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New Romney Ad attacking Obamacare- cda

cdajen

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STORY LINK http://www.mail.com/scitech/health/1516888-adwatch-romney-ad-criticizes-obamacare.html

TITLE: "Nothing's Free"
LENGTH: 30 Seconds
AIRING: The Mitt Romney campaign would not disclose where the ad is airing.
KEY IMAGES: "Some think Obamacare is the same as free health care, but nothing is free," a male narrator says as a graphic of two pills forming an "equals" sign between the words "Obamacare" and "Free Health Care" fills the screen.
"Obama is raiding $716 billion from Medicare, changing the program forever, taxing wheelchairs and pacemakers, raising taxes on families making less than $120,000," a narrator says as a shot of an empty wheelchair and an aerial view of a suburban neighborhood appear on the screen.
"Free health care comes at a very high price," says the narrator. "The Romney-Ryan plan will restore Medicare funding and protect and strengthen the program for the next generation."
ANALYSIS: The ad oversimplifies President Barack Obama's health care plan and Medicare, two big government programs that have emerged as key issues in the presidential race. Medicare in particular, a popular program serving nearly 50 million seniors and disabled people, has become a flashpoint since Romney named Paul Ryan, a Wisconsin congressman and chairman of the House Budget Committee, as his running mate.
The ad first asserts that "some" people think Obamacare is the same as free care, but doesn't bother to say who that might be.
It then criticizes Obama for "raiding" money from Medicare to pay for the new expansion of health care coverage that is his signature achievement.
Both Romney and Obama are seeking to stoke fears among older voters about each other's proposed Medicare changes, each charging the other would gut the program.
In swing states that have large elderly populations such as Florida, Iowa and Pennsylvania, Medicare could be a key issue this fall. Retirees have often resisted changing the program.
The GOP ticket has also targeted Obama's health care plan, which includes reductions in Medicare spending of $700 billion over 10 years. What Romney's ad doesn't mention is that those cuts come from payments to health care providers, not from benefits to seniors. The ad also fails to note that the budget plan Ryan wrote included the same cut.
In turn, the Obama campaign has hammered away at Ryan's plan to shift future retirees into a system dominated by private insurance plans.
Democrats and Republicans alike have taken advantage of peculiar federal accounting rules that, on paper, allow Medicare savings spent for another purpose to also be credited to the program's trust fund for inpatient care. Obama's health care law used Medicare cuts to pay for covering the uninsured. The Ryan budgets passed by the House kept those cuts and applied them to reducing the federal deficit.
The ad's claim that Obama's health care law taxes wheelchairs is questionable.
The tax actually applies to medical device makers, not consumers directly. It helps pay for the health care overhaul's expansion of health care coverage to 30 million Americans. The tax is aimed at U.S. sales of medical devices used chiefly by doctors and hospitals, such as pacemakers and CT scan machines. Exempted are consumer items like eyeglasses and kits for many blood tests that people can perform on themselves, as well as other medical devices yet to be specified.
The Obama administration says old-fashioned wheelchairs and the newer powered ones will also be exempt from the tax under proposed regulations being finalized by the IRS.
The ad's claim that Obama's plan raises taxes on families making less than $120,000 lacks important background.
Starting in 2014, Obama's law requires most Americans to carry health insurance either through an employer, a government program or by purchasing their own policy. There are exemptions for financial hardship, religious beliefs or membership in American Indian tribes.
The penalties will be collected by the Internal Revenue Service through tax returns, but the IRS will not have the authority to bring criminal charges or file liens against those who don't pay.
About 3 million of those who could be required to pay fines in 2016 will have incomes below $59,000 for individuals and $120,000 for families of four, according to Congressional Budget Office projections.
The penalties will be phased in starting in 2014. By 2016, those who must get insurance but don't will be fined $695 or 2.5 percent of their household income, whichever is greater.
 

FrancSevin

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Hell, team Obama over simplified the program completely. They didn't even read it. So Romney 's team conclussion that it is a pile of crap is nothing any different.

Except that they are right.

You see the differnce is that before the Congress rammed it through, nobody we elected (except perhaps Barak H Obama) had actualy read the thing.

Team Romney has had over two years to read the bill, and much of the 15,000 added regulations proglemated since it's enactment by "consolidation"*


The Tax estamats are true but often hidden BTW. For instance, if your employer pays the fine, he is payin a Tax (per Chief Justice Roberts) in your name.

