• Please be sure to read the rules and adhere to them. Some banned members have complained that they are not spammers. But they spammed us. Some even tried to redirect our members to other forums. Duh. Be smart. Read the rules and adhere to them and we will all get along just fine. Cheers. :beer: Link to the rules: https://www.forumsforums.com/threads/forum-rules-info.2974/

That the best you can do for Native American DNA, Elizabeth Warren?

Jim_S

Gone But Not Forgotten
GOLD Site Supporter
October 15, 2018
That the best you can do for Native American DNA, Elizabeth Warren?
By Monica Showalter
A
https://www.americanthinker.com/blo...for_native_american_dna_elizabeth_warren.html

Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), the pastiest white woman in the entire Senate, has long been a figure of fun for her claim to be the "first woman of color" to teach at Harvard Law School, owing to her "family lore" of holding Native American ancestry. It doesn't exactly seem to check out based on looking at her, or asking around in the Oklahoma Native American community she claims to be part of. President Trump has had a field day with her pretensions, calling her "Pocahontas."

Now she's come out after a long, long hiatus from those charges to claim that yes, she's found a geneticist who claims she has a Native American ancestor, some six to ten generations back. According to the Washington Post:

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), who is gearing up for a potential 2020 presidential bid, has released a DNA test that suggests she has a distant Native American ancestor, part of an extraordinary effort to discredit President Trump and others who have questioned her claims about her heritage.

Warren's "gotcha" is hardly the "slam dunk" she claims. The genetic finding she cites makes her at most 1/32 Native American, and it could easily be as little as 1/512 Native American. Since Warren's original claim to Native American ancestry was that her great, great grandmother Sara was "part" Native American, that raises the likelihood that she's in the 1/512 range.

This is almost exactly the same as the average white American's composition of Native American ancestry. One out of 512 is 0.19 percent. The average white American's is 0.18 percent, according to Sam Morningstar, who has an authoritative-looking piece on Quora about how Native American ancestry works in the U.S. and the fact that it's frankly, among whites, quite rare. The 0.18 percent average, he notes, is easily misleading, given that most white Americans have utterly no Native American ancestry in them, and a small number have much more.


Here we have Elizabeth Warren, right there on the white-people average for being Indian.

This doesn't even get into the skeeviness of DNA tests (mine told me I was Irish, Greek and Latino, which I find hard to believe), which is often a function of genetic traits matching certain geographic populations. In Warren's claim, her Stanford geneticist (a buddy?) claims there was a high likelihood that she had one unadmixtured Native American ancestor six to ten generations back.

Given the potential buddy factor, one wonders how she'd do in a blind DNA test from Ancestry.com, the kind Trump said he'd like to throw her at a presidential debate. Howie Carr suspects she already had taken that and didn't like the result, which would explain why she has been so silent as Trump has had his fun.

It's funny because, well, she's so white-bread in appearance, much more than most other whites. And her tomato-mayonnaise choice of recipes for a Native American recipe book called Pow Wow Chow, apparently taken from some other publication, couldn't have been more whitey-white, either. Howie Carr exposed that one, too.

What's not funny is that Warren is charged with using that utterly tenuous claim to Indian blood to get a leg up on other applicants for law positions at competitive universities.

Warren was touted in recruitment literature for her Native American heritage by Harvard and Penn, while Fordham Law Review hailed her as Harvard Law's "first woman of color," something she never tried to disabuse the university of at the time as the former house-flipper bit and clawed her way to the top.

She liked the leg up on other white applicants, and never mind that she displaced a genuine Native American from the affirmative action slot. Can a white guy with 1/512 African-American blood now be able to claim that black affirmative action law professor slot now, Liz?

By the way, Harvard is finding itself on the defensive about this these days.

All anyone else can see is that Warren's claim to Native American heritage is still being upstaged by the real issue: that she gamed the system to profit from it. While she may crow about finding a geneticist to say she has a trace of Native American blood, her own website's page titled "fact squad" tells the real story of what she's worried about as she prepares for her next political climb: her long insistence that she never, never, never ever gamed the system – and her website has a, kid you not, 4,000-word apologia to insist she didn't. Talk about the lady doth protest too much.

It doesn't mention the literature or the Pow Wow Chow.

Nice try, Liz. But you're still a fake Indian whose real problem is that you used a drop of ancestry to game an entire system.
 

Doc

Bottoms Up
Staff member
GOLD Site Supporter
So Elizabeth Warren is Indian, Obama was born in the US, Bill Clinton did not have sex with Monica, Holder didn't do fast and furious and Hillary didn't cause the death of Ambassador Stevens and his team.

What BS. I guess they think if they say it enough we'll believe it.
 

Jim_S

Gone But Not Forgotten
GOLD Site Supporter
Democrats Turn on Elizabeth Warren Over October Surprise DNA Report
by KRISTINA WONG 15 Oct 2018

https://www.breitbart.com/national-...beth-warren-over-october-surprise-dna-report/

Democrats on Monday reacted with dismay and disbelief to Sen. Elizabeth Warren’s releasejust three weeks before the midterm elections, of a DNA test showing she may have traces of Native American ancestry.
Jim Messina, Obama 2012 campaign manager, tweeted, “Argue the substance all you want, but why 22 days before a crucial election where we MUST win house and senate to save America, why did @SenWarren have to do her announcement now? Why can’t Dems ever stay focused???”

