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Greatest I am
09-12-2011, 02:15 PM
Would a moral God step up to his responsibilities?

God cannot do miracles. If he could, he would.

From God’s POV, all here must be perfect. He began in perfection and would not back slide to anything less. That’s scripture. It is to us to see things as he does.

From mankind’s POV, all here is not perfection. This contrary and wrong POV is promoted by religion and is generally accepted to some degree by most people. I tend to agree with God even as most do not.

From a moral stand point, most will agree, that if one sees a wrong that they can right; they will do the right thing and right the wrong. This is the right thing to do.

The fact that there are preventable human evil acts being perpetrated by mankind, supposedly created by God, and he does not act, means that a moral God does not exist.

A moral God takes responsibility and God is not stepping up. A moral God would. If he could that is. Just as all of us would. We are in his image and know that stepping up is a good idea.

Perhaps God is not the miracles working super God. You know the one. The one that man has created to hold all of his hopes and wishes, dreams and desires, loves, ---- and hates ---, and although never seen in any real way, --- believers will kill for Him. Insanity.

If God does exist, and is not moral, then what good is he to mankind or you?
Would you want life without morals?

No wonder then that Eve, the first to be as God/human, ----yes there is a difference, ---- had the wisdom to have adam/mankind, eat of it. What a wonderful myth.

Believers who follow a God without morals, Bible God, should question why they do.
God has a basis in reality but certainly not like the God without morals that has somehow been molded by what was initially, a rather beautiful ideas. The Bible.

To think and act God like, is to ----- do unto others.
If God creates man, then it should be for a best end. Not an evil end like hell. Fact is, many millions die daily of easily preventable cause. Allowed to by a miracle working God who just does not step up.

The fact that God, who by definition, would have the attribute of taking responsibility, as any good entity would, proves beyond any doubt that a moral miracle working God cannot exists.


And if there is a miracle working God, mankind should give him a thumbs down for his lack of morals.

Can a moral God exist?
Is it moral for God, who wants relevance to mankind, to not step up?
As a creator God does he have any responsibility to what he creates?

Regards
DL

SShepherd
09-12-2011, 02:31 PM
what are you blaiming God for, that's happened to you that's made you so full of hate?

Dargo
09-12-2011, 03:28 PM
Can a moral God exist?
Is it moral for God, who wants relevance to mankind, to not step up?
As a creator God does he have any responsibility to what he creates?

Regards
DL

You know, this really pisses me off. I live my life as morally as possible and do my absolute best to set an example for my 5 children. I teach them right from wrong, what is the proper way to handle situations and all of the other lessons in life that I feel they will need to be a productive and successful member of society.

All of this takes not only work, but a hell of a lot of money! How in the hell can anyone justify a moral God who lets people live off my hard work, leach off the government and procreate like rabbits just to make more money. These people have kids who are raised by street thugs and our prison system. Still, as immoral and wrong as this is, God has allowed this to go on for generations!! How in the hell can I tell my kids that it's right for me to go out and bust my ass every day for what we have when 47% of the people in my city don't even pay for their own kid's school books, breakfasts or lunches. On top of that, they get free housing, free food for the entire family, free public transportation and have a larger big screen TV than I have and far more channels from which to chose!

If there is a God, what kind of message is he trying to send me?! I'm a dumbass for working myself into the ground and worrying about paying bills? Is that my message??

Big Dog
09-12-2011, 03:33 PM
Would a moral God step up to his responsibilities?

Regards
DL


You got beat up bunches when you were a kid, didn't you. Probably from all them times you was getting your ass kicked those "please God" you was screaming didn't work.

It is not worth listening to any self proclaimed "greatest", action speaks louder than hollow words!

Greatest I am
09-12-2011, 06:22 PM
what are you blaiming God for, that's happened to you that's made you so full of hate?

Try speaking to the issues of the O P.
I know. Too complicated for you.

Regards
DL

Greatest I am
09-12-2011, 06:26 PM
You know, this really pisses me off. I live my life as morally as possible and do my absolute best to set an example for my 5 children. I teach them right from wrong, what is the proper way to handle situations and all of the other lessons in life that I feel they will need to be a productive and successful member of society.

All of this takes not only work, but a hell of a lot of money! How in the hell can anyone justify a moral God who lets people live off my hard work, leach off the government and procreate like rabbits just to make more money. These people have kids who are raised by street thugs and our prison system. Still, as immoral and wrong as this is, God has allowed this to go on for generations!! How in the hell can I tell my kids that it's right for me to go out and bust my ass every day for what we have when 47% of the people in my city don't even pay for their own kid's school books, breakfasts or lunches. On top of that, they get free housing, free food for the entire family, free public transportation and have a larger big screen TV than I have and far more channels from which to chose!

If there is a God, what kind of message is he trying to send me?! I'm a dumbass for working myself into the ground and worrying about paying bills? Is that my message??

What can I say. I too have raised 4 children and any taxes I paid was, I hope, for the security of all of us.

If we do not give, they will take. I don't think you would like that either.

Regards
DL

SShepherd
09-12-2011, 06:41 PM
Try speaking to the issues of the O P.
I know. Too complicated for you.

Regards
DL
obviously it's too complicated for you to not answer a direct question without insulting.

What's wrong, did I hit a nerve?

Catavenger
09-12-2011, 08:33 PM
It is not worth listening to any self proclaimed "greatest", action speaks louder than hollow words! Amen to that!

SShepherd
09-12-2011, 08:43 PM
Amen to that!

ya, it's starting to sound like alot of boohoo..

Greatest I am
09-14-2011, 03:14 PM
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people. Eleanor Roosevelt (http://www.forumsforums.com/quotes/quotes/e/eleanorroo385439.html)

Regards
DL

SShepherd
09-14-2011, 03:47 PM
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people. Eleanor Roosevelt (http://www.forumsforums.com/quotes/quotes/e/eleanorroo385439.html)

Regards
DL
which is exactly what you do when you think you're being witty by insulting anyone who disagrees or questions you:glare:

Greatest I am
09-14-2011, 08:59 PM
which is exactly what you do when you think you're being witty by insulting anyone who disagrees or questions you:glare:

Still about me.

Regards
DL

mla2ofus
09-14-2011, 09:34 PM
Well, your username certainly tells about the condition of your ego, Greatassthatiam!!
Mike

Greatest I am
09-14-2011, 10:08 PM
Well, your username certainly tells about the condition of your ego, Greatassthatiam!!
Mike

You are off base on that one.
I do have a healthy ego but it has nothing to do with the name I chose for my avatar.
That is his name. Not mine.

What other name should I have chosen for an animal who conveys information. In Eden, God named the talking snake the wisest of all the animals. What else would you name it?

Regards
DL