"Castle Doctrine" vetoed in MN

[Melensdad]

Minnesota refuses to go with the majority rule in the USA.

The misnamed "Castle Doctrine" legislation was vetoed by the Governor yesterday. This legislation would have removed Minnesota's duty to retreat requirement before deadly force may be applied. So if you are attacked in your home in MN, you must run away instead of defend yourself.

Governor vetoes expansion of use of deadly force | Duluth News Tribune | Duluth, Minnesota (http://www.duluthnewstribune.com/event/article/id/224830/)

[TiredRetired]

We are allowed to use force here if the perpetrator is in the house. No silly shit like shooting through the outside walls or doors. Gotta wait for em to bust the door down or send the Rottweillers around from the back of the house to chew their legs off. I like the second option better. :yum:

[Supportcastledoctorine]

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[TiredRetired]

Get a couple of big dogs to protect your family and property. You won't be able to shoot any perpetrator anyway unless he is white. Well, yes you can, but you will be the one in jail not him. Rotties will chew legs off and they never come back. :yum:

[muleman]

Get a couple of big dogs to protect your family and property. You won't be able to shoot any perpetrator anyway unless he is white.
Why not? You just have to be prepared.:biggrin:

[squerly]

Minnesota refuses to go with the majority rule in the USA.

The misnamed "Castle Doctrine" legislation was vetoed by the Governor yesterday. This legislation would have removed Minnesota's duty to retreat requirement before deadly force may be applied. So if you are attacked in your home in MN, you must run away instead of defend yourself.

Governor vetoes expansion of use of deadly force | Duluth News Tribune | Duluth, Minnesota (http://www.duluthnewstribune.com/event/article/id/224830/)

Let me guess, he's a democrat?

Edit: From waht I can see, it's the police that were complaining, saying (in essence) that if they come in your house you might shoot them and that would increase the danger of the police coming in your house.

[thcri]

Let me guess, he's a democrat?

Yes he is.

Edit: From waht I can see, it's the police that were complaining, saying (in essence) that if they come in your house you might shoot them and that would increase the danger of the police coming in your house.

I don't know why they would say that. By the time they get there it is all over with.

[TiredRetired]

You will find by and large that most Police Chiefs are not for this at all, not crazy about conceal carry either. A lot of them feel only they should be carrying. Sorry for being blunt, but really, when was the last time a cop was around when you needed one. Just the way it works.

[Melensdad]

Tired. . . I agree with you. I know quite a few officers and there is a big difference between what a rank & file police officer thinks and what a Chief thinks. The Chiefs are typically political hacks, not all of them, but most of them. Rank & file officers who actually work the streets for a living seem to support citizen carry.

[Danang Sailor]

Let me guess, he's a democrat?

Edit: From waht I can see, it's the police that were complaining, saying (in essence) that if they come in your house you might shoot them and that would increase the danger of the police coming in your house.

Around the country, chiefs of police are the only ones in the LEO community that are overwhelmingly against armed
citizens and Castle Doctrine. :ermm: The way the above was explained to me, their fear has nothing to do with responding
to a 911 call from a homeowner; it has to do with them executing "no knock" warrants and drawing fire ... especially
if they kick down the door at a wrong address!:hammer:

If more legislators understood this, we'd have less problems with political appointees being treated as if they really knew
what the hell they're talking about! :whistling::brows:

[TiredRetired]

So in essence, they screw up and beat down the wrong door and get their asses shot at, at 3 in the morning, they want to be able to make it your fault. Now I understand.

[squerly]

The way the above was explained to me, their fear has nothing to do with responding
to a 911 call from a homeowner; it has to do with them executing "no knock" warrants and drawing fire ... especially
if they kick down the door at a wrong address!Yep, same here, that's what I heard too. At the same time, they were busy passing a law that made it illegal for you (the homeowner or resident) to resist. The "logic" was that if you resist there is a greater chance someone will get hurt.

So, if the law kicks down your door at 2:00 in the AM, lay quietly in your bed and wait for them to tell you when you may rise. Otherwise you will be guilty of resisting and will go to jail.

[Catavenger]

https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/?id=609.065 That kind of makes it sound like they already have some sort of "Castle Doctrine," does'nt it?