Jim Messina
@Messina2012
Argue the substance all you want, but why 22 days before a crucial election where we MUST win house and senate to save America, why did
@SenWarren
have to do her announcement now? Why can’t Dems ever stay focused???
11:04 AM · Oct 15, 2018

David Axelrod, former President Obama’s chief campaign strategist and White House adviser, wrote: “The risk I’m sure she considered? This elevates it.”

David Axelrod
@davidaxelrod
Pretty extraordinary video to surface even before you enter the race. It says:
1)
@SenWarren
is 100% running.
2)She thinks this Pocahontas crap is a potential problem.
3)She wants to dispose of it now, lest she be Birtherized.
The risk I’m sure she considered? This elevates it.
Quote Tweet
Elizabeth Warren
@elizabethforma

US Senate candidate, MA
My family (including Fox News-watchers) sat together and talked about what they think of @realDonaldTrump’s attacks on our heritage. And yes, a famous geneticist analyzed my DNA and concluded that it contains Native American

CNN contributor and political analyst Ana Navarro, a Republican who voted for Clinton in 2016, wondered why Warren did not wait until after the midterms, in order to keep the message focused.

“Honestly though, shouldn’t Elizabeth Warren have waited 3 weeks to release her DNA results? There are tight races all over the country. Seems to me, best use of time for any potential Democratic presidential nominee candidate right now, is helping elect other Democrats.”

Ana Navarro
@ananavarro
Honestly though, shouldn’t Elizabeth Warren have waited 3 weeks to release her DNA results? There are tight races all over the country. Seems to me, best use of time for any potential Democratic presidential nominee candidate right now, is helping elect other Democrats.
10:02 AM · Oct 15, 2018

The release of Warren’s test — widely seen as a precursor to a 2020 presidential run — was roundly mocked by conservatives and criticized by some progressives.

The test shows that Warren has between .09 and 1.6 percent Native American ancestry, at the most. According to the New York Times, researchers found that European-Americans had genomes that were on average 98.6 percent European, .19 percent African, and .18 Native American.

As Breitbart’s Joel Pollak summarizes, she may be no more Native American than the average white American.

“This seems like a distraction,” wrote Jeff Blattner, former chief counsel to Sen. Edward Kennedy and former deputy assistant attorney general.

Joe Lockhart
@joelockhart
·
9h
I think she sees at as a way to stand out from the crowd in standing up to and beating Trump
3
8
Jeff Blattner
Jeff Blattner
@theblatt
Replying to
@joelockhart

@davidaxelrod
and
@SenWarren
Agree — but I wonder about the timing. I assume she wanted to get it out of the way before candidates’ 2020 announcements post-election. But Dems need to stay on message between now and 11/6, and this seems like a distraction.
9:53 AM · Oct 15, 2018

A former Google employee summed it up this way: “I’m hard pressed to find anything worse to talk about 3 weeks from the midterms than Bill Clinton’s affairs or Elizabeth Warren’s heritage.”

Vote November 6th
@sarahcpr
I'm hard pressed to find anything worse to talk about 3 weeks from the midterms than Bill Clinton's affairs or Elizabeth Warren's heritage
12:58 PM · Oct 15, 2018
 

Jim_S

Gone But Not Forgotten
GOLD Site Supporter
Elizabeth Warren Ancestor Rounded Up Cherokees For Trail of Tears
by MICHAEL PATRICK LEAHY 8 May 2018

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2012/05/08/elizabeth-warren-ancestor-trail-of-tears/

For over a quarter of a century, Elizabeth Warren has described herself as a Native American. When recently asked to provide evidence of her ancestry, she pointed to an unsubstantiated claim on an 1894 Oklahoma Territory marriage license application by her great-great grand uncle William J. Crawford that his mother, O.C. Sarah Smith Crawford, Ms. Warren’s great-great-great grandmother, was a Cherokee.
After researching her story, it is obvious that her “family lore” is just fiction.

As I pointed out in my article here on Sunday, no evidence supports this claim. O.C. Sarah Smith Crawford had no Cherokee heritage, was listed as “white” in the Census of 1860, and was most likely half Swedish and half English, Scottish, or German, or some combination thereof. (Note, the actual 1894 marriage license makes no claim of Cherokee ancestry.)

But the most stunning discovery about the life of O.C. Sarah Smith Crawford is that her husband, Ms. Warren’s great-great-great grandfather, was apparently a member of the Tennessee Militia who rounded up Cherokees from their family homes in the Southeastern United States and herded them into government-built stockades in what was then called Ross’s Landing (now Chattanooga), Tennessee–the point of origin for the horrific Trail of Tears, which began in January, 1837.

This new information about Ms. Warren’s true heritage came as a direct result of a lead provided to me by William Jacobson over at Legal Insurrection, who in turn had received the information from one of his readers. Jacobson, who has questioned Warren’s explanation for her law faculty listing, calls this discovery “the ultimate and cruelest irony” of the Warren Cherokee saga.

