with Experian: It was in 2015 that someone had obtained some of my personal information from a hacked company and used that information to apply for credit in "my" name. They were unsuccessful with both a Chase/Amazon co-branded credit card and with a Discover Card. However, they did obtain a payday loan for almost $2,000 from a company I had never even heard of, located several states away in California. Of course the lender hired a collection agency to get repaid and they called me. The first call was very accusatory and the representative was quite rude. I suggested they write me a letter. The next day I got a call from someone who was actually polite, and I spoke with them.

After the Chase and Discover Card fraudulent applications I had filed a police report with the county sheriff's office, and I so informed the collection agency what had happened, as well as the existence of the police report. That ended their attempts to get payment from me. I sought general advice on what to do and it was suggested to put a "credit freeze" on file with the three credit bureaus, Equifax, Experian, and TransUnion, which I did.

I had been a banking customer of Washington Mutual since 2001 and then JP Morgan Chase after they took over Washington Mutual in 2008 or so. I thought I was an excellent customer, as I had never written a bad check and my balance was always well above the minimum. Well...all their talk about "valuing you as a customer" is pure Bull Snort. I received a suspicious looking letter from Chase saying they were closing all my accounts in three weeks. When I called to inquire, I was told it was true and it was coming from the fraud department. I met with the local branch manager in person and he called internally and got the same information. Yes, I was the victim of fraud, not the perpetrator, but they had no loyalty whatsoever. (You might file that away if you're considering banking with Chase.)
 
I know, or know of several people that had their identity stolen - everyone of them had to do most of the detective work to find the person that stole their identity - even when it was proven in court that the identity was stolen, it took years for them to restore their credit rating - once I retired I started paying as I go, got rid of my credit cards except one that takes money directly from my account and a debit card - if I can't afford to buy something, I wait to buy it until I can afford it and pay cash - funny how much more you can afford when you're not paying any interest :yum:
 

Blackfoot Tucker

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I know, or know of several people that had their identity stolen - everyone of them had to do most of the detective work to find the person that stole their identity - even when it was proven in court that the identity was stolen, it took years for them to restore their credit rating - once I retired I started paying as I go, got rid of my credit cards except one that takes money directly from my account and a debit card - if I can't afford to buy something, I wait to buy it until I can afford it and pay cash - funny how much more you can afford when you're not paying any interest :yum:

Several years ago I went to a seminar with an FBI agent as the guest speaker. The seminar was about protecting your identity and the audience was given suggestions on what to do, and the agent also told us of some identity theft cases and the judicial outcomes.

In virtually every case the willful fraud and dishonesty had caused the victims significant hardship (as you pointed out) and yet the courts gave the offenders barely a wrist slap, despite in some cases multiple offenses. The cases discussed showed how screwed up our so-called "judicial system" is.
 

PJL

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Several years ago I went to a seminar with an FBI agent as the guest speaker. The seminar was about protecting your identity and the audience was given suggestions on what to do, and the agent also told us of some identity theft cases and the judicial outcomes.

In virtually every case the willful fraud and dishonesty had caused the victims significant hardship (as you pointed out) and yet the courts gave the offenders barely a wrist slap, despite in some cases multiple offenses. The cases discussed showed how screwed up our so-called "judicial system" is.




Yeah it's a friggen joke. They think well it's just a property crime and no one was hurt so the courts are very lenient. Financial pain is no joke.


$10k on the Tucker now. With no engine... Or trans...
 

redsqwrl

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Is it worth that ?? Just curious? It doesn’t have a motor is it a speacial or limited build type

worth you ask?

It depends.

supply there is no real supply chain for over the snow transportation to my knowledge there is nothing that an be purchased new that is not hydrostatic or orange. estimated price 150K and up.



Demand is high currently. WE have roofs caving in all around the state of WIsconsin. (again) many people won't pay to have snow removed, and can't do it themselves so their second homes sit and the owner hopes they don't give way to the weight of the snow. I shacks out on lakes, maple syrup operations, logging, utiity work ect.

Given the above;

Dropping 10-15k on a 5 idler tucker that only needs a motor seems Cheap.

It only takes three 1/2 hr episodes on a tv show to get a hemi hell cat type power plant and bolt it in with some power adders attached. get it to paint and you have a project worth 3x what you paid.

there is 8k worth of boggie wheels on the pile of orange. I would not give you scrap price for those grousers. belts and buckles look pretty good.

If the hydraulic pump is there would be a huge plus. that machine is a clacker. ( you will know what that means when you operate it with those nylon guides) happy bidding, my value was gone long ago.

Tuckers are super cool. with a novice operator they need lockers to do any hard work pulling or pushing. a skilled operator can do great things.
 

Nikson

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worth you ask?

It depends.

supply there is no real supply chain for over the snow transportation to my knowledge there is nothing that an be purchased new that is not hydrostatic or orange. estimated price 150K and up.



Demand is high currently. WE have roofs caving in all around the state of WIsconsin. (again) many people won't pay to have snow removed, and can't do it themselves so their second homes sit and the owner hopes they don't give way to the weight of the snow. I shacks out on lakes, maple syrup operations, logging, utiity work ect.

Given the above;

Dropping 10-15k on a 5 idler tucker that only needs a motor seems Cheap.

It only takes three 1/2 hr episodes on a tv show to get a hemi hell cat type power plant and bolt it in with some power adders attached. get it to paint and you have a project worth 3x what you paid.

there is 8k worth of boggie wheels on the pile of orange. I would not give you scrap price for those grousers. belts and buckles look pretty good.

If the hydraulic pump is there would be a huge plus. that machine is a clacker. ( you will know what that means when you operate it with those nylon guides) happy bidding, my value was gone long ago.

Tuckers are super cool. with a novice operator they need lockers to do any hard work pulling or pushing. a skilled operator can do great things.


LOL... you just made my bidding easier or is it harder...!!! :th_lmao:
 
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