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Obama makes demands of Israel, the world thinks he's an idiot

Melensdad

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Oy :pat:

How unrealistic is this man, the supposed leader of the free world?

Does he really think that HAMAS will give up all their weapons?

President Barack Obama phoned Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu late Sunday, demanding that he agree to an immediate ceasefire “that ends hostilities now and leads to a permanent cessation of hostilities, based on the November 2012 ceasefire agreement.”

Israel has, however, unilaterally agreed to over five ceasefires so far, all of which Hamas has either outright rejected or violated in early stages. It remains unclear how Israel is supposed to comply with Obama’s demands when, to no fault of the Jewish state, Hamas has ignored its previous ceasefire efforts on multiple occasions.

Israeli Deputy Foreign Minister Tzachi Hanegbi said, “With all due respect to President Obama, if Hamas doesn’t halt its fire, Israel won’t be able to.”

In his phone call with Netanyahu, Obama called for the complete “disarmament of terrorist groups and the demilitarization of Gaza,” which has been interpreted as a huge victory for Israel’s moral authority.

Likud Knesset (Parliament) member Danny Danon, who was recently fired as deputy defense minister, said sarcastically of Obama’s demands, “We need a ceasefire from Obama and the American Administration. Just like the U.S. is fighting the Taliban with determination, we must continue fighting Hamas and destroying its tunnel infrastructure.”

The Israeli security cabinet agreed to a 24-hour extension of the self-declared one-sided ceasefire in Gaza. Hamas had also agreed to a humanitarian ceasefire, but then violated the truce Saturday night. Hamas also rejected an extension of the truce, even as Israel said it would continue to hold up its end of the bargain. A Hamas official said of the truce extension proposal, “Any Humanitarian ceasefire that does not include the pullout of [IDF Troops] from the Gaza Strip and does not allow Gaza residents to return to their homes and to care for their wounded is not acceptable.”
 

FrancSevin

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Is this the same President who bought a cheap stop switch out of a Grainger catalog and pushed it to reset our relations with Russia?

Of course he looks stupid. Blissfully naïve, Fearless Fosdick always does.
 

Danang Sailor

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Is this the same President who bought a cheap stop switch out of a Grainger catalog and pushed it to reset our relations with Russia?

:yum::yum::yum:

Of course he looks stupid. Blissfully naïve, Fearless Fosdick always does.

And we still have to survive another two and a half years with this foreign policy cretin and his minions Hair-plugs and
Hanoi John. God help the Republic! :sad::unsure:

 

Melensdad

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And then there is this story. Now Obama's chief international man, Boy Blunder, steps hip deep in pig shit with BOTH sizes of the Gaza/Israel controversy!

From the liberal Washington Post comes this critical hit piece on Kerry, saying he was just following orders from his King.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...3fbfd2-1686-11e4-9349-84d4a85be981_story.html

Secretary of State John Kerry has made a significant mistake in how he’s pursuing a Gaza cease-fire — and it’s not surprising that he has upset both the Israelis and some moderate Palestinians.

Kerry’s error has been to put so much emphasis on achieving a quick halt to the bloodshed that he has solidified the role of Hamas, the intractable, unpopular Islamist group that leads Gaza, along with the two hard-line Islamist nations that are its key supporters, Qatar and Turkey. In the process, he has undercut not simply the Israelis but also the Egyptians and the Fatah movement that runs the Palestinian Authority, all of which want to see an end to Hamas rule in Gaza.

A wiser course, which Kerry rejected in his hunt for a quick diplomatic solution, would have been to negotiate the cease-fire through the Palestinian Authority, as part of its future role as the government of Gaza. Hamas agreed last April to bring the authority back to Gaza as part of a unity agreement with Fatah that was brokered by Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas.
 

Andrei

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We created Israel and is only Natural for us to expect them to act civilized.
World holds Americans responsible for every crime Israel commits against humanity.
 

bczoom

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We created Israel? Who's we? The USA? That's not the way I remember it.