Jonathan Crawford, O.C. Sarah Smith Crawford’s husband and apparently Ms. Warren’s great-great-great grandfather, served in the East Tennessee Mounted Infantry Volunteer Militia commanded by Brigadier General R. G. Dunlap from late 1835 to late 1836. While under Dunlap’s command he was a member of Major William Lauderdale’s Battalion, and Captain Richard E. Waterhouse’s Company.

These were the troops responsible for removing Cherokee families from homes they had lived in for generations in the three states that the Cherokee Nations had considered their homelands for centuries: Georgia, North Carolina, and Tennessee.

While these involuntary home removals were not characterized by widespread violence, the newly displaced Cherokee mothers, fathers, and children found an oppressive and sometimes brutal welcome when they finally arrived at the hastily constructed containment areas. An estimated 4,000 Cherokees were warehoused in Ross’s Landing stockades for months awaiting supplies and additional armed guards the Federal Government believed necessary to relocate them on foot to Oklahoma.

Jonathan Crawford most likely did not join the regular Army troops who “escorted” these Cherokees along the Trail of Tears. He did, however, serve once more with Major William Lauderdale’s re-formed Batallion of Tennessee Mounted Infantry Volunteer Militia. This group fought the Seminole Indians in Florida during the Second Seminole War. Crawford arrived in Florida in November, 1837, and served there for six months until his unit was disbanded in Baton Rouge, Louisiana the following May. (Note: It was not uncommon in those days for militia formed to serve for a limited period of time under specific commanders would reform later under the same commanders.)

Jonathan Crawford’s service as a Private in Captain Richard E. Waterhouse’s Company of Major William Lauderdale’s Battalion of Mounted Infantry in Brigadier General R. G. Dunlap’s East Tennessee Mounted Infantry Volunteers is confirmed by his appearance in the muster roll of the Brigade, taken around June of 1836. (Note that this transcription of the muster roll incorrectly lists the date as 1832.)

His service a year later (1837) in Major William Lauderdale’s Tennessee Volunteer Mounted Infantry (Five companies of volunteers, one of which was led by Captain Richard E. Waterhouse) is confirmed by his widow O.C. Sarah Smith Crawford’s 1851 pension application before the Bledsoe County, Tennessee commissioners

Meanwhile, William J. Crawford (Elizabeth Warren’s great-great grandfather who would, fifty-seven years later, falsely claim that his mother was Cherokee in that now-infamous 1894 Oklahoma Territory marriage license application) was born in Bledsoe County, Tennessee in 1837. This was just a few months after his father apparently helped remove thousands of Cherokees from their homes and a few months before his father went off to fight Seminole Indians in Florida.

His father, Jonathan Crawford, Elizabeth Warren’s great-great-great grandfather, died in Jackson County, Tennessee in 1841. His mother, O.C. Sarah Smith Crawford, died sometime between 1860 and 1870 – most likely in Bledsoe County, Tennessee.

Neither O.C. Sarah Smith Crawford, Jonathan Crawford, nor any of their seven other children, apparently ever claimed that O.C. Sarah Smith Crawford had Cherokee heritage.

As recently as two weeks ago, Ms. Warren publicly claimed to have Native American ancestry. In Dorchester, Massachusetts on April 27 at the Bricklayers and Allied Craftsmen Apprentice Training Center she stated, “I am very proud of my Native American heritage.” Yet, decades after she first made this same claim, it now appears that it is without any foundation.

It is time for Ms. Warren to publicly acknowledge the truth of her ancestry. It is time for her to admit that she has no Native American heritage that she can prove; and it is time for her to acknowledge instead, that she is likely a direct descendant of a Tennessee Militiaman who apparently rounded up the ancestors of those who truly have Cherokee heritage, the first step in their forced removal from the Southeastern United States to Oklahoma over the long and tragic Trail of Tears.

Michael Patrick Leahy is the Editor of Broadside Books’ Voices of the Tea Party e-book series, and author of Covenant of Liberty: The Ideological Origins of the Tea Party Movement.
 

tiredretired

The Old Salt
SUPER Site Supporter
I am having a really hard time trying to decide which one is dumber, Warren or Hillary. Just when I think I know, the other one comes up with such stupid shit it sends me back to square one.
 

Jim_S

Gone But Not Forgotten
GOLD Site Supporter
I am having a really hard time trying to decide which one is dumber, Warren or Hillary. Just when I think I know, the other one comes up with such stupid shit it sends me back to square one.

The game is still on. Neither has played all their cards! :bolt:

The interesting thing is both of them pi$$ed off their fellow Democrats on the same day! :th_lmao:
 

Jim_S

Gone But Not Forgotten
GOLD Site Supporter
Warren 2020 . . .
 

Attachments

  • B406C777-45BF-42FF-B282-2287E63D0A5E.jpeg
    B406C777-45BF-42FF-B282-2287E63D0A5E.jpeg
    28.8 KB · Views: 48

Jim_S

Gone But Not Forgotten
GOLD Site Supporter
Cherokee Nation: “Senator Warren is undermining tribal interests with her continued claims of tribal heritage.”
Posted by Kemberlee Kaye Monday, October 15, 2018 at 5:36pm

https://legalinsurrection.com/2018/...her-continued-claims-of-tribal-heritage/#more

“A DNA test is useless to determine tribal citizenship.”

