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With 1 in 5 Americans out of work, Obama issues over a million green cards?!?

pirate_girl

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The Department of Homeland Security has just reported that during 2009, they issued 1,130,818 new Green Cards to foreign nationals, allowing them to work legally in this country. That number represents the fourth highest number of cards issued in one year.

750,000 of the new Green Cards were given to the families of U.S. citizens and legal permanent residents.

The top four recipient nations are as follows:

-Mexico…164,920
-China…receiving 64,238
-Philippines…60,029
-India…57,304

In Feb. 2009, the financial institution Merrill Lynch announced that the nation’s actual unemployment rate had reached 13.9 percent. A year later, that number had risen to 17.3 percent. This figure represents Americans who have been laid off from full-time positions and are now working part-time, as well as those who have simply stopped looking for work, and workers whose unemployment benefits have run out.

The official unemployment figure given monthly by the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics is now listed around 10 percent, but represents only those Americans currently receiving unemployment checks, and is not truly indicative of the dire employment situation now facing the U.S.

In 1931, the second full year of the Great Depression, the average rate of unemployment was 16.3 percent, with U.S. unemployment peaking at 25 percent in 1933. We now sit in between those two disastrous figures, with an ever-worsening economy.

With U.S. unemployment now at depression levels, we simply can no longer tolerate not only illegal immigration, but any immigration which allows foreign nationals to take much-needed jobs from American citizens.

Why are we paying the salaries of elected representatives who now seem to represent everyone, but us?

http://www.examiner.com/x-35821-Immigration-Reform-Examiner~y2010m4d11-With-1-in-5-Americans-out-of-work-Obama-issues-over-a-million-green-cards
 
JEV

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You certainly don't expect the Kenyan to act differently. After all, he is here illegally himself. Has he helped out his half brother in the "hut" back in the mother landately? I heard Rush Limbaugh was going to help him out. Any truth to that?
 
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XeVfTEUtaAqJHTqq

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Hey! Us Green Card holders are "legitimate" immigrants. I jumped through all the hoops to get here and pay lots and lots of taxes.

Focus on the 1000 people coming across the Arizona border every day and their cousins coming across the other border states. Those guys aren't jumping through any hoops or paying taxes.
 
RobsanX

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Are these numbers more or less than previous years? Are we supposed to shut down legal immigration because of a recession?
 
Cityboy

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With 1 in 5 Americans out of work..........,

Is this true? Are we at a national unemployment rate of 20% ?
 
Melensdad

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Cityboy said:
With 1 in 5 Americans out of work..........,

Is this true? Are we at a national unemployment rate of 20% ?
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Depends on who you ask.

The official government unemployment rate is hovering at just under 10%.

The official data under-reports the actual rate for many reasons. Those people who no longer receive benefits, but are still unemployed are not counted. Those people who are 'under employed' are also not counted but those typically include people working a part-time job for minimum wage when they may have been high wage skilled labor or management employees. There are other factors.

Several groups estimate the total unemployed, most take into account the dramatically under-employed in their figures. The numbers that I see for the "true" unemployment number is usually between 17% and 20%.

I think to answer your question, you need to question what is the true number? Then you need to do a bit of research and decide what you think is actually a valid number.

I've looked into it. I'm comfortable with a 'true' number being between 15% and 17% at this point in time. You may be comfortable with a slightly higher or lower number. But in any case, the ranks of the unemployed who no longer get benefits should be counted by our government but those folks are not. Just adding those people in would apparently raise the number from about 9.8% to roughly 12%-to-14%.
 
Cowboy

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I,m not sure if its true for Kansas as a state but the Unemployment rate for the most part is between 5 & 6 % .


Theres tons of jobs around here , Just most folks are layed off aircraft workers used to making big money & they wont except lower pay & keep getting extensions on their unemployment which dont make sense to me , Even though they are so over extended & deep in debt . :hammer:

Thats bringing in new people from elsewhere that are more then happy to except 10 or 15 bucks an hour to do the same jobs as well as other jobs . The construction & housing market is in decent shape as well compared to most places because of it . :biggrin:
 
Melensdad

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Just a follow up on the question of the actual rate:

From POLLSTER.com, an analysis of the 16.8 versus the 'official' 9.7 rate:
http://www.pollster.com/blogs/about_true_unemployment.php

From the RJ & Makay financial analysis website: is 20% the actual rate:
http://www.rjandmakay.com/RJ-Makay-Articles/Twenty-percent-in-2010

CNN's website suggests that 18.5% is the true unemployment rate:
http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-410190

New York Post claims the real rate is closer to 22%:
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/how_nation_true_jobless_rate_is_N4E6MjtfhnMcCi537pucaJ

Washington Post editorializes the rate is about 17%
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2010/04/the_economy_of_the_2010_electi.html

CNBC suggests the real unemployment rate is 17.5%
http://www.cnbc.com/id/34040009/The_Real_Jobless_Rate_17_5_Of_Workers_Are_Unemployed
 
C

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Aw hell how can they know the percentage .... they don't know how many people live here cause people won't fill out their censes form.
 
Melensdad

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Chet, good question. Some of the studies look at payroll numbers, some look at tax return data, some look at hiring number, layoff numbers, etc. All look at multiple sources to come up with their rates.

But take the information above and simply average it and that might be a realistic way of getting a possible grasp on a real number. The high were 20% and 22% while the low was 16.8% the others were roughly 17% and 18.5% so just making some assumptions that each of them uses somewhat valid data, and each has a reasonable level of accuracy, taking an average of roughly 17% to 18% as the REAL or TRUE unemployment number is probably going to be defendable in a debate.
 
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