I thought it was through the League of Nations under the British Mandate for Palestine and when that expired I thought it was created by some combination of the United Nations and the World Zionist Organization.
 

Andrei

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1. We created Israel?
2. Who's we?
3. The USA?
4. That's not the way I remember it.
5. I thought it was through the League of Nations under the British Mandate for Palestine and when that expired I thought it was created by some combination of the United Nations and the World Zionist Organization.
1. Yes.
2. You and me buddy.
3. Yes.
4. First you have to learn something to be able to remember it.
5. That was your thinking only. Nice polish job.
 

Andrei

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more opinion or do you have proof
My opinions are based on facts and observations.
Read a bit outside of the indoctrination media you are exposed to.
Listen to people that think outside your controlled sphere.
Most people in the World hold Americans responsible for what is done in Palestine.
 

tiredretired

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Just like a high stakes poker game........... Until someone calls his bluff, he's running the table. BTW, he's playing with your money.
 

bczoom

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We created Israel?
Who's we?
The USA?
That's not the way I remember it.

I thought it was through the League of Nations under the British Mandate for Palestine and when that expired I thought it was created by some combination of the United Nations and the World Zionist Organization.

1. Yes.
2. You and me buddy.
3. Yes.
4. First you have to learn something to be able to remember it.
5. That was your thinking only. Nice polish job.

Hmmm. I didn't know that.
1-2. I thought you said in your profile you came from a foreign country to the USA. What year was that? What did you have to do with the creation of Israel?
2. I wasn't even born yet but I'll take as much credit as I do for slavery or winning WWII.
3-5. History of Israel. Here's some references backing up my understanding. Can you provide any evidence to back up your understanding of their creation?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Israel
http://history-of-israel.org/
http://history-of-israel.org/history/chronological_presentation31.php
http://www.historyofnations.net/asia/israel.html
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/1251799/history-of-Israel

There's tons out there. Even when I do find references to the USA it's talking about how much Truman wanted to stay away from the whole thing.
http://hugequestions.com/Eric/HistoryOfIsraelAndTheUSA.html
 

Andrei

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Just like a high stakes poker game........... Until someone calls his bluff, he's running the table. BTW, he's playing with your money.
Partially agree.
Best poker players have some skills.
My name is not on the money.
Money belongs to the government and that is why they are FIAT money.
It is just a government tool to keep masses working and obedient.
 

waybomb

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I never cared much what anybody thought about me.

And I certainly don't give a flying phuk what some other weazle appeaser European coward country's citizens think about us either, especially after hundreds of thousands of our young men died in their attempts to save your sorry ass from Hitler.

Screw what anybody else has to say.
 

Andrei

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Hmmm. I didn't know that.
1-2. I thought you said in your profile you came from a foreign country to the USA. What year was that? What did you have to do with the creation of Israel?
2. I wasn't even born yet but I'll take as much credit as I do for slavery or winning WWII.
3-5. History of Israel. Here's some references backing up my understanding. Can you provide any evidence to back up your understanding of their creation?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Israel
http://history-of-israel.org/
http://history-of-israel.org/history/chronological_presentation31.php
http://www.historyofnations.net/asia/israel.html
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/1251799/history-of-Israel

There's tons out there. Even when I do find references to the USA it's talking about how much Truman wanted to stay away from the whole thing.
http://hugequestions.com/Eric/HistoryOfIsraelAndTheUSA.html
1-2. 1983. My taxes feeds them and arms them.
2. Not to many people agree but by Natural Law collective guilt is reality. If one coyote kills my chickens 2 nights ago and today I see 3 coyotes within the shot range I will try to kill them in revenge for my chickens.
3. Nice official version that is somehow close to reality. But ....... most people in Israel at this time are not genetically jews. Or as much as Sammy Davis Jr. was.
 

Andrei

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That does not mean they are right. :bonk:
Now depending how you define "right".
Philosophically the majority opinion define what is write or wrong.
EX. Is killing right?
Most people will jump and say NO.
But we would starve if we do not kill.
Education?
 