Sen. Warren, call your office.

Monday, Sen. Elizabeth Warren released the results of a DNA test which shows she *might* have some Native American ancestry 6 to 10 generations ago. Might.

The Cherokee Nation has issued a statement rejecting Warren’s attempt to use DNA evidence to prove she’s Native American:

“A DNA test is useless to determine tribal citizenship. Current DNA tests do not even distinguish whether a person’s ancestors were indigenous to North or South America,” Cherokee Nation Secretary of State Chuck Hoskin, Jr. said. “Sovereign tribal national set their own legal requirements for citizenship, and while DNA tests can be used to determine lineage, such as paternity to an individual, it is not evidence for tribal affiliation. Using a DNA test to lay claim to any connection to the Cherokee Nation or any tribal nation, even vaguely, is inappropriate and wrong. It makes a mockery out of DNA tests and its legitimate uses while also dishonoring legitimate tribal governments and their citizens, whose ancestors are well documented and whose heritage is proven. Senator Warren is undermining tribal interests with her continued claims of tribal heritage.”

See also, here:
 

Attachments

  • 7A0BC19F-E097-443B-89D8-F9BE2CC7A683.png
    7A0BC19F-E097-443B-89D8-F9BE2CC7A683.png
    75.6 KB · Views: 47
  • 78A2C605-6817-41B0-ABC3-B963B0C6B45A.png
    78A2C605-6817-41B0-ABC3-B963B0C6B45A.png
    327.7 KB · Views: 45

Danang Sailor

nullius in verba
GOLD Site Supporter
I am having a really hard time trying to decide which one is dumber, Warren or Hillary. Just when I think I know, the other one comes up with such stupid shit it sends me back to square one.
Warren wins the "Dumber" prize. Hillary isn't dumb, she is pure evil. :hammer:
 

Jim_S

Gone But Not Forgotten
GOLD Site Supporter
Elizabeth Warren misappropriated “the identity of one of the most victimized people in history”
Posted by William A. Jacobson Monday, October 15, 2018 at 10:30pm

https://legalinsurrection.com/2018/...ost-victimized-people-in-history/#more-262929

“This is a woman who built her political narrative claiming that other people are rigging the system. She tried to rig her career by claiming a status to which she’s not entitled.”

I appeared on Tucker Carlson Tonight to discuss Elizabeth Warren’s DNA test and the controversy surrounding her claim to be Native American.

I covered the story earlier Elizabeth Warren DNA test does NOT prove she’s Native American, contrary to the hype.

Here is the video of my appearance and a couple of key quotes:

“This is a woman who built her political narrative claiming that other people are rigging the system. She tried to rig her career by claiming a status to which she’s not entitled.”

“Does it really matter whether she benefitted. She tried to benefit. She tried to get an advantage over other people by claiming a status to which she’s not entitled. It’s the worst form of cultural appropriation, or misappropriation, which is a very hot topic in progressive circles. She tried to misappropriate the identity of one of the most victimized people in history, or at least in recent history, which is Native Americans. And progressives seem not to care.”

A
[ame="http://youtube.com/watch?v=9YW-puh6QrQ"]Elizabeth Warren's DNA test results - YouTube[/ame]
A
 

Attachments

  • 4175E904-BBFC-48DA-86DB-98C41B02554B.jpeg
    4175E904-BBFC-48DA-86DB-98C41B02554B.jpeg
    66 KB · Views: 39

Jim_S

Gone But Not Forgotten
GOLD Site Supporter
Elizabeth Warren Melts Down in Wake of DNA Disaster
by JOHN NOLTE 15 Oct 2018

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2018/10/15/elizabeth-warren-melts-down-in-wake-of-dna-disaster/

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) launched a bizarre Twitter rant late Monday afternoon following the disastrous rollout of DNA results that further debunked her decades-long claim to American Indian ancestry.
Warren’s thread of 20-plus (and counting) tweets began at about 5:30 p.m. ET, where she attempted to both insult President Trump and defend herself.

In her first tweet, and without any evidence, Warren made the outlandish claim that Trump “makes creepy physical threats about me.” The truth is that all Trump has ever done is ridicule her false claims about being Cherokee.

“We all know why @realDonaldTrump makes creepy physical threats about me, right? He’s scared,” Warren tweeted from her verified account. “He’s trying to do what he always does to women who scare him: call us names, attack us personally, shrink us down to feel better about himself. It may soothe his ego – but it won’t work.”

Warren linked comments Trump made Monday ridiculing Warren’s DNA test. After a reporter suggested Trump owed her an apology, an incredulous president responded, “I owe her? She owes the country an apology. What’s her percentage [of Indian ancestry]? 1/1,000th?”

The actual numbers could be anywhere from 1/64 to 1/1024. Regardless, all this DNA test proved is that Warren has no more claim to Indian heritage than the average white American.

Elizabeth Warren
@elizabethforma

US Senate candidate, MA
We all know why
@realDonaldTrump
makes creepy physical threats about me, right? He’s scared. He’s trying to do what he always does to women who scare him: call us names, attack us personally, shrink us down to feel better about himself. It may soothe his ego – but it won’t work.

