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Best place to buy replacement track belting?
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I saved this link from some other post.
here in Maine. When the time comes.. no shipping for me!
http://www.conveyor-belts-belting.com
here in Maine. When the time comes.. no shipping for me!
http://www.conveyor-belts-belting.com
Looking for 3 ply, 600 TS belting ( good year)
Currently using 2 ply 220 TS belting. Not sure who makes it but it's pretty weak.
My dimensions are 5" wide with 2 holes on 3" centers across the belt and 4" pitch (hole spacing running the length of the belt). I have 73 grousers per side but need to measure or calculate an overall length still. I'm guessing about 25' each.
Currently using 2 ply 220 TS belting. Not sure who makes it but it's pretty weak.
My dimensions are 5" wide with 2 holes on 3" centers across the belt and 4" pitch (hole spacing running the length of the belt). I have 73 grousers per side but need to measure or calculate an overall length still. I'm guessing about 25' each.
unless you just want it pretty you only need to replace the center belts those are the ones that do all the work. the out side ones are just for floatation. my Thiokol contact told me the ski slopes used to get 3 or 4 inner belt changes to one outer belt change. I believe the belts that came with my 2100 came from fall line the belts were good quality and properly punched. I made a template so I could punch the next set of belts I do for it.
There are several belting suppliers in Seattle, and a couple more in Tacoma. They will usually punch them for you. So far all the belting / Tracks, that I have purchased from the Conveyor suppliers have been from one half, to one eight of the price and the belting was as good or better than the factory stuff.
Do NOT use an old belt as a template to punch out a new belt. The old one is streched and the irregular or incorrect spacing will lead to high sprocket wear and detracking.
Most of the Belting suppliers are selling long conveyors, often miles long, and have Scraps, or "Rems" (remenants), that are great for a track vehicle that only needs 20 foot of belting. They are more than glad to sell the shorty pieces that they would normally be throwing out.
Do NOT use an old belt as a template to punch out a new belt. The old one is streched and the irregular or incorrect spacing will lead to high sprocket wear and detracking.
Most of the Belting suppliers are selling long conveyors, often miles long, and have Scraps, or "Rems" (remenants), that are great for a track vehicle that only needs 20 foot of belting. They are more than glad to sell the shorty pieces that they would normally be throwing out.
if you want the jig I made up off my new belts I could arrange that
I'll give some local suppliers a call.
So far, I've been quoted $475 per strip for three ply and 225 shipping. Punched and ready to go.... ouch!
He also offered a 2ply belt for $325 each plus 225 shipping
Another said they could do 3 ply for 385 each punched plus shipping
Could you post a picture and dimensions of your jig? I could make one up and punch my own if I find a local supplier in Seattle for belts.
So far, I've been quoted $475 per strip for three ply and 225 shipping. Punched and ready to go.... ouch!
He also offered a 2ply belt for $325 each plus 225 shipping
Another said they could do 3 ply for 385 each punched plus shipping
Could you post a picture and dimensions of your jig? I could make one up and punch my own if I find a local supplier in Seattle for belts.
A few years ago I did some prliminary research on track belting. From what I found it is definitely NOT as simple as getting some generic "conveyor belting"; at least not if you want to do it properly.
Belting is designed to meet certain criteria such as the temperature range it will be oprated in, as well as the minimum bend radius. They also specify the numper of plys and the thickness of the top and bottom covers as well as the overall thickness. (That's what comes to mind, but there was a bunch of information.)
There have been a few threads on the forum about track belting and I would encourage you to look those over...
Belting is designed to meet certain criteria such as the temperature range it will be oprated in, as well as the minimum bend radius. They also specify the numper of plys and the thickness of the top and bottom covers as well as the overall thickness. (That's what comes to mind, but there was a bunch of information.)
There have been a few threads on the forum about track belting and I would encourage you to look those over...
Mine is splice connected using a 1/4" bolt through the connectors.
I'll try and post some pictures tonight and you guy's can get a better idea of what I'm dealing with. I need to measure my drive sprocket too. One of the distributors I spoke with said that the 3 ply belt doesn't like anything under about 10" diameter at the base of the teeth. On smaller sprockets he was actually thinking that 2 ply may be better. He also said he sells lots of 3 ply for snowcats. I hope to have his price today and will share it with you guys.
