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Gambling Casino's.... Yes or No

Please vote AFTER you read all the choices below. You may vote for more than one.

  • there is room for more casino's

    Votes: 4 40.0%
  • there are already enough casino's in the US

    Votes: 4 40.0%
  • casino's should be banned totally

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • I am a gambler

    Votes: 1 10.0%
  • I am not a gambler

    Votes: 6 60.0%
  • I have been to a casino

    Votes: 7 70.0%
  • I have never been to a casino

    Votes: 1 10.0%
  • I lost my shirt at the casino

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • gambling is immoral and all gambling should be illegal

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • gambling is immoral, but should be legal for those that want to gamble

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    10

Junkman

Extra Super Moderator
The Bureau of Indian Affairs is now reviewing two tribes from Connecticut that are seeking recognition. Once they get recognition, the next most probable step is they will start building a gambling casino. What are your thoughts on the casino's??? I don't want this to get into the recognition of the tribe discussion, but anyone that wants to discuss that can start their own thread on the topic.
Personally, I see nothing wrong with the states allowing gambling as long as they share in the profits. You are not going to stop the activity and the casino's do employ a lot of people, which all pay both state and federal income taxes. Add to that the amount of sales taxes that are paid by these people pay and it amounts to a lot given back.
 

LarryRB

Member
***casino's***

This is a real sore spot with me and Junkman knows it... For one, the casino's in CT are exempt from federal and state taxes. This is the number one reason I am against the Indians getting recognition. Now I am not against those remaining from the original Indians, I am against their totally free ride in which most still are at poverty level and a few law firms are raking in billions per year... The people that work there get 1099's at the end of the year, There are lot's of people living around us that work there in various positions, Of course there are a few privately run Kiosks and small snack bar type places that do pay fed/state tax on the employees. THESE ARE NOT THE INDIANS.. Governor Wiecker was the one who forced them to pay a small percentage of the one arms and this by law, goes to education and nothing else. I don't know why everyone thinks they are paying taxes because THEY ARE NOT, they are exempt....
Second thing,
It is our family property that they are after, along with some of the neighbors,. I have the written offers here, and they are worse than disgracefull to say the least. Anyone thinking they will be millionaire's if the Indians buy you out for a casino,, THINK AGAIN.. Their lawyers are cheap pricks, offering 70% of town assessment... When you don't accept the offer, a funny thing happens,,,, The values drop below rock bottom, all of a sudden serious board of health problems come up and the harrassment is beyond reproach..... THen most are locked into not even being able to pay off an exisiting mortage.. THese Indian lawyers are real creeps and don't care who they burn in the process.. It's OK to live ten miles away, in a very off beaten place that only wild animals can find,, it is a lot different if it is your property and having to put up with these tribes lawyer groups (All of which, come out of Minn, MN).. The Indians want better health, education, even help build homes, I have no problem with that, I have a major problem with these lawyer groups (USING INDIAN REPRESENTATION) to better the lawyers and their secret financial backers,... SO NO, I am adamantly opposed to INDIANS having more casino's. I guess I'll have to bring Junkman to another multi state meeting, where local municipalities showed proof of extreme hardship because of new casino's. One would think they would bend over backwards and help things like roads, water ,sewer if needed maybe a new fire truck or something... Quite the opposite is true, at least in CT>>>
Third,
If these casino's were privately owned and operated, then I would be for it.. I watched at one of these meetings (local town selectman, state senators and representatives) where in Reno, each casino is responsible for some municipal function. For instance, two of the largest out there pay their taxes which supports local police only. Other casino's pick up the cost for garbage collection, and other local municipal functions as needed, Also, they, on ocassion are not afraid to buy a new cruiser, fire truck, somethig significant for the local girl or boy scouts and this type of thing. And, best of all, THEY REALLY DO PAY FED/STATE Taxes!! They are not exempt...
 

Junkman

Extra Super Moderator
Re: ***casino's***

The person that I know that works at Foxwoods told me that he gets a W-2 like all other working people. He pays taxes on all his wages.
 

Melensdad

Jerk in a Hawaiian Shirt & SNOWCAT Moderator
Staff member
GOLD Site Supporter
Re: ***casino's***

I'm a non-gambler, but I go to Vegas twice a year and could probably qualify as a tour guide. I have no real moral problem with gambling but I understand why some do. I have no real problem with legalized gambling, but I'm not a big supporter of it.

All that said, I think the discussion of gambling can be divided into a couple different topics.

Native American tax-exempt Casinos
- Versus -
For Profit tax paying corporation Casinos

SPECIFICALLY REGARDING NATIVE AMERICAN CASINOS:
I have the very same problem with Native American Casinios that I have with Native American Gas Stations and Native American Cigarette Stores.
- They avoid paying most EXCISE taxes.
- They pay no property taxes.
- They pay no sales taxes.
- They have an unfair competitive advantage
- They seem to line the pockets of very few very wealthy individuals but doop the uneducated public into believing they support a whole tribe and share the wealth in some truely beneficial way.
 

Junkman

Extra Super Moderator
The voting polls are now open...... Please forgive the oversight....

Sorry about closing this thread. I made a mistake on the original and you were only able to vote on one choice. I have now fixed this. In the future if you find a thread closed, then that means that it is being moved or repaired for some reason. Please check back later and it should be opened.
 
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