Trump added that he would only pay off a bet he made with her about her Indian ancestry “if I can test her personally, and that will not be something I will enjoy doing either.”

Trump once made an offer to pay $1 million to Warren’s favorite charity if DNA proved she was of American Indian ancestry. Trump need not worry, because this DNA test proved she is not Indian. What’s more, the test did not even compare her DNA sample to American Indians.

Buried in the Boston Globe story is this bombshell: “To make up for the dearth of Native American DNA, Bustamante used samples from Mexico, Peru, and Colombia to stand in for Native American.” So all the test proved is that Warren might be 1/64 to 1/1024 Mexican, Peruvian, or Colombian — which again makes her no different than the average white American.

Warren’s rambling Twitter thread continued with a link to the Boston Globe, a far-left outlet desperate to protect Warren from this Cherokee controversy. The Globe article argues that Warren’s false claim of Indian ancestry had nothing to do with her success in academia.

Between 1987 and 1995, Warren identified herself as “Native American” while she was teaching law at the University of Pennsylvania Law School and Harvard. The latter used Warren false Cherokee identity to brag about the school’s racial diversity.

Far from done on Twitter, Warren then turned her fire back on Trump, accusing him of racism in one tweet, of being a tax cheat in another. As the minutes ticked by, the tweets became more erratic and even more personal.

“If @realDonaldTrump – a cowardly elitist who has never known or cared what life is like for anyone who’s ever lived outside of a skyscraper in Manhattan – wants to talk about authenticity, well then, let’s talk about who’s REALLY pretending to be someone they’re not,” she tweeted.

Then she attacked his success as a businessman; then she attacked the tax cuts he passed last year; then she called him “the most corrupt President in American history;” then she suggested he is a draft dodger…

And then her rant began to read like Kevin Spacey’s diaries in the movie Se7en.

“Oh, and one more thing. @realDonaldTrump likes to pretend he’s a real tough guy. But like most bullies, he sure scares easy, doesn’t he?”

“He’s afraid to stand up to Vladimir Putin in defense of our country, afraid to talk to Robert Mueller because he knows he’ll crack under the pressure, and so afraid to go out in public, he hides out at his own golf clubs.”

“And you know what scares him the most? Us. The American people. He’s afraid we’ll see him for who he really is and expose the con he’s been running on our country from Day One.”

“And @realDonaldTrump should be scared – because on November 6, we’re going to bust up that con once and for all.”

And on and on she went, hectoring and badgering the president.

Warren is obviously looking for a way to regain her footing after the disastrous rollout of her DNA test, which not only proved she has no claim whatsoever to any sort of Indian ancestry, but that she lacks the judgment and poise to run for president.

Warren’s rollout was such a debacle, she has now been disavowed by the Cherokee Nation, and a number of high profile Democrats are publicly questioning the judgment of her timing — just three weeks before the midterm elections.

Warren’s disconnected and strident Twitter meltdown is certain to increase these questions about her readiness and steadiness to take on Trump in 2020.



Follow John Nolte on Twitter @NolteNC. Follow his Facebook Page here.
 

Attachments

  • ED02D4EC-95E9-483A-8D65-1E96531FFF2F.png
    ED02D4EC-95E9-483A-8D65-1E96531FFF2F.png
    160.4 KB · Views: 41

Jim_S

Gone But Not Forgotten
GOLD Site Supporter
October 16, 2018
Cherokee nation rains on Elizabeth Warren's parade
By Monica Showalter
A
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2018/10/cherokee_nation_rains_on_elizabeth_warrens_parade.html

So Elizabeth Warren was doing a victory dance about her DNA test showing 'strong evidence' she may have 1/1,024 or 0.09 percent Native American lineage. In hot pursuit, she called on President Trump to 'pay up' with his $1 million offer to the charity of her choice for taking the DNA test he said he would toss to her at a future presidential debate, earlier. As the network press admiringly gushed about the whole 'gotcha,' she was convinced she had him cornered.

Well, sorry, that debate hasn't happened yet and now it's doubtful it ever will, because Warren is hearing from the leaders of the Cherokee nation.

Here is their astonishing rebuke to her for what they rightly view as a shabby little publicity stunt at their expense:

A Cherokee Nation official rebuked Democratic Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts after a DNA test report published Monday asserted there is evidence to "strong support" Warren's claim to have Native American ancestors.

Cherokee Nation Secretary of State Chuck Hoskin Jr. called the test cited by Warren's report "useless" in determining tribal citizenship and alleged she was "undermining tribal interests" with her "continued claims of tribal heritage."


"A DNA test is useless to determine tribal citizenship. Current DNA tests do not even distinguish whether a person's ancestors were indigenous to North or South America," Hoskin said in a statement.

"Using a DNA test to lay claim to any connection to the Cherokee Nation or any tribal nation, even vaguely, is inappropriate and wrong." Hoskin added. "It makes a mockery out of DNA tests and its legitimate uses while also dishonoring legitimate tribal governments and their citizens, whose ancestors are well documented and whose heritage is proven."

