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Cowboy

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I'm sure most of you know of Bob Lazar, but for those of you who don't, Bob is a guy who claims to have worked at S4(section 4) - a separate division of Area 51 - on reverse engineering alien technology and in particular, UFO's.
He claims to have seen 9 different craft and in his interviews provides some insight into the propulsion methods used.
Education - from wikipedia
Lazar claims to hold degrees from the California Institute of Technology and Massachusetts Institute of Technology. In 1993, the Los Angeles Times looked into his background and found there was no evidence to support those claims. Stanton Friedman was only able to verify that Lazar took electronics courses in the late 1970s at Pierce Junior College. His educational and professional background cannot be verified -- a fact he attributes to government deletion of records.
Scientific Research - from wikipedia
Lazar first jumped on the media map in 1982 in the Los Alamos Monitor. The article titled "LA MAN JOINS THE JET SET - AT 200 MILES AN HOUR" was about a jet car that Lazar had created and worked on for years with help from a NASA researcher. The car was built from a jet engine modified and placed on an existing car model. It is also important to note that the article noted Lazar as "a physicist at the Los Alamos Meson Physics Facility", as it is one media article that puts Robert on the map as a physicist.
In November 1989, Lazar appeared in a special interview with investigative reporter George Knapp on Las Vegas TV station KLAS to discuss his purported employment at S-4. In his interview with Knapp, Lazar said he first thought the saucers were secret terrestrial aircraft whose test flights must have been responsible for many UFO reports. Gradually, on closer examination and from having been shown multiple briefing documents, Lazar came to the conclusion that the discs were of extraterrestrial origin. In his filmed testimony Lazar explains how this impression first hit him after he boarded one craft being studied and examined its interior.
For the propulsion of the studied vehicles, Bob Lazar claims that the atomic Element 115 served as a nuclear fuel. Element 115 (nicknamed 'Ununpentium' (Uup)) reportedly provided an energy source which would produce anti-gravity effects under proton bombardment along with antimatter for energy production. As the intense strong nuclear force field of Element 115's nucleus would be properly amplified, the resulting large-scale gravitational effect would be a distortion of the surrounding space-time continuum that would, in effect, greatly shorten the distance and travel time to a charted destination.
Lazar also claims that he was given introductory briefings describing the historical involvement by extraterrestrial beings with this planet for the past 100 000 years. The beings originate from the Zeta Reticuli 1 & 2 star system and are therefore referred to as Zeta Reticulans, popularly called 'Greys'.
Bob Lazar - wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Lazar
Stanton Friedman - wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanton_Friedman
Here is a picture illustrating the basic operation of a UFO.

And here are some videos of Bob Lazar - interviews and such.
UFOs & Area 51: The Bob Lazar Video - Alien Technology

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJolFbj8nc4&feature=player_embedded"]UFOs & Area 51: The Bob Lazar Video - Alien Technology - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sl47icn1iEU&feature=player_embedded"]UFOs The Lazar Tape ... And Excerpts From The Government Bible - YouTube[/ame]
 

Cowboy

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Here is another very interesting night time video using a night vision camera .

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoR0izkByAI&feature=player_embedded"]Night Vision Triangle UFO - YouTube[/ame]
 

fogtender

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Tonight there was a show on called Worlds Strangest UFO Stories, I watched one episode tonight and set the record the series. Found they are on YouTube already. Pretty neat, there were a couple that seemed a bit far stretched, but others were pretty convincing! All were interesting to say the least!


[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUXD5ksEx_o&feature=youtube_gdata_player"]the worlds strangest ufo stories pt1 - YouTube[/ame]
 

Uncle Ed

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Lia,
Thank you for per say "stirring the pot" and getting people to think and ask questions.
If I may add some food for thought.

If I remember correctly, the bible talks of a war in the heavens, and that the losers were "cast out". If god is a loving god would it make since that he cast his "children" into the fire pit or banish them to someplace where they couldn't do any harm (at least not right away).

If he is powerful enough to "create man in our own image" then he could change the outcasts DNA and keep them from returning and then watch them to ensure that they change their war making ways,( it's bred out of them, or at least don't let them spread it beyond that planet).

For us to think that WE are the only intelligent life forms is .....insane!
There are billions of stars out there, if only 1 % have a planet capable of supporting life, then who's to say that their not more advanced than we are?

Add to the fact that they have been fired upon and haven't returned fire, speaks volumes in and of its self. Thank you for the video links.
Ed
 
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Cowboy

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Two more full episodes for those that have been following the Ancient Alien series on the history channel.

Season 3 episode 13.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4en28ZPK1c&feature=player_embedded"]Ancient Aliens - Aliens And The Secret Code [S03E13] - YouTube[/ame]

Season 3 episode 14.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5TsA4GV7uc&feature=player_embedded"]Ancient Aliens - Aliens And The Undead [S03E14] - YouTube[/ame]
 

fogtender

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This was a three part series that was about hangar 18 at the Wright Patterson AFB in Ohio. Was pretty interesting to watch!