Under Obamacare, family farmers must have insurance, small family operated busineses must also have it. That's a cash strike on the middle class. Not the poor, not the rich.
Obamacare falls on the middle class, the rich simply pass it thru to their customers. Walmart wil add it to the cost of merchandise and the Lohr family will still have their wealth, untouched. Warren Buffet will still pay a lower tax rate than his secretary and most likely still get better medical care too.




*Forthe record, the bill was never actually approved by Congressional vote.
 
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Kane

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*Forthe record, the bill was never actually approved by Congressional vote.
And for the record, the bill was not written by anyone in Congress. It was written by left wing think tank ApolloGroup, aimed not so much on health care, but on income redistribution. It was written, whether intentionally or not, to be enforced (controlled) by the IRS ... to be unintelligible but O so enforceable.
 

grizzer

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Obamacare does not create 1 new doctor, but it DOES create 20,000 new IRS agents.

The Doc fix is above, beyond, and separate from Obamacare costs.

So much for 30,000,000 new patients.

The Dem politicians thrown out in 2010 don't worry as they qualify for lifetime federal healthcare...
 

SShepherd

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another little tidbit about barrycare

http://news.investors.com/article/5...ctively-bar-new-physician-owned-hospitals.htm

There are currently 60 to 65 physician-owned hospitals under construction. Those that aren't finished and don't have a Medicare provider number by Aug. 1 (Dec. 31 if the reconciliation bill passes) will probably never open their doors. Without a provider number, such hospitals can't treat Medicare patients, which are usually essential to financial survival.
 

mak2

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There are 3 IOH's already in Indy, we dont need another one, they aint gas stations. What is really needed in this town are primary care porvidors and clinics, but they are not as high profit as ortho and cardiac.
another little tidbit about barrycare

http://news.investors.com/article/5...ctively-bar-new-physician-owned-hospitals.htm

There are currently 60 to 65 physician-owned hospitals under construction. Those that aren't finished and don't have a Medicare provider number by Aug. 1 (Dec. 31 if the reconciliation bill passes) will probably never open their doors. Without a provider number, such hospitals can't treat Medicare patients, which are usually essential to financial survival.
 

SShepherd

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There are 3 IOH's already in Indy, we dont need another one, they aint gas stations. What is really needed in this town are primary care porvidors and clinics, but they are not as high profit as ortho and cardiac.
why not ? too much competition for the huge hospitols ?
 

jimbo

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Obamacare does not create 1 new doctor, but it DOES create 20,000 new IRS agents.

The Doc fix is above, beyond, and separate from Obamacare costs.

So much for 30,000,000 new patients.

The Dem politicians thrown out in 2010 don't worry as they qualify for lifetime federal healthcare...
That 30 million figure is also somewhat questionable. I think the original number of uninsured was something like 12 million. The only way to get to 30 million is to include the illegals Something Barry said he would not do. Solution, lets make them all legal. Problem solved.
 

FrancSevin

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That 30 million figure is also somewhat questionable. I think the original number of uninsured was something like 12 million. The only way to get to 30 million is to include the illegals Something Barry said he would not do. Solution, lets make them all legal. Problem solved.

12 millionSo, for what amounts to four percent of our nation's population we trashed the whole medical system? Only a liberal would believe that is a good idea.

And only progressives would understand what it really means. Crash the system upon itself and then control it. But for 4 %?, No even graduating proles of our current public school system can do that math and see the negative.
 

Kane

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As a side note, when dear departed miss jen started a thread it included the closing code - cda. Color me ignorant, but WTF does the cda stand for?
 

tiredretired

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As a side note, when dear departed miss jen started a thread it included the closing code - cda. Color me ignorant, but WTF does the cda stand for?

I think it was her way of ID'ing her threads. The first 3 letters of her username. Dave touched upon this in another thread. Not sure of the signifigance of those 3 letters. I'm confused enough.
 

Danang Sailor

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I think it was her way of ID'ing her threads. The first 3 letters of her username. Dave touched upon this in another thread. Not sure of the signifigance of those 3 letters. I'm confused enough.

She said it was something she used in another forum ... short for her location at that time: Coeur D'Alene, Idaho.

 
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