And yes, they are right to be angry.

The Cherokee nation is likely inundated by white wannabees who keep claiming membership in their much-admired tribe. There's a reason the Stanford professor friend of hers, who did the DNA test, was unable to compare Warren's genome to a genuine Cherokee genome, and had to use a Latin American one instead as an approximation: The Native Americans don't want that out there. They don't like whites to manipulate it to claim membership, because they already know who their members are. If they did, they'd have every idiot out there claiming to have Cherokee blood and a claim on Cherokee tribal membership. Fake Indian and leftist Ward Churchill would be the first in line after Warren.

Far from being dumb Indians that such lefty whites presume they are, Cherokees have a very well documented history and ancestral records. They already know who their own are.

They rightly read the whole thing as a quest by Warren for their political imprimatur to advance her ambitions, which they aren't about to give, particularly given Warren's rather famous indifference to standing up for their interests.

Be sure to read the whole thing because it quotes other Native American leaders who consider Warren's behavior during the whole brouhaha as self-serving in the extreme.

And it's not just the Cherokees who are disgusted. Leftish Simon Moya-Smith, a Native American member of the Oglala-Lakota tribe had some harsh words for her, too:

Warren claims now to have Native American heritage. And her claim to having such heritage -- versus a claim of actually being Native -- feels sneaky to me. Where has she been on these many issues that plague our communities? Although the results from her DNA test are new, her identity claims here aren't. Why has she ignored us for so long? Why only now come around? This latest disclosure lets her save face without having responsibilities to the Native community she's claiming to share heritage with. Furthermore, name me one nation or tribe that claims her. None do.

It's obvious to anyone with eyes in their sockets or brains in their heads: because Warren needs our stamp of approval and our vote as she contemplates a potential presidential run. That's why.

With the Native Americans weighing in, it's increasingly obvious that Warren falsely assumed their identity to secure plum university jobs at the University of Pennsylvania and Harvard, and it came at their expense. No yelling to Trump to 'pay up' is going to cover that hard fact up.

Far from Trump paying up, the Cherokees show that it's Elizabeth Warren who needs to pay up. She's now exposed as a fraud and her career is going to take a hit.
 

Jim_S

Gone But Not Forgotten
GOLD Site Supporter
October 16, 2018
Warren's DNA and the silly state of the Democratic Party
By Silvio Canto, Jr.
A
https://www.americanthinker.com/blo..._the_silly_state_of_the_democratic_party.html

Over the weekend, we got the confirmation. Senator Warren has American Indian blood, or so we hear from a DNA test:

The inherent imprecision of the six-page DNA analysis could provide fodder for Warren’s critics. If her great-great-great-grandmother was Native American, that puts her at 1/32nd American Indian.

But the report includes the possibility that she’s just 1/1024th Native American if the ancestor is 10 generations back.

Well, aren't you relieved?

My problem is that most people are probably 1/1024th something!


In my case, my mother's family came to Cuba from Asturias, Spain. On my father's side, the first Canto came to Cuba from Spain in the 1840s.

However, Spain was occupied by Moors for 700 years. My guess is that most people of Spanish blood are at least 1/1024th Moorish.

Does that mean that I apply for a government grant and claim that I'm Moroccan-Spanish-Cuban and naturalized American?

Once again, we see how identity politics is destroying the Democrats.

Wonder what DNA test Senator Cory Booker will release? Maybe he will show that he was 1/1024th Spartacus?

In the meantime, we are still waiting for Senator Warren to tell us how the Democrats will pay for universal health care.

PS: You can listen to my show (Canto Talk) and follow me on Twitter.
 

Attachments

  • 95021BEA-324E-4261-B7D4-475F8E78C823.png
    95021BEA-324E-4261-B7D4-475F8E78C823.png
    185.8 KB · Views: 43

Jim_S

Gone But Not Forgotten
GOLD Site Supporter
I thought this subject was completely exposed until this showed up! :th_lmao:
 

Attachments

  • 7116874A-8165-423D-A509-34845842C234.jpeg
    7116874A-8165-423D-A509-34845842C234.jpeg
    68.7 KB · Views: 44

Doc

Bottoms Up
Staff member
GOLD Site Supporter
Dennis Miller said "This Elizabeth Warren press release can mean only one thing. She's about to sue some poor bastard for residual casino ownership shares."
 

Doc

Bottoms Up
Staff member
GOLD Site Supporter
Hey hey hey ...lookie here. :yum:
 

Attachments

  • PartBaldEagle.jpg
    PartBaldEagle.jpg
    18.1 KB · Views: 48

Jim_S

Gone But Not Forgotten
GOLD Site Supporter
Fake!
 

