Bamby
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This movie is instructive.
It is real. Yes, this really happened, here, in America - and not that long ago.
The year was 1946. We had just won WWII. And in the middle of America, a corrupt local government tried to steal an election. It was not the first election they had stolen.
But this was to be the last election they would steal.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=99&v=6c-Dsg4X4Dk
This was when men were men. When they understood that election integrity was important enough that they might have to go to war -- literally -- with men in their own nation.
When does election integrity start to mean something. When does the Rule of Law mean something?
Rick Scott sat back and allowed Broward's Brenda Snipes to violate Florida law, including alleged felony violations, in previous elections. This time ballots were moved well after the election in violation of chain-of-custody laws -- opening the question as to whether legitimate ballots were swapped with hand-filled out ones to rig the outcome.
Tampering with elections never matters unless an election is very close. When there's a wide differential in vote the amount of tampering required to swing the outcome is so large that it would be very hard, without widespread coordination between different groups in different counties, to swing the outcome.
This was a close election and one race has already been swung. Two more remain open but within the margin of tampering in a large county like Broward.
Were our state governed under the Rule of Law, especially after 2000 when the same crap went on, this woman would have been removed from her post under authority the governor has - long ago. She was not. Now Rick Scott stands to lose a race it appears he should have won due to his own refusal to enforce the Rule of Law, just as he has refused with medical monopolists over his term as Governor which puts him in charge of State Law Enforcement, just as Trump is in charge of the DOJ.
So should Scott lose due to corruption he fomented and approved of, he deserves it.
However the State's residents not only do not deserve it they shouldn't tolerate it.
That doesn't mean we need to storm the elections offices in Broward by dark of night.
But it does mean that if the State of Florida wants to claim to give a crap about the Rule of Law State Law enforcement must immediately act to arrest all involved in illegal movement of ballots, to disqualify all contaminated or invalid ballots, including those the SOE's office caused to be contaminated that cannot be separated and that all "found" ballots that were "found" post the Florida-mandated cut-off times and dates must be disregarded.
In addition if, as has been reported, Broward has more registered than elegible voters then the entire county must be considered for being excluded from results on that basis since it is virtually impossible to decontaminate the results of an election after the fact in in such a circumstance. If there is a way to decontaminate the results after the fact that is of course preferable -- but a contaminated result in a close race that changes the outcome cannot be tolerated.
If this is not done right now, and this lawless behavior is allowed to stand then no election held in this state can be considered legitimate and no alleged legislative or enforcement action taken by any alleged winner in this state is legitimate either.
You ought to think long and hard about the implications of silent acceptance of this crap as they are grave indeed.
It is real. Yes, this really happened, here, in America - and not that long ago.
The year was 1946. We had just won WWII. And in the middle of America, a corrupt local government tried to steal an election. It was not the first election they had stolen.
But this was to be the last election they would steal.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=99&v=6c-Dsg4X4Dk
This was when men were men. When they understood that election integrity was important enough that they might have to go to war -- literally -- with men in their own nation.
When does election integrity start to mean something. When does the Rule of Law mean something?
Rick Scott sat back and allowed Broward's Brenda Snipes to violate Florida law, including alleged felony violations, in previous elections. This time ballots were moved well after the election in violation of chain-of-custody laws -- opening the question as to whether legitimate ballots were swapped with hand-filled out ones to rig the outcome.
Tampering with elections never matters unless an election is very close. When there's a wide differential in vote the amount of tampering required to swing the outcome is so large that it would be very hard, without widespread coordination between different groups in different counties, to swing the outcome.
This was a close election and one race has already been swung. Two more remain open but within the margin of tampering in a large county like Broward.
Were our state governed under the Rule of Law, especially after 2000 when the same crap went on, this woman would have been removed from her post under authority the governor has - long ago. She was not. Now Rick Scott stands to lose a race it appears he should have won due to his own refusal to enforce the Rule of Law, just as he has refused with medical monopolists over his term as Governor which puts him in charge of State Law Enforcement, just as Trump is in charge of the DOJ.
So should Scott lose due to corruption he fomented and approved of, he deserves it.
However the State's residents not only do not deserve it they shouldn't tolerate it.
That doesn't mean we need to storm the elections offices in Broward by dark of night.
But it does mean that if the State of Florida wants to claim to give a crap about the Rule of Law State Law enforcement must immediately act to arrest all involved in illegal movement of ballots, to disqualify all contaminated or invalid ballots, including those the SOE's office caused to be contaminated that cannot be separated and that all "found" ballots that were "found" post the Florida-mandated cut-off times and dates must be disregarded.
In addition if, as has been reported, Broward has more registered than elegible voters then the entire county must be considered for being excluded from results on that basis since it is virtually impossible to decontaminate the results of an election after the fact in in such a circumstance. If there is a way to decontaminate the results after the fact that is of course preferable -- but a contaminated result in a close race that changes the outcome cannot be tolerated.
If this is not done right now, and this lawless behavior is allowed to stand then no election held in this state can be considered legitimate and no alleged legislative or enforcement action taken by any alleged winner in this state is legitimate either.
You ought to think long and hard about the implications of silent acceptance of this crap as they are grave indeed.