I'll try and post some pictures tonight and you guy's can get a better idea of what I'm dealing with. I need to measure my drive sprocket too. One of the distributors I spoke with said that the 3 ply belt doesn't like anything under about 10" diameter at the base of the teeth. On smaller sprockets he was actually thinking that 2 ply may be better. He also said he sells lots of 3 ply for snowcats. I hope to have his price today and will share it with you guys.
I've used Flexco 375 Series Bolt Hinged Fasteners to connect belt ends (or to splice in a repair section of belt).
(I think that's pretty much what everyone uses.)
(I think that's pretty much what everyone uses.)
I'm betting his lacing connectors are 5/16 as that is what mine are and lacing is the only way to go on the wider tracks the sprockets are 12 to 14 inches and are well over 10 inches so 3 ply should work fine. if you need some I have some NOS. sprockets on the shelf
Here's a few pics of my worn out tracks to look at while I am waiting for bids on new belts. Looks like bolts, washers and nuts will run $210 plus shipping. I will need to weld repair 4 grousers . I haven't taken off the tracks yet so my overall length measurement may be off a couple inches. Is there a standard length I should order? My tracks have 71 grouser bars each. It appears that the sliding front axle has quite a bit of adjustment.
Here's a link to my thread on belt suppliers from last year.
I ended up buying belts from Mountain Services Group and was happy with the process and product -- they were good people to work with. They ran a "summer maintenance sale" or some such last spring and I was able to shave a little off the price. I don't know for sure, but would expect them to do the same this year.
I purchased the belts pre-drilled. I know that you can save a couple bucks by drilling them yourself, but I didn't want to mess with jigs, spend the time, or run the risk that I'd bobble it somehow.
I haven't actually rebuilt my tracks yet. I currently have all the necessary parts, but I'm usually better at preparing for projects than actually executing them.
Ron
I ended up buying belts from Mountain Services Group and was happy with the process and product -- they were good people to work with. They ran a "summer maintenance sale" or some such last spring and I was able to shave a little off the price. I don't know for sure, but would expect them to do the same this year.
I purchased the belts pre-drilled. I know that you can save a couple bucks by drilling them yourself, but I didn't want to mess with jigs, spend the time, or run the risk that I'd bobble it somehow.
I haven't actually rebuilt my tracks yet. I currently have all the necessary parts, but I'm usually better at preparing for projects than actually executing them.
Ron
Hi Go on line to Goodyear conveyor belting then go to above ground belting and see which one you want and let me know and i will price them for you and Like i said my dealer said pathfinder is stronger than plylon plus and can be used on smaller sprockets The specs are on line . Your belts are connected with Flexco Bolt Hinged go to Flexco and you will see them. They come in steel and stainless and are not cheap Where do you live and area code ? I need to know to give you a shipping cost.
Shipping would be to Anacortes, Washington 98221
I would be curious on a price for both pathfinder and pylon plus. The spec sheets down really mention anything about cold weather application. They do talk about minimum pulley diameters on the spec sheets though and depending on percent of load, even 14" is getting down there.
Which Goodyear product are the track folks selling? My guess is that either Pylon plus or pathfinder would work equally well.
My thoughts are low temps, UV resistant, 12" - 14" bend radius, bolted hinges, low stretch and rock resistant.
If you recently bought Goodyear belting for your tracks, which line they sell you?
I would be curious on a price for both pathfinder and pylon plus. The spec sheets down really mention anything about cold weather application. They do talk about minimum pulley diameters on the spec sheets though and depending on percent of load, even 14" is getting down there.
Which Goodyear product are the track folks selling? My guess is that either Pylon plus or pathfinder would work equally well.
My thoughts are low temps, UV resistant, 12" - 14" bend radius, bolted hinges, low stretch and rock resistant.
If you recently bought Goodyear belting for your tracks, which line they sell you?
I have 2 Bombardier Bombi's The guy sold me plylon plus 375 which is over kill for a bombi I had to shave off the rubber on the over lap to stop the thumping when the joint went around the sprocket .