Attachments

  • 3CD74A34-C4FB-451F-93E8-3C6F050DA829.jpeg
    3CD74A34-C4FB-451F-93E8-3C6F050DA829.jpeg
    72.1 KB · Views: 38
  • C130573C-2BD6-409D-9DF1-4AF8B27F0FE5.jpeg
    C130573C-2BD6-409D-9DF1-4AF8B27F0FE5.jpeg
    42.8 KB · Views: 40
  • 655B07F7-E121-40A4-A82A-E7B028C098E4.jpeg
    655B07F7-E121-40A4-A82A-E7B028C098E4.jpeg
    35.1 KB · Views: 42
  • 990DD820-E9EA-4A50-9528-C68BE3B81851.jpeg
    990DD820-E9EA-4A50-9528-C68BE3B81851.jpeg
    48.2 KB · Views: 38

waybomb

Well-known member
GOLD Site Supporter
OK, here's what I know. I've known a couple of full blood Sioux. I also know a few redskins of unknown heritage. And I've been to an Indian bar a couple of times with the Siouxs.
They drink.
They not only drink, they get shitfaced drunk.
They drink a normal shitfaced drunk under the table, heck, into the basement.
They get so drunk, they don;t even know who they are and why did I drive them to this house.


That's the background.


She says she has some Indian in her. I think she was drinking, hooked up with a drunk Cherokee, and when he woke up in the am, he ran the hell outa there and hasn't touched a drop of booze since.
 

Jim_S

Gone But Not Forgotten
GOLD Site Supporter
First law of holes . . .
 

Attachments

  • A076BD80-94E2-4F17-BD50-D2ED1B7D305D.jpeg
    A076BD80-94E2-4F17-BD50-D2ED1B7D305D.jpeg
    213.6 KB · Views: 26

Jim_S

Gone But Not Forgotten
GOLD Site Supporter
More fake!
 

Attachments

  • A01A573D-BD89-4AA1-B743-36BCF71D96F4.jpeg
    A01A573D-BD89-4AA1-B743-36BCF71D96F4.jpeg
    76.2 KB · Views: 20
  • A04E0079-5206-4043-A49C-6E9FD1CB293A.jpeg
    A04E0079-5206-4043-A49C-6E9FD1CB293A.jpeg
    126.7 KB · Views: 20
  • DB7C0462-C7B4-4937-8173-7655C6414DED.jpeg
    DB7C0462-C7B4-4937-8173-7655C6414DED.jpeg
    68.7 KB · Views: 18
  • ECB81BAF-097D-4F14-BB06-7617423672CB.jpeg
    ECB81BAF-097D-4F14-BB06-7617423672CB.jpeg
    96.2 KB · Views: 18
  • 1B3CCDBB-2C80-48AB-9DDA-0200BD66432D.jpg
    1B3CCDBB-2C80-48AB-9DDA-0200BD66432D.jpg
    50.5 KB · Views: 19
  • CDE282A9-6E04-4A73-81C5-1C3C3168DDBB.jpg
    CDE282A9-6E04-4A73-81C5-1C3C3168DDBB.jpg
    48.7 KB · Views: 19
  • 17376F43-48AB-4C7E-B66E-764BD3C23CB7.jpg
    17376F43-48AB-4C7E-B66E-764BD3C23CB7.jpg
    46.1 KB · Views: 18
  • 75BC6EDA-46C3-4C44-9960-0D3A40A0A7B5.jpeg
    75BC6EDA-46C3-4C44-9960-0D3A40A0A7B5.jpeg
    90.2 KB · Views: 19
  • 6068CA5D-99D8-45BF-858F-E1E970193D9D.jpeg
    6068CA5D-99D8-45BF-858F-E1E970193D9D.jpeg
    88.4 KB · Views: 20

Jim_S

Gone But Not Forgotten
GOLD Site Supporter
More . . .
 

Attachments

  • 0245224B-2F55-4979-BD27-B76C70D93467.jpeg
    0245224B-2F55-4979-BD27-B76C70D93467.jpeg
    87.9 KB · Views: 20
  • 796DAF1D-F919-42C0-ADAD-4AC64BE87BDA.jpeg
    796DAF1D-F919-42C0-ADAD-4AC64BE87BDA.jpeg
    67.2 KB · Views: 21
  • B48C2AA4-A51C-4FB1-96E7-6D58DD7C959D.jpeg
    B48C2AA4-A51C-4FB1-96E7-6D58DD7C959D.jpeg
    90.9 KB · Views: 19
  • 11826A53-0065-4ABA-922E-F29A3A31362F.jpeg
    11826A53-0065-4ABA-922E-F29A3A31362F.jpeg
    68.8 KB · Views: 19
  • 08CC5DAC-A75C-4D5B-A50B-C38959A7FC6D.jpeg
    08CC5DAC-A75C-4D5B-A50B-C38959A7FC6D.jpeg
    48 KB · Views: 19
  • 845D7226-7CC4-4C21-A1B5-89CE47E53C5C.png
    845D7226-7CC4-4C21-A1B5-89CE47E53C5C.png
    106.2 KB · Views: 19
  • FE601888-EE72-4289-943D-118CCEB89332.jpg
    FE601888-EE72-4289-943D-118CCEB89332.jpg
    72.3 KB · Views: 20
  • B5AFBC0F-539B-488F-A8E0-EB3AB0E94CC6.jpeg
    B5AFBC0F-539B-488F-A8E0-EB3AB0E94CC6.jpeg
    44.9 KB · Views: 19

Jim_S

Gone But Not Forgotten
GOLD Site Supporter
Warren’s Pocahontas Wackiness Shows How Liberals Are A Bunch Of Bigots
Kurt Schlichter|Posted: Oct 18, 2018 12:01 AM

https://townhall.com/columnists/kur...s-how-liberals-are-a-bunch-of-bigots-n2529315

It’s really tough to think of any fresh new ways to mock noted 1023/1024 white person Elizabeth Big Chief Miracle Whip Warren, so I admit I approached writing this column with some reservations.