[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0YDbnIm76c&feature=youtube_gdata_player"]Hangar 18 The UFO Warehouse [1of3] - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjJRX5tLttI&feature=youtube_gdata_player"]Hangar 18: The UFO Warehouse [2of3] - YouTube[/ame]


[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOa7IM9EWxE&feature=youtube_gdata_player"]Hangar 18: The UFO Warehouse [3of3] - YouTube[/ame]
 

pirate_girl

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I miss Lia.. on this board, I should say.
However, I have been keeping in contact with her via email.
She could add so much more to this thread, if'n she ever decides to come back.
 

fogtender

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I miss Lia.. on this board, I should say.
However, I have been keeping in contact with her via email.
She could add so much more to this thread, if'n she ever decides to come back.


Well tell Lia to take care of herself until she decides to return!
 

Cowboy

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For anyone that may be following this series
here are the last two episodes of Ancient Aliens for season 3. Season 4 will begin in Febuary next year from my understanding. I haven't been able to find the FULL episode 16 video, as it just aired last night. :wink:

You can go to the right side menu of you tube to find the other parts though.



Ancient Aliens - Aliens, Gods And Heroes [S03E15]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kNrbCbYULWk


Ancient Aliens and the Creation of Man S03E16 pt1
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8v7RhgjOOjU&feature=player_embedded"]Ancient Aliens and the Creation of Man S03E16 pt1 - YouTube[/ame]
 

fogtender

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Seems Lia started this thread at just about the right time. There seems to be a lot of shows on the air and information on the Internet over the last year than in years past. Almost like it is being upscaled for some reason!

Saw two shows last night that I only got to see partially, but the were about sightings all over the world verses just the US and Europe. If I can find the links, I will post them. Even excerpts from Cloumbus's diary to the new World and sightings he Logged.
 

FrancSevin

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I suspect Lia is onthe right side of logic here.
Even if you consider the happenstance of the unlikely, that a random event seldom witnessed to the point of being assumed as "unique" somehow caused the Darwinian progression that led from ammino acids in a primordeal soup to mankind. Mathematicaly, we simply cannot be the only Sapient satient creatures in the universe.

We are only supposing that we or the only?

We are arrogantly assuming we must have been the first?

Just on the foundation of probability, that is a naive and narcissitic view.

However, having said all that, I think it a bit preposterous that we must inject the possibilty that our celestial interlopers were so bold as to interfere with our progress, both in technical and biological terms.

Have we been visited, Damm likely
Have we been geneticaly engineered? Not likely
Have we been enlightened?

Seems a rather silly excercise without some recognition allowed. I say no.

It would seem far more likely that we are perhaps a second generation of civilized life on the planet. And much of the "evidence" we see in structures and ancient art is a carryover of that time.
 

pirate_girl

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Well tell Lia to take care of herself until she decides to return!
I did.
I don't think she fancies coming back anytime soon.
:neutral:
Why, I don't really know- but she knows I/we love her.
She has so much more to add here.
Lia.. please come back to the forums if you read this.
 

Lia

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I'm sorry about the poor quality and size of some of the type guys; not my fault. Hope it doesn't mar anyone's interest in the story tho... :smile:

A gigantic object the size of a planet has appeared on astronomers' screens lurking near Mercury, with UFO hunters around the world wondering whether it’s an alien ship.


The object appears from nowhere in a sequence of images of a coronal ejection from the Sun, taken by a Nasa telescope.
As the flare races past Mercury, a huge round object appears next to it – but Nasa scientists insist that the object is merely a result of the way the images are processed.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2071099/Is-alien-spacecraft-parked-Mercury.html#ixzz1g4qfhB7n


However, experts say that there is no alien race hiding away in our solar system.

Really? And, they are experts on Alien Life? Which Alien Life? Can we see their evidence, sources, research files?

Nah… I thought not.


‘It’s imaging processing that they haven’t got their heads around. No way could it be an alien spaceship the size of Mercury because Mercury is the size of our moon and we would know about it.’



Of course you would, and, you’d tell us all about it, wouldn’t you.

Here’s the you-tube video:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6X96xI1gLdQ&feature=player_embedded"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6X96xI1gLdQ&feature=player_embedded[/ame]
 

fogtender

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That was very interesting, you can clearly see the hot gases engulfing something that wasn't visible until it passed and then lit it up like a flare.

We think were are pretty hot stuff having a "Stealth" plane, that is invisible to radar (as we know it) and to have "something" that can go invisible to light as we know it makes them a lot farther ahead than we can imagine. Course hiding behind a planet that is pretty much a fireball 24/7 is even more amazing, but that would be some kind of normal event there!

Very good find! Thanks Lia!
 
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