Andrei

Banned
I never cared much what anybody thought about me.

And I certainly don't give a flying phuk what some other weazle appeaser European coward country's citizens think about us either, especially after hundreds of thousands of our young men died in their attempts to save your sorry ass from Hitler.

Screw what anybody else has to say.
That is a honest way to put it.
Ignorant but honest.
 

Kane

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We created Israel and is only Natural for us to expect them to act civilized.
World holds Americans responsible for every crime Israel commits against humanity.
Tell us more, Andrei, about Israel's crimes against humanity.
 

bczoom

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1-2. 1983. My taxes feeds them and arms them.
2. Not to many people agree but by Natural Law collective guilt is reality. If one coyote kills my chickens 2 nights ago and today I see 3 coyotes within the shot range I will try to kill them in revenge for my chickens.
3. Nice official version that is somehow close to reality. But ....... most people in Israel at this time are not genetically jews. Or as much as Sammy Davis Jr. was.
Huh? Those are some serious non-answers right there.

You didn't back up one single claim/statement you said about the creation of Israel.

You're now saying being Jewish is genetic? :wow:
 

Dargo

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1-2. 1983. My taxes feeds them and arms them.

Hamas? Yes, as a matter of fact, they do. They apparently help them purchase weapons used for terrorism as well as illegal tunnels to evade sanctions placed upon their government that is directly involved in terrorism.

I just finished having lunch with a gentleman who has dual US and Israel citizenship. He has been in the US for about 23 years but about half of his family still lives in Israel. He is absolutely infuriated that part of his tax dollars go to Hamas and are used to try to kill his immediate family members. He just joined a class action law suit against several US "news" outlets because they clearly have a pro-Hamas and anti-Israel agenda. It really is terrible.
 

Dargo

Like a bad penny...
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Huh? Those are some serious non-answers right there.

You didn't back up one single claim/statement you said about the creation of Israel.

You're now saying being Jewish is genetic? :wow:

C'mon BC, you know "Natural Law" explains everything and supersedes any actual facts!
 

Danang Sailor

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That "Natural Law" is some really potent weed.

Definition: Natural Law -- The personal opinion of one person dressed up in pseudo-Darwinian clothing to give the appearance
of legitimacy.

Any questions? No? Class dismissed.

 

Big Dog

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My opinions are based on facts and observations.
Read a bit outside of the indoctrination media you are exposed to.
Listen to people that think outside your controlled sphere.
Most people in the World hold Americans responsible for what is done in Palestine.


It appears your facts are rhetoric ......... I don't listen to loons!
 

Kane

New member
Is this part of the topic?
Extrajudicial killings.
Are Israeli "crimes against humanity" part of the topic? No, not until you made it the topic.

But which extrajudicial killings are you referring to? The extrajudicial collateral killing of Gazan civilians Hamas uses as human shields? The extrajudicial civilian deaths at UN schools that Hamas uses as rocket launch sites and depots? The extrajudicial killing of civilians living over Hamas' cross-border tunnels?

Are you referring to those extrajudicial killings? Or are you just spouting the usual anti-Israeli rhetoric so common among our lapdog MSM, still so loyal to your anti-Semite president?
 

SShepherd

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this is why there will be no peace [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7WAoczRV_k&feature=share"]Hamas Sermon from the Gaza Strip: Our Doctrine Entails Exterminating the Jews - YouTube[/ame]
 

tiredretired

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this is why there will be no peace

Exactly. While I feel sorry for the innocents that get killed, maimed or wounded in any war, it is a fact of life. War is hell, yet Hamas and the rest of those rag head murderers over there have brought all this upon themselves.

Hamas and rest of those scum bags would kill every Israeli baby in their cribs if given the chance. Never again.
 

jimbo

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Huh? Those are some serious non-answers right there.

You didn't back up one single claim/statement you said about the creation of Israel.

You're now saying being Jewish is genetic? :wow:

To my knowledge and memory, andrei has not backed a single statement in any post. Why would this be any different?
 
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