Oh, snap. This is too easy, like convincing a college sophomore from Santa Monica that America can embrace socialism, yet her daddy will still be able to buy her a cute BMW convertible.

It’s also irresistible, and so right, to mock this ambitious poser. I can just see the old Mazola ad with the Indian woman saying, “Your people call this ‘corn.’ My people call it ‘maize,’ so Elizabeth Warren calls it ‘corn.’”

The thing that gets me is that Fauxcohantas actually thought that going public with her fractional indigenous-osity was a good idea. She really did – this is the keen, considered judgment of someone who wants to have her finger on The Button, folks. I’ll take the reality star who scores with Playmates and can’t be Tonto-shamed any day.

Yes, somewhere, inside her circle of sycophants, they talked this through and decided that it was a savvy political move to announce with great fanfare that the first female Harvard law professor of color’s color was 99%+ white.

Take that Donald Trump, who is now racist for mocking a manifestly white person for pretending not to be a white person, which she manifestly is. Oh, and you’re racist too, for some reason.

Who are these bubble-dwelling lunatics? Well, I wrote about them in my new book, Militant Normals: How Regular Americans Are Rebelling Against the Elite to Reclaim Our Democracy, and I am not nice to them. Not even a little. Because they are stupid, and they think they should tell us how to live, and that’s not happening.

These are the same people with the wisdom and insightful grasp of human nature who reasoned, “This DNA test that shows Liz is about 1% Indian, so it will definitely convince Normals that she was totally right jumping aboard the affirmative action gravy train!”

Again, the people who thought this was a good idea want to rule us.

The elite, particularly the liberal elite, is totally out of touch with Normals. For that matter, so is the conservative-ish elite, many of whom think they’re contributing to the struggle by selling you a cruise where you can listen to Fredocon weasels like the insufferable Ben Sasse nagging you while sipping Zimas on the Lido Deck.

But it’s the liberal elite that actually imagines that we buy into the same bizarre constellation of racial weirdness that dominates their clique. They rank and rate everyone by their perceived position in the grand hierarchy of grievances. Warren gets 5 victim points for being a girl, and 20 points for being an Indian. If she only dug chicks, wore a burka, and had a limp, she would hit a grand slam in the victimhood World Series.

It’s all just so weird, basing your self-image on who your grandmother was. And in the Commie Squaw’s case, it’s her great-great-great-great-great-great grandma. It's even creepier basing your views of others on the same meaningless criteria.

Their racism, sexism, and other -isms and -phobias are all so stupid that you can’t help but point at their prejudices and laugh, which really sets Shoveling Bull on the warpath because to her and her elite pals, it’s all so very, very serious.

They actually believe this bigoted garbage. And they hate us because we don’t. And they really hate us when we laugh at them.

But how are we supposed to react? Are we supposed to take them seriously? Nah. We look at people for who they are. Some guy used to call our criteria for evaluating others “the content of their character,” but our alleged betters now dismiss that crazy talk as the ravings of some Christian kook mansplaining away his privilege. We live in the real world, where this nuttiness doesn’t fly, as opposed to an elite that lives in the institutional nuthouses of academia, the media, and the Democrat Party where this nonsense is their secular religion. With them, it’s a constant struggle of the unoppressed oppressed bickering over the spoils of victimhood.

Hard pass.

Think about your life as a Normal. You’re always interacting with people of all races, ethnicities, orientations, and creeds. And statistically, you deal with people more Indian than Elizabeth Warren every day, which isn’t hard since statistically pretty much everyone is more Indian than Elizabeth Warren. Hell, my wife – a Cuban immigrant – did one of those DNA tests and she’s more Indian than Elizabeth Warren. Really.

We’re too busy to care about immutable characteristics, and even if we weren’t we wouldn’t do it because we think caring about that stuff is stupid. Our elite, on the other hand, appears to have nothing better to do than obsess about who fits in what category. Why? Well, our elite’s track record over recent decades is pretty much an unbroken series of failures and fiascos. Since they can’t actually do anything, they really have little else to distinguish themselves with besides their membership (or fake membership) in some oppressed group.

It used to be “Those who can, do; those who can’t, teach.” Now, it’s “Those who can, do; those who can’t teach oppression studies down at the university and dress up like handmaids to protest due process.”

Yet, these are the people who think they should be ruling over us. They think we’re the mindless idiots, and they can’t even see past someone’s skin tone. Pathetic.

Again, hard pass on your proposed reign of racial error, kemosabe. We’ll stick with that “content of your character” stuff.

My just-released book Militant Normals: How Regular Americans Are Rebelling Against the Elite to Reclaim Our Democracy is annoying liberals, pinkos, SJWs, comm-symps, Never Trump sissies, and people who think Elizabeth Warren totally is a Cherokeee. Order it now to own them all.
 
Top