Well it seems a bit silly to ban someone who stopped posting, but they can do what they want. I've not lowered myself to the level of the troublemakers who caused me to leave and the moderators can claim to be fair but I suggest they are protecting the troublemakers (or at least some of the moderators do), and I've even admitted that every post of mine that they deleted (except for 1 deleted by MossRoad) was a legitimate deletion. And the one I did have a problem with I handled via PM between myself and Moss. I still think he was totally wrong, in fact I think he simply totally misunderstood my post, and I think that because he posted after my post and his post had nothing to do with what I wrote. But I suppose a simple misunderstanding is bound to happen, heck I had 6000 posts over there, some were not appropriate, most were, and some were bound to be misunderstood by someone. But I didn't lash out at him or anyone else, I waited a few days, wrote him a letter and got it out of my system. I think I did that many times with other folks too. I only wish I would have saved the PMs that I got from several other TBN members that were forwarded to me but were originally written by "shoppintractors" where he was trying to turn people against me, against Neil Messick, Dargo, and one or two others. My habit was to read them and then delete them. That was unfortunate. I think at the very end I had a partial one that I received that I forwarded on to moderators, but it was not very damning. The shame is that some really good guys were lost, guys like BigAl, Indydirtfarmer, 5030, and many others who were helpful, non-confrontational, and good friends. I still email several of them, but I think they got burned out by the attacks.