When I talked to him on the phone and placed the order i didn't know to much about belting at the time and he didn't know what I was putting it on . For the second machine I went down there and saw him we went through and he showed me all the different types of belting . And he suggested
Pathfinder 400 2 for my machine . My sprockets are 9" The plylon plus 375 7/16 thick works fine other than the lap . Even in -40 and has about 3/16 of rubber for rock protection . The pricing on Pathfinder and plylon plus are almost the same
When I talked to him on the phone and placed the order i didn't know to much about belting at the time and he didn't know what I was putting it on . For the second machine I went down there and saw him we went through and he showed me all the different types of belting . And he suggested
Pathfinder 400 2 for my machine . My sprockets are 9" The plylon plus 375 7/16 thick works fine other than the lap . Even in -40 and has about 3/16 of rubber for rock protection . The pricing on Pathfinder and plylon plus are almost the same
I received a quote today from International Belt and we're getting much closer to finding an affordable solution.
They quoted 8 strips of 3 ply Goodyear Plylon Plus 23' 5 1/2" long for $255.90 each with holes punched or $190.90 not punched.
This price includes new Flexco connectors on each strip.
This material is the nylon/polyester weave with a 3/16" top coat and a 1/16" bottom coat for flexibility and durabilty. Overall thickness is 7/16" and its 330 piw rated.
He doesn't have the pathfinder belting in stock but prefers the Plylon anyway.
I also ordered a full set of 5/16" grade 8 yellow bolts, nuts and double washers from Fastenal for $350.
I'm making a hole punch template on the laser cutting table at work that should do the trick.
Let the fun begin!
They quoted 8 strips of 3 ply Goodyear Plylon Plus 23' 5 1/2" long for $255.90 each with holes punched or $190.90 not punched.
This price includes new Flexco connectors on each strip.
This material is the nylon/polyester weave with a 3/16" top coat and a 1/16" bottom coat for flexibility and durabilty. Overall thickness is 7/16" and its 330 piw rated.
He doesn't have the pathfinder belting in stock but prefers the Plylon anyway.
I also ordered a full set of 5/16" grade 8 yellow bolts, nuts and double washers from Fastenal for $350.
I'm making a hole punch template on the laser cutting table at work that should do the trick.
Let the fun begin!
I think I talked to you last January at the Snowcat jamboree. I got the belts for my 1402 IMP at Hoffmeyer in Seattle. http://www.hoffmeyerco.com/ I got 4 belts, 3/8 thick X 8 inches wide and 18 - 1/2 feet long 2 ply. You will need something thicker and longer with more plys. They have a lot of samples to choose from. The guy at the Seattle office was very helpful. Snowcat tracks are relatively short and narrow as conveyor material goes so they can usually make it out of leftover scraps. Mine were only a couple hundred bucks for 4 belts and were shipped from Portland fairly inexpensively. I did the drilling and lacing myself. Hoffmeyer has the required rotary punch which worked really well in a cordless drill for about $15. The most expensive part of the job was the new hardware. I got all of that at Tacoma Screw.
Good luck!
Good luck!
Here's a quote that I received from Capital Rubber:
"We thank you for your inquiry and quote as follows:
Plyon Plus with Flexco Fasteners or equal
8 pcs. 5” Wide X 23 ft. 5-1/2” Long
Alternate:
2-ply 220 3/16 X 1/16 with #375 Bolt Hinge Fasteners $ 178.78 ea.
3-ply 330 3/16 X 1/16 with #375 Bolt Hinge Fasteners $ 193.36 ea.
Lead time 7-10 days
Thank you
Best regards,
Barbara Feldman
Capital Rubber Corp
(630) 595-6644
(630) 595-1411 (Fax)
www.capitalrubbercorp.com
and here is the quote I received from Hoffmeyer in Seattle:
"8 ea 5" Wide X 23'-5-1/2" Long 3/330 3/16" X 1/16" 122.50 each or
$980.00 total punched with 142 holes per belt recessed 1" from edge"
"We thank you for your inquiry and quote as follows:
Plyon Plus with Flexco Fasteners or equal
8 pcs. 5” Wide X 23 ft. 5-1/2” Long
Alternate:
2-ply 220 3/16 X 1/16 with #375 Bolt Hinge Fasteners $ 178.78 ea.
3-ply 330 3/16 X 1/16 with #375 Bolt Hinge Fasteners $ 193.36 ea.
Lead time 7-10 days
Thank you
Best regards,
Barbara Feldman
Capital Rubber Corp
(630) 595-6644
(630) 595-1411 (Fax)
www.capitalrubbercorp.com
and here is the quote I received from Hoffmeyer in Seattle:
"8 ea 5" Wide X 23'-5-1/2" Long 3/330 3/16" X 1/16" 122.50 each or
$980.00 total punched with 142 holes per belt recessed